An estimated 5.7 million of them voted in 2008.
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An estimated 5.7 million of them voted in 2008.
"The only ones who seem not to know that the left has a massive, taxpayer-funded radio network of 700 affiliates are the liberals trying to sell investors on their own private-sector talk-radio network"
"NPR's own official ombudsman, Jeffrey Dvorkin, admitted a liberal bias in NPR's talk programming."
Sensationalistic? These stories are popping up almost weekly.
Thank you for showing your ignorance though. Because Fox News is reporting a factual story it isn't relevant? It's out there, it's the truth. It makes no difference who reports it. You are dumber than I first thought. Now get back to your fake news channel- CNN.
BTW, Liberals are all in lockstep. You're all the same, but that was a nice dodge. We all know you support illegal immigration.
You're a troll and you know it. Keep coming at me. I enjoy making you my b!tch.
Coming from the person who doesn't know what a paragraph is and "likes" a previous post littered with grammatical errors.
You must feel like a chump going after a veteran on this board.
To be fair brother my veteran status doesn't make me immune from any form of discussion.
Why are you deflecting from my point that you think writing "Liberal" in NPR failed to form an accurate acronym?
It's hilarious that you attempted to talk grammar smack when your post above began with an incomplete sentence.
Why would a Trump supporter be uptight about going after a veteran? Were you angry when he ridiculed John McCain for being captured and forced to spend five years in the Hanoi Hilton?
USA stands for Freedom correct?
You notice there's no F in USA yet it still stands for freedom
I hope this clears this up for you
No clearing up is necessary. The only F to be awarded is a grade to you for not understanding how to create an acronym.
Where do you think that 5.7 million number comes from? Would you believe that it is based on the responses of five people? Not 5,000, or 500, or even 50 . . . but five. The authors of the study took those five responses and extrapolated it into an estimate of 5.7 million illegals having voted.
We would have to invent a new name for that level of junk science.
http://www.snopes.com/illegal-immigrants-2008-election/
There are approximately between 12 to 35 million undocumented people in this country are you telling me you do not believe a quarter them cast the vote? If not what percentage do you believe it is
If you are honestly contending that "Liberal" should be ramrodded into NPR as an anagram, at least change your handle to Deadirishdoggerelist.
Here's a nice and accurate creation of an anagram to help you out:
MAGA = Moron Advocating Gruesome Agenda
I have no idea, although given the precarious circumstances most illegals live in, I doubt that many would risk arrest and deportation over a vote.
Anyway, if conservatives want to argue that illegals are voting they need to get off their asses and come up with the evidence for it. So far all they have is zilch.
Yes, they should do it. Perhaps appoint an independent counsel to conduct an investigation. The Democrats could challenge the forthrightness of the counsel by alluding to his having given fundraising contributions to Republican candidates. What a neat bizarro world that would be.
My wife is from Tarzana and Reseda and I lived in San Diego/Yorba Linda for 12.
The illegals there and then surely were not living in perilous circumstances.
I don't know if the illegals actually do live in perilous circumstances they flaunt themselves publicly all the time. They do not assimilate.
The ones from Mexico wrap themselves around and a Mexican flag and seem to hold their loyalty to a country they fled.
Much like black live matters President Obama embolden them which helps get president Trump elected.
Jeff Sessions said he was working on this we will see, but perilous circumstances is a big stretch
Is the American flag that you undoubtedly have flying over your house now at half mast in mourning over Joe Arpaio being convicted of criminal contempt?
You are absolutely correct I do have an American flag flying over my house.
No it's not flying at half mast. I also have no problem with criminals being punished.
That goes for him and the convicts he had dress up in pink
Sal, I agree with this; and yes, the right can't get out of their own way and accept a path to legalization without citizenship, as anything smelling of amnesty has been turned into an attack issue. George W had this right, but the right killed it; and Rubio probably lost the nomination for his efforts to provide a path to legalization for those already here. This is a great example of where reasonable men and women on both sides of the aisle should be able to agree and pass comprehensive immigration reform, and instead it's a career killer.
DIP, he's a bit more conservative and hawkish than I am, but I voted for him in this past election and would welcome the chance to do so again. He's a smart serious thinker with a moral compass.
I've said this before but last year I took 6 months off work and did volunteer work/campaign for him.
