Pre Season College Football Rankings

[Izo]

Looking at the top 25 2014 pre season rankings , most of the experts are on target .They were a few exceptions .Oklahoma always seem to be ranked higher than they should be and a few teams like TCU surprise . South Carolina didn't do as well . This 2015 year , some of the teams ranked in the top 10 will fall and some teams in the 11-25 will move into top 10 .Yes there are a few that we didn't expect ,will move into top 25 . But overall in college basketball ,baseball ,football .it is pretty predictable that the National Champion will come from these lists . The power conferences

UConn a few years ago ,basketball champs ,doesn't happen that often.


ND should have a great season .we are definitely more talented than every team we play . Exceptions ,Clemson ,USC ,but they are beatable . This season We should be putting teams away early .Our running game should be superior with the OL .Zaire is a better break away threat than Golson.And Folston is a very underrated back .defense still a concern ?

I'm posting nothing new here ,only my frustrations if we don't live up to the high expectations that Domers expect from this year's team. the offensive talent with Folston ,Zaire,Procise ,Fuller,Robinson, Carlisle ,etc and the very good offensive line led by All American R. Stanley, Martin,Elmer,Nelson McGlinchey ,Bars . then there is the defensive line with Day ,Rochell ,Jones, Trumbetti, Okwara,Matuska,Hayes,Cage ,Tillery?, All American linebacker in J.Smith , also a tough Schmitt and then there are the defensive backs , Russell ,Redfield ,Shumate ,Farley .Luke ,Butler .

My Question to Die-Hard Domers : Is this the most talented team in Kelly's tenure ?

 

[perseverare]

just to clarify: you just said ND had more talent on it's roster than USC?

 

[Epictitus]

Top to bottom, including experience in the equation, Notre Dame is more talented than USC.

Yes, this is Kelly's most talented team and barring injuries or unexpected issues, ND should be in the Final Four.

 

[Java65]

I think the 2012 team was more talented; Z. Martin and Watt were a phenomenal tandem. Theo, Wood and GAIII at RB. Eifert and TJ were great receivers.

On defense the most decorated CFP in history. KAP, Tuitt, Kona, Nix. Carlo on the inside with Manti and Shembo outside.

IMO, the 3 keys this year will be; 1) QB play. QB is everything in this offense and ND needs much improved play. 2) Injuries at S and DL. Paper thin at both of these positions so injuries here could kill ND. 3) pass rush. Somehow ND needs to find a way to put pressure on the QB without always having to blitz.

 

[perseverare]

hope we don't have to hear the ole injury excuse again!

 

[continually35forever]

Injuries are a reason not an excuse nit wit

BTW WTF would you know about injuries or competition ? You sit on a message board all day passing negative judgement on positive posters -- 23,174 posts -- you by definition are a boorish fool

QQ to all who feel injuries are an excuse not a reason --

No injuries - ND's record ???

Zaire - Folston - Fuller get hurt -- ND's record ??

 

[Java65]

There isn't a team in America that will go the entire season without significant injuries. It happens to 100% of the teams every year. If you have depth at those positions where you sustain injuries you will be fine, if you don't you'll lose some games.

So injuries are an excuse, not a reason you lose games. Now that said I have never heard Kelly use injuries as a reason we lost games, that mostly comes from others.

 

[perseverare]

There isn't a team in America that will go the entire season without significant injuries. It happens to 100% of the teams every year. If you have depth at those positions where you sustain injuries you will be fine, if you don't you'll lose some games.

So injuries are an excuse, not a reason you lose games. Now that said I have never heard Kelly use injuries as a reason we lost games, that mostly comes from others.

well, Kelly cannot be using it in his 6th year; like a manager in pvt biz, he is the one in the decision role as to the composition of his staff. You expect at this point that depth is problem solved.

 

[Pennick4]

well, Kelly cannot be using it in his 6th year; like a manager in pvt biz, he is the one in the decision role as to the composition of his staff. You expect at this point that depth is problem solved.

Not True(along with most of your posts). This is college football where you have to develop depth each year because of graduations, transfers, suspensions. Your a "star gazer" so you don't understand player development.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Pennick-

You don't think a coach in year six at a program should have handle on player development enough that depth isn't a concern when the team lost minimal draft picks the year prior?

