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[Izo]

another website . Sports reporter ,Tim Brando that ND is in talks of becoming a full time member in the ACC ,football. This means 8-9 games with ACC plus another 3 games we yearly play against , USC ,Navy , Stanford . Can't give up those traditional games ,then a mid major game, like Miami of Ohio , we would be locked in for the next 20 years . Could no longer play either Michigan , Michigan State, Purdue , Northwestern. Plus could no longer schedule powers like Texas, Oklahoma ,TCU, Or some schools in the SEC like Georgia, perhaps an LSU, Tennessee .

Our situation is a little different than the ACC schools .Outside their conference schedule , most don't really play a traditional rival . Oops forgot that Florida State and Miami are committed to play SEC Florida , Georgia Tech plays Georgia ,but then again these schools can load up with 2 or 3 games against mid - majors like FIU ,etc . Notre Dame would not likely give up traditional rivals like USC ,Navy, Stanford , perhaps a Big 10 team

Repeating myself ,locked in to 11 games plus a mid-major . Some Domers would say ,being in the ACC or winning an ACC title would help us get into final 4 . Die- hard Independent Irish fans would say .just win our games and we would be in the final 4.

 

[scubastevefl]

What a boring schedule, way to become a regional school with zero scheduling flexibility.

 

[Howard Hall 74]

No! No! No!!! If Swarbrick is doing this what he is really admitting is that he F'd up the hiring of the Football HC and has no answer on how to fix the mess he created. We don't need a conference. Independence is extremely unique and we have the ability of our heritage to carry it off, or at least we use to, until Swarbrick committed one of the worst management decisions of anyone since White was AD last year - when he didn't fire the putz we have.

 

[Telx1]

Brando has been writing that ND football will join a conference for years now. He simply believes ND cannot remain independent and the ACC is just an obvious landing spot given the affiliation in all other sports. Nothing new here.

 

[Izo]

Since Kelly and ND haven't had a signature win since 2012 ,what is joining the ACC telling us about the state of the ND football program ? IDoes Swarbrick have the backing of the administration and Board of Trustees ? Maybe some alumni like the idea of the ACC , but I can't believe most die- hard fans want us in a conference . Wonder what the big bucks donors think.

 

[IrishInOntario]

If this was to happen in the near future, it would simply be for money. ND is spending a small fortune on facility upgrades. The only reason I could see them joining a conference in the current CFB landscape would be to tap further into ACC money.

ND is 1.5 years removed from being a serious playoff contender. They are 4 years removed from a national championship game appearance. People need to take a step back from the ledge. 2016 was a God awful year, but the program is moving in the right direction in many facets. If the on field play doesn't drastically improve as a result, a coaching change will be made.

 

[Izo]

With ND in the ACC , would this help get a bigger football TV deal for the ACC?

 

[Toby Smart]

Gentlemen, don't go knee deep into the rumor until it has been verified by a couple of other reliable sources. I consider this rumor and speculation until further notice.

 

[NyyorkerND]

When our TV football contract expires if ever then ND will join a conference until then don't waste time buying into silly speculation.

 

[melstew]

I would like to see it. The problem is nine conference games means you can't realistically play both Stanford and USC every year. And, with 8 team divisions you would have to play the same seven teams every year. With an eight game league schedule you have only one crossover game. But, playing in the championship game share would be a lot of fun.

 

[TOMMY_23]

No! No! No!!! If Swarbrick is doing this what he is really admitting is that he F'd up the hiring of the Football HC and has no answer on how to fix the mess he created. We don't need a conference. Independence is extremely unique and we have the ability of our heritage to carry it off, or at least we use to, until Swarbrick committed one of the worst management decisions of anyone since White was AD last year - when he didn't fire the putz we have.

I scratch my head still to this day thinking how is he the head coach? 2017 is going to get ugly folks.

 

[Bodizephax]

Since Kelly and ND haven't had a signature win since 2012 ,what is joining the ACC telling us about the state of the ND football program ? IDoes Swarbrick have the backing of the administration and Board of Trustees ? Maybe some alumni like the idea of the ACC , but I can't believe most die- hard fans want us in a conference . Wonder what the big bucks donors think.

What do you call the win against 13 and 1 Michigan State in 2013 ?

 

[TOMMY_23]

What do you call the win against 13 and 1 Michigan State in 2013 ?

I call it boring. I was at that game and the ND offense was ugly that day. It wasn't an impressive win and the officials helped out a bit.

