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OT- The Tipping Point Blowing up in Libs Face

IRISHJD98 said:
I'm sure we have plenty in common. The truth is most Americans do.

I tend to avoid talking about politics here because, like most places on the internet, the discussions often reflect angry,divisive, and pointless rhetoric. For the most part, it comes of as a bunch of whining. I'm not really interested in that sort of exchange. Sometimes I find people having a reasonable exchange, and I'll chime in.

Plus, I think the board is better off when we're focused on fighting and whining over football and recruiting. When there's a lot of political talk going on, the political animosity spills over to other threads.

As far as my politics, I'm a lifelong Democrat that's frustrated with my party's priorities. We've turned into the party that looks like the Island of Misfit Toys instead of the champion of working men and women. I'm deeply troubled by the party's insistence that expanding access to abortion is key to freeing women from poverty rather, when aggressively enforcing equal pay and equal opportunity rights while creating jobs is what's needed. I'm a "clean up your own back yard first" guy, so I really don't have much to say about Republicans or their agenda. And I'm very active in party politics at a state and local level, so I direct my political concerns toward those that can bring about change within the party.

In a nutshell, that's why you don't hear me talk about politics much. I'm pissed off at my party, and I'd rather work at changing it than whine about it.
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In my youth my whole family was Democratic.
After my father got out of the military he got a job with the Postal Service and was very active in the Union.
He taught us to be involved in politics at the local level and how important that was but never told us which way to lean.
I do not remember Kennedy in my youth because I was very young when he died, but what I do remember is how upset my mother and father was about it. To this day my mother still upset about it.
The first President I voted for was Ronald Reagan. It was the first time I could vote and the economy under Jimmy Carter was terrible.
Since then I have voted for George W bush., Bill Clinton, Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and a hold my nose vote for Donald Trump.
Your comment about the Democratic Party being like the Island of Misfit Toys is parallel with the Republican Party..
Though the Republican party is in power it is fractured.
The older I get the more conservative I get and I suppose that's true with most people.
I have found myself to be more in common with the Freedom Caucus because Rand Paul is very influential on me.

I would have liked to have campaign for him but I didn't want my vote to be wasted and Hillary Clinton being a very strong contender, I campaign for Marco Rubio because I believed he had the best chance out of the 16.
Another reason I like the Freedom Caucus is there idea of limiting the federal government, but for the most part Republicans in Congress like big government just as Democrats to. I cannot stand Paul Ryan. I am on the fence about Mitch McConnell.

I know it seems like I'm a big Trump person but if you notice in my text forms I mostly counter the anti-trump stuff against people who allowed President Obama free reign.
It's hard to criticize one Madman when another one though more measured and calculated to havefree reign

You are correct when discussing politics it does bring out the worst in opposing opinions and my comment about President Obama being a mulatto as true as it was it was completely uncalled for and I realize that now.

I believe President Trump has some very good ideas the vehicle which he chooses to implement those ideas though drive me nuts.
I have no problem with the president not looking presidential but I am extremely uncomfortable with his manner he tweets.

You can be a street brawler but you can still have class about it.

So here we are.

I imagine there is going to be strong opposition to president Trump in the Republican Party this next election.

It'll be interesting to see who the Democrats roll out I was following Congressman Tim Ryan and like a lot of what he had to say until he supported Elizabeth Warren on the single-payer and to try to sell it as a job creator.
The only problem with that job creation is it is 100% funded by the taxpayer.

I hope you get feeling better everyday good conversation take care
 
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One of the problems today is that many do not recognize overarching values, such as those taught at ND. Without these support for ones cause is not limited by common courtesy or even a refrain from violence. Without a sense of absolute right and wrong, people retreat into a "better than" fame. They look to be more outraged, more intense, more aggressive. This how you get people who claim to care deeply about something, but do nothing other than insult others and demonstrate.

I did not go to ND. I am not even Catholic, but the world would be a better plaee if there were more Universities that followed it lead.
 
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Beach,
Here is something that relates somewhat both to your post and to the topic of our medical system
And Doctors.
When I got out of the Marine Corps in 1953, I worked a number of odd jobs, finally went back to finish high school, and started College in an engineering program 3 years at St. Vincent College and the Last two at ND. Even with the GI Bill, living away was too expensive so eventually, I transferred to a small Jesuit
College close to home , worked full time days , and finished my studies at night.
After graduating and teaching in a Catholic high school for two years, I was still single and had saved some money, and enrolled to do graduate work in Spain and later travel and work in Germany.
I also got married in Germany, and when we returned to the USA, we were also expecting our
First child. I barely had two pennies to rub together, so I took the first job that came along , teaching
Spanish in a public school.
The only problem with the job was that one had to teach a full year before he would be eligible
For the medical insurance that the school provided.
There was a General Practicioner around the corner from us, so we went into the office
And he took us as patients. We were fortunately in a number of ways:
1. The doctor spoke fluent German because his parents were German. Since my wife spoke
No English at that time, that was a God sent.
2. It also turned out that that doctor was a strict Catholic who did is pre med studies at St.Vincent
College where I had also done my first years of college studies.
3. He never charged us a penny for delivering our first child !
He was not only a great doctor but a doctor and Christian first and foremost! He was not only kind to us, but to all his other patients as well.
In later years , after we moved to a different part of New Jersey , I had had a number of GP's
And I was very impressed with all of them.
One really stands out. I got involved with him by agree to tutor his son. Over the years we became friends and he became my family doctor. His office was in a city with a large minority population. The doctor
Was first and foremost a humanitarian. He treated everyone whether they could pay him or not !
Sorry to be so long, but in sum, where are there doctors like that today ? Out here in Arizona,
The first question is give us your insurance card. No insurance , Adios.
 