To me the best choice out of the 16
You're an idiot if you think the MS-13's from Mexico are any different the the ones from Texas or California. The claim that stopping illegal immigration is going to decrease cartel/gang violence is a false promise on a non-unique harm. MS-13 and other cartels are going to exist in the USA no matter the immigration policy, especially as long as the war on drugs is what it is. Go back to trolling the board with stupid posts about FSU and the ACC
Wow, some interesting numbers being thrown around. The best estimated numbers of illegal aliens in the US range between 11 - 13 million. Pew research, the US Office for immigration affairs, the WSJ, et al... use a number within this range. As for voting, illegal immigrants avoid the government like the plague, and I don't know of any credible evidence that shows any significant fraudulent voting by illegals. This has always been a phony issue in my opinion. If Republicans embraced a path to legalization, they may find a much higher level of support among Latino citizens than they've enjoyed in decades.
Its an Old Dominion study that came out in 2014. It has been disputed/debunked a ton for methodology and bad reasoning but it keeps getting put out there by the right. It doesn't even make sense. In Texas this past election the number of instances reported voter fraud was less then 10 and two of the most egregious instances were people voting republican. Complete red herring. Doesn't address why Republican judges are throwing out these voter ID laws and ignores the economic implications mass deportation would have on the American economy.
Several Right wing snowbirds I know vote both in Illinois and Florida, and brag about it. They justify it saying they own property in both states and are entitled to protect their investment. And, of course they claim the Democrats do it too, so that makes it okay. They make small changes in how they register, to avoid obvious duplication. Are they the tip of an iceberg of fraudulent voters?
I live in Florida and my parents are snowbirds, this is impossible. At best they can cast an absentee ballot.
I don't think there is any fraudulent voting iceberg under the surface. Yes, there are lots of colorful instances where dead people or felons vote, and probably where some activist has manipulated things where illegals have voted, etc... while there may be tens of thousands of such incidents, they are insignificant and of no impact on the outcome of our elections. I thought Trump was stupid to suggest otherwise and to refuse to say whether he would accept the election results leading up to the election, and I think Hillary and the entire resist movement are shameful for their efforts to undermine the validity of the election. Sure Russia leaked all these e-mails, but no one has suggested the e-mails were fake! Just as Trump was rightfully criticized and damn near ostracized for his obscene bus comments about women, Hillary owns her e-mail scandal and the DNC owns their dirty tricks. Mueller needs to be thorough, but he also needs to move with some haste to put this crap behind us.
I wonder if these liberal minded folks that think they know it all and quote various academic studies, etc. have any hands on experiences in the ghetto?
When my boys were growing up I coached them in an inner city BB league. They played in some of the worst neighborhoods and conditions you can possibly imagine. We often heard gun shots on numerous occasions. Our team was all Hispanics (legals and illegals) and Blacks and my two white twins. After 2 years of fellowship with those boys and their mothers and entire families, including cookouts and slumber parties and all kinds of things we did to try to help the boys we had a pretty good understanding of life in the ghetto. It makes you wonder.
When my boys were growing up I coached them in an inner city BB league. They played in some of the worst neighborhoods and conditions you can possibly imagine. We often heard gun shots on numerous occasions. Our team was all Hispanics (legals and illegals) and Blacks and my two white twins. After 2 years of fellowship with those boys and their mothers and entire families, including cookouts and slumber parties and all kinds of things we did to try to help the boys we had a pretty good understanding of life in the ghetto. It makes you wonder.
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This story is a lie because CNN didn't report on it!
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/02/dreamer-accused-brutally-raping-woman-in-washington.html
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/02/dreamer-accused-brutally-raping-woman-in-washington.html
Why do you persist in making up lies about me? The other day, you said I supported illegal immigration and voter fraud. I defy you to find one post of mine expressing those views. Now you claim I'm stating that the story you posted is a lie. Where do you get that? I have no reason to doubt that it's true, just as you know that there are stories about U.S. citizens raping other U.S. citizens
Given that you are so uptight about rape, you'd better carry around a canister of Mace. Even paranoid rightwingers might be stalked.
To the high minded liberal thinking folks I say this:
- Go to the heart of inner city and get involved........really involved. I mean really involved.
- Learn to speak Spanish. And more importantly learn the language of the ghetto.
- Do some volunteer work with organizations like the Salvation Army, Good Will, the Police (PAL), churches, the local Pro teams that do some work in the inner city and/or start your own out reach organization.
- Yeah, you can take kids to the zoo and bar-b-Q's etc. but also invite some of those kids to come into your home, have a sleep over with your kids, cook some meals together in your kitchen and find out what's going on in their lives.
- Drive some of those kids to their homes and see where and how they live. Take them a bag of groceries or put together a good will box.
- Mingle with the families and find out what's going on. Find out who needs protection.