 

[echowaker]

I scratch my head still to this day thinking how is he the head coach? 2017 is going to get ugly folks.

I expect no less than nine wins. I consider last season an anomaly.

 

[Bodizephax]

I scratch my head still to this day thinking how is he the head coach? 2017 is going to get ugly folks.

I can't wait until Trump deports you (Catapults you and your ilk over the Wall). He is a big ND fan and can appreciate a close win.

 

[NDskins]

Since Kelly and ND haven't had a signature win since 2012 ,what is joining the ACC telling us about the state of the ND football program ? IDoes Swarbrick have the backing of the administration and Board of Trustees ? Maybe some alumni like the idea of the ACC , but I can't believe most die- hard fans want us in a conference . Wonder what the big bucks donors think.

We won a game in 2012? Did we win the appeal?

 

[NDskins]

I call it boring. I was at that game and the ND offense was ugly that day. It wasn't an impressive win and the officials helped out a bit.

The Spartans called it a horrible screw job by the refs.

 

[Bodizephax]

Go back to east Lansing. The Michigan State secondary was mugging Corey Robinson all day. And why could your offense not score against our D ? Riddle me that !

 

[twalsh]

With ND in the ACC , would this help get a bigger football TV deal for the ACC?

Without a doubt. It's a game changer for the acc.

 

[twalsh]

Gentlemen, don't go knee deep into the rumor until it has been verified by a couple of other reliable sources. I consider this rumor and speculation until further notice.

Don't believe anything when it comes to ND football unless Swarbrick is standing at a podium announcing it.

 

[Nocalirish]

Morons say the same bs every year. You cant spell iNDepeNDent without ND. ND football will always be independent.

 

[South Bender]

Swarbrick this, Swarbrick that.......
Does anyone really believe JS would make a decision of this magnitude on his own??

C'mon people, use that squishy thing inside your skulls!!

 

[Classic Irish]

No! No! No!!! If Swarbrick is doing this what he is really admitting is that he F'd up the hiring of the Football HC and has no answer on how to fix the mess he created. We don't need a conference. Independence is extremely unique and we have the ability of our heritage to carry it off, or at least we use to, until Swarbrick committed one of the worst management decisions of anyone since White was AD last year - when he didn't fire the putz we have.

"Our heritage"? I didn't realize that Indiana had a football heritage.

 

[Kelso86]

Before everyone starts getting their panties in a twist, Tim Brando has been spouting this for years now -- until the school comes out and addresses it, to me this is a dead issue.

Nothing to worry about now.

 

[Kelso86]

Swarbrick this, Swarbrick that.......
Does anyone really believe JS would make a decision of this magnitude on his own??

C'mon people, use that squishy thing inside your skulls!!

Are you suggesting that people use "common sense" ? LOL

 

[mirer03]

There is also talk that the ACC would take Navy as a 16th school. That would fix the scheduling issues. Still have Stanford, USC, and another game to rotate while keeping Navy. This is rehashed every year but there is no movement.

 

[pikehead]

another website . Sports reporter ,Tim Brando that ND is in talks of becoming a full time member in the ACC ,football. This means 8-9 games with ACC plus another 3 games we yearly play against , USC ,Navy , Stanford . Can't give up those traditional games ,then a mid major game, like Miami of Ohio , we would be locked in for the next 20 years . Could no longer play either Michigan , Michigan State, Purdue , Northwestern. Plus could no longer schedule powers like Texas, Oklahoma ,TCU, Or some schools in the SEC like Georgia, perhaps
Our situation is a little different than the ACC schools .Outside their conference schedule , most don't really play a traditional rivTal . Oops forgot that Florida State and Miami are committed to play SEC Florida , Georgia Tech plays Georgia ,but then again these schools can load up with 2 or 3 games against mid - majors like FIU ,etc . Notre Dame would not likely give up traditional rivals like USC ,Navy, Stanford , perhaps a Big 10 team

Repeating myself ,locked in to 11 games plus a mid-major . Some Domers would say ,being in the ACC or winning an ACC title would help us get into final 4 . Die- hard Independent Irish fans would say .just win our games and we would be in the final 4.

That is a long way away..I will have more info on this later..I discussed this with NDSCM at lunch and she agrees...

 

[twalsh]

There is also talk that the ACC would take Navy as a 16th school. That would fix the scheduling issues. Still have Stanford, USC, and another game to rotate while keeping Navy. This is rehashed every year but there is no movement.