 

[Pennick4]

There isn't one college coach that is happy with his depth at this time of the year. Kids graduate every year and ND doesn't do JUCO's so developing depth is always a work in progress.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

I think its relative... there is difference between be excited about your depth and viewing your depth as a weakness

 

[Pennick4]

I think its relative... there is difference between be excited about your depth and viewing your depth as a weakness

It is apparent that you think this team lacks depth where I am excited about the depth.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

That's not true... I am not even asking about "this team." I am talking about any team that has had the same general system in place for over 6 years should not be viewing the depth of the team as a weakness going in to the season or trying to make a legitimate argument that the depth of the team is something preventing it from succeeding.

 

[perseverare]

It is apparent that you think this team lacks depth where I am excited about the depth.

Pennick your devoid of credibility.

Kelly is the decision maker, he is responsible for the team makeup; if you keep making the same excuses then you will keep making the same excuses. And that applies to any undertaking.

 

[Pennick4]

Can't agree with your assumption. Every team in college loses some of its best and experienced players each and every year. Therefore you are going to have to play kids with little experience in areas.

 

[Bodizephax]

Pennick you devoid of credibility.

Kelly is the decision maker, he is responsible for the team makeup; if you keep making the same excuses then you will keep making the same excuses. And that applies to any undertaking.

Your damn right Kelly is responsible for the team makeup. That is why a lot of experts have the Irish ranked high this year. Because Coach Kelly did a great job in 2012 (12 and 0 regular season record) and because (mostly) of that he pulled in a top 5 recruiting class. Now the players in that class are juniors and ready to shine.
Perse lacks credibility because he never gives Kelly any credit. He just gets on posters for giving him too much credit. He would be more credible if he was more even handed in his criticism of Kelly.

 

[Pennick4]

Pennick you devoid of credibility.

Kelly is the decision maker, he is responsible for the team makeup; if you keep making the same excuses then you will keep making the same excuses. And that applies to any undertaking.

I Lack credibility?. You haven't given Kelly credit for anything. You haven't posted anything positive in your 30,000 posts. This team has very good depth.
Zach Martin should be moved to guard.
Coach Sanford was hired by Swarbrick and is the heir apparent to BK(while he has 1 whole year as an OC)
James O should be moved to running back.
Recruiting is going to hell because Tony A. is leaving.
Need I go on. I will spare you anymore.

 

[continually35forever]

Pennick -- bravo

BTW anyone who tries to engage in a credible discussion re ND football w purse 24 k is a bigger asshole than he is

per purse -- " Stanford reloads ND rebuilds " purse you are a complete DOUCHE BAG

Btw you referenced pri biz -- what the fu-- would you know about gainful employement or running a business

 

[Java65]

Now I remember why I stopped coming to this site. Worst run board anywhere and if I were going to pay to join an ND community again it certainly wouldn't be this one based on how this site is moderated. Back to the other ND sites, this one is a cesspool.

 

[perseverare]

^ java
I try to follow you on the other site

 

[Java65]

^ java
I try to follow you on the other site

What's your name on that site? I try to use the same name everywhere. The worst part is, this site is more active and there are some great people here... there is just no moderator so 90% of the posts are people attacking one another.

 

[perseverare]

I have not created an ID over there - for years - I read the board pretty regularly.

Ara is also over there. Probably a lot of our regs in addition. The problem is that regardless of the HC there will always be those aboard to shill for him and to stiffle dialog. It gets worse when there are no Mods.
But try putting everyone except the posters your read regularly on ignore; I read only about 20% of the posters here, and with the ignore feature as more enhanced the nut jobs and shills are virtually none exhistant.

Create your own small fan room.

 

[Pennick4]

I have not created an ID over there - for years - I read the board pretty regularly.

Ara is also over there. Probably a lot of our regs in addition. The problem is that regardless of the HC there will always be those aboard to shill for him and to stiffle dialog. It gets worse when there are no Mods.
But try putting everyone except the posters your read regularly on ignore; I read only about 20% of the posters here, and with the ignore feature as more enhanced the nut jobs and shills are virtually none exhistant.

Create your own small fan room.

Don't let the door hit you in the backside. Your act is tired.

 

[Bodizephax]

Don't let the door hit you in the backside. Your act is tired.

I agree with Pennick. This place would be much more civil without Purse's Passive aggressive BS.