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Avery Johnson is very raw in his passing. Tyler Buchner has been groomed at QB for years and his IQ and anticipation is elite. Nothing about them is the same other than they can both run and extend plays.

False. Their composite rankings are similar, actually nearly identical. The ‘23 class is superior at QB to TB’s class. He also out performed TB by a mile at the camps. He’s likely faster and shiftier too. I’d say his upside is the same or higher that TB.
 
What?? So you're disagreeing with me? You gotta be the guy on this board who's the most full of himself and even a bit narcissistic when it comes to more advanced football knowledge/savvy, which is implied that you posses. Which I'm guessing in actual substance is about zero, as a practical matter. With the occasional semi-comprehensible word salad, when you're laboring to insist on some sort of tactical dynamic that ND's fate is going to be bound up in.

In any case, I like Tyler Buchner a lot, he's obviously a bright kid, the kind who'd probably be fine at ND even if he wasn't a football player. You certainly couldn't find someone who fits the ND profile any better. He seems like a very confident athlete, and I for one feel like I would have no special reason to suspect that he's might struggle as a passer as a full-time starter, which was something of the obsession du jour over the summer amongst the sweaty masses. And so I doubted myself a little. Now that the season's actually upon us, it's time to circle the wagons, and now no one's talking about TB sucking anymore.

The main takeaway is that your typical ND fan really doesn't know anything about anything. There'd be no reason to be impressed or intimidated or intrigued by anything they have to say, especially when it comes to the football team. Other than the most mainstream layman's conventional wisdom that's available to anyone. Sometimes the fans want to indulge in a particular opinion about whatever it is. And then later they'll contradict themselves for no other reason than the date on the calendar.

Anyway, I still think Avery Johnson ought to just stick with K-State. But if he does flip to ND that would be cool too. But I totally prefer Minchey....

Disagree. Avery Johnson could be an NFL receiver if coached under Stuckey if it doesn’t work out at QB. He’s likely not an NFL starting QB imo. He has more upside at WR than Ronan Hanafin.
 
Disagree. Avery Johnson could be an NFL receiver if coached under Stuckey if it doesn’t work out at QB. He’s likely not an NFL starting QB imo. He has more upside at WR than Ronan Hanafin.
Okay man sounds good! I'm gonna find this kid on twitter and let him on on the secret, he needs to be playing WR! He'll come to ND and play for Chansi Stuckey and switch to WR. Yeeee haw!!!!
 
Okay man sounds good! I'm gonna find this kid on twitter and let him on on the secret, he needs to be playing WR! He'll come to ND and play for Chansi Stuckey and switch to WR. Yeeee haw!!!!

Nobody said that. It’s just a plan b. His upside for nfl is greater at ND.
 
He’s a manning. He will likely end up the best of all of them when he gets to the NFL. I’d put my money on Arch Manning over anyone else by a mile. 4 years from now I wouldn’t be surprised if the Dante Moore’s were huge busts. Arch I’d be shocked. He has all the right supports to slowly become an NFL starter. He’s in it for the right reasons. He’s confident and has the best structural supports and motivators one could imagine. He could become his uncles without a doubt.
He plays against the worst competition of all of the big name qb's in his class and puts up average high school qb numbers. A super star player should dominate the level of competition he faces and he is just ok.
 
Todd Marinovich and Ryan Leaf come to mind. While they played in the NFL....the hype and expectations for both was off the charts.
 
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