There's not likely to be any movement until there's another round of conference flip flops, especially if it points to 16 team superconferences being created. That will be whats ends us to the ACC as a full member.

 

[topdecktiger]

Gentlemen, don't go knee deep into the rumor until it has been verified by a couple of other reliable sources. I consider this rumor and speculation until further notice.

Tim Brando is a decent source. He also correctly predicted the formation of the ACC network last year.

However, I think a lot of people are taking Brando's comments out of context. I don't think Brando was claiming a move was imminent. I think was is really going on is that Notre Dame and the ACC are simply coming up with a contingency plan, should the landscape of college football change somehow in the future. It's a smart thing for both sides to plan ahead for possible scenarios.

With ND in the ACC , would this help get a bigger football TV deal for the ACC?

The ACC's TV contract would be reopened and renegotiated. Doesn't necessarily mean the deal would get bigger, but most likely it would.

I would like to see it. The problem is nine conference games means you can't realistically play both Stanford and USC every year. And, with 8 team divisions you would have to play the same seven teams every year. With an eight game league schedule you have only one crossover game. But, playing in the championship game share would be a lot of fun.

If the conference ever expanded to 16, the divisions would not remain static. They would split up the teams into 4 groups, and rotate those groups between the 2 divisions on a set schedule. The crossover game would essentially be irrelevant, other than evening out the schedule to 8 games.

 

[NyyorkerND]

Tim Brando is a decent source. He also correctly predicted the formation of the ACC network last year.

However, I think a lot of people are taking Brando's comments out of context. I don't think Brando was claiming a move was imminent. I think was is really going on is that Notre Dame and the ACC are simply coming up with a contingency plan, should the landscape of college football change somehow in the future. It's a smart thing for both sides to plan ahead for possible scenarios.



The ACC's TV contract would be reopened and renegotiated. Doesn't necessarily mean the deal would get bigger, but most likely it would.


If the conference ever expanded to 16, the divisions would not remain static. They would split up the teams into 4 groups, and rotate those groups between the 2 divisions on a set schedule. The crossover game would essentially be irrelevant, other than evening out the schedule to 8 games.

ND has a TV contract until 2025 paying them 15 million annually, not to mention if they make a BCS playoff game all the money goes to them. Fiscally it makes no sense to join a conference for football. They only way it works is if you guarantee the program at least what NBC will pay them and more revenue than any other team in the conference from teams making the BCS playoff or championship game in that conference. The job of the president of thr University is to make the school more money not lose money. So again moot point.

 

[twalsh]

ND has a TV contract until 2025 paying them 15 million annually, not to mention if they make a BCS playoff game all the money goes to them. Fiscally it makes no sense to join a conference for football. They only way it works is if you guarantee the program at least what NBC will pay them and more revenue than any other team in the conference from teams making the BCS playoff or championship game in that conference. The job of the president of thr University is to make the school more money not lose money. So again moot point.

That would mean it was Jenkins' job to put us in the Big Ten a few years ago. That's where the most money was.

 

[topdecktiger]

ND has a TV contract until 2025 paying them 15 million annually, not to mention if they make a BCS playoff game all the money goes to them. Fiscally it makes no sense to join a conference for football. They only way it works is if you guarantee the program at least what NBC will pay them and more revenue than any other team in the conference from teams making the BCS playoff or championship game in that conference. The job of the president of thr University is to make the school more money not lose money. So again moot point.

The ACC's TV contract pays out $20 million per school as it stands.

The playoff games only pay out $6 million each. The title game has no payout.

The ACC also gets $25 million from the Orange Bowl (except in playoff years). Notre Dame has no major bowl guarantee.

 

[ZORO50]

To stay an independent which is my preference three things have to happen
1) Win big enough-

2) We can't be screwed out of a playoff spot within the current format.
If in 2015- if we beat Stanford and did not make the playoffs then that would have become a HUGE problem. I really think we would have been left out. That would have been a mess for the people that want to keep independence like myself.

3) if the format stays with 4 teams with 5 power conference teams.
If it expands to 6,8 teams- whatever the number is then we stay independent forever.

As a huge college football fan- I do not want the regular season devalued so I kind of like 4 teams in the playoff but I want ND independence.

I really hope thinks work out both ways.

 

[57Patrick]

I agree with everything Zoro stated except I would prefer an 8 game playoff. Take the winner of the power 5's and the next three highest ranked teams. Let the committee pick the seeds in the playoff. ND remains independent and therefore unique/special. Go Irish!!