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rgc7 said:
Beach,
Here is something that relates somewhat both to your post and to the topic of our medical system
And Doctors.
When I got out of the Marine Corps in 1953, I worked a number of odd jobs, finally went back to finish high school, and started College in an engineering program 3 years at St. Vincent College and the Last two at ND. Even with the GI Bill, living away was too expensive so eventually, I transferred to a small Jesuit
College close to home , worked full time days , and finished my studies at night.
After graduating and teaching in a Catholic high school for two years, I was still single and had saved some money, and enrolled to do graduate work in Spain and later travel and work in Germany.
I also got married in Germany, and when we returned to the USA, we were also expecting our
First child. I barely had two pennies to rub together, so I took the first job that came along , teaching
Spanish in a public school.
The only problem with the job was that one had to teach a full year before he would be eligible
For the medical insurance that the school provided.
There was a General Practicioner around the corner from us, so we went into the office
And he took us as patients. We were fortunately in a number of ways:
1. The doctor spoke fluent German because his parents were German. Since my wife spoke
No English at that time, that was a God sent.
2. It also turned out that that doctor was a strict Catholic who did is pre med studies at St.Vincent
College where I had also done my first years of college studies.
3. He never charged us a penny for delivering our first child !
He was not only a great doctor but a doctor and Christian first and foremost! He was not only kind to us, but to all his other patients as well.
In later years , after we moved to a different part of New Jersey , I had had a number of GP's
And I was very impressed with all of them.
One really stands out. I got involved with him by agree to tutor his son. Over the years we became friends and he became my family doctor. His office was in a city with a large minority population. The doctor
Was first and foremost a humanitarian. He treated everyone whether they could pay him or not !
Sorry to be so long, but in sum, where are there doctors like that today ? Out here in Arizona,
The first question is give us your insurance card. No insurance , Adios.
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It is definitely a different America in some regards.
You lived quite alike my friend

Semper Fi brother
 
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deadirishpoet said:
It is definitely a different America in some regards.
You lived quite alike my friend

Semper Fi brother
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Thanks Brother !
Unfortunately, the America that Iknew ( in spite of Economic depression, wars, etc ) no longer exists. However, God and the Lady on the Dome have always been with me whenever I really needed them.
Life has been good !
Semper Fi, Brother!
 
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rgc7 said:
Beach,
Here is something that relates somewhat both to your post and to the topic of our medical system
And Doctors.
When I got out of the Marine Corps in 1953, I worked a number of odd jobs, finally went back to finish high school, and started College in an engineering program 3 years at St. Vincent College and the Last two at ND. Even with the GI Bill, living away was too expensive so eventually, I transferred to a small Jesuit
College close to home , worked full time days , and finished my studies at night.
After graduating and teaching in a Catholic high school for two years, I was still single and had saved some money, and enrolled to do graduate work in Spain and later travel and work in Germany.
I also got married in Germany, and when we returned to the USA, we were also expecting our
First child. I barely had two pennies to rub together, so I took the first job that came along , teaching
Spanish in a public school.
The only problem with the job was that one had to teach a full year before he would be eligible
For the medical insurance that the school provided.
There was a General Practicioner around the corner from us, so we went into the office
And he took us as patients. We were fortunately in a number of ways:
1. The doctor spoke fluent German because his parents were German. Since my wife spoke
No English at that time, that was a God sent.
2. It also turned out that that doctor was a strict Catholic who did is pre med studies at St.Vincent
College where I had also done my first years of college studies.
3. He never charged us a penny for delivering our first child !
He was not only a great doctor but a doctor and Christian first and foremost! He was not only kind to us, but to all his other patients as well.
In later years , after we moved to a different part of New Jersey , I had had a number of GP's
And I was very impressed with all of them.
One really stands out. I got involved with him by agree to tutor his son. Over the years we became friends and he became my family doctor. His office was in a city with a large minority population. The doctor
Was first and foremost a humanitarian. He treated everyone whether they could pay him or not !
Sorry to be so long, but in sum, where are there doctors like that today ? Out here in Arizona,
The first question is give us your insurance card. No insurance , Adios.
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Great story. I am so glad you found a doctor to care for you and reward you for your service. Please add my thanks to his.
 
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beachcardinal said:
Great story. I am so glad you found a doctor to care for you and reward you for your service. Please add my thanks to his.
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Thank you Beach,
Good seeing you back on the board posting. Also looking forward to our game this year. Your team
Speed scares me to death. Keep posting and gives us updates on your team. I always enjoy posting
With you.
 
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Beach, you have always been one of my favorite rival posters. I don't always agree w/ you, but I do very often, and you bring a balanced style to this board. It's much appreciated given some other rival (& home) posters here.
 
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beachcardinal said:
Thanks. Also looking forward to the game. We are good but overrated so far. We lost more then some seem to realize. I am on this board a lot but only post when I think I can add something, which is seldom.
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Beach,
Just having people like you on this board is always an" Addition " ! Keep posting .
 
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here in Jersey we have our own 'crazy'! If people think Trump is arrogant, they don't know arrogant!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/03/politics/chris-christie-beach/index.html

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) -- Gov. Chris Christie spent part of Sunday lounging with his family on a beach at a state park he ordered closed to the public amid a government shutdown that showed little sign of ending.

The unpopular Republican governor, whose family was using the state residence at Island Beach State Park for the weekend, said later Sunday at a news conference in Trenton that he flew on a state helicopter to the residence.

"That's where my family is sleeping so that's where I'll sleep," he said. "When I have a choice between sleeping with my family or sleeping alone, I generally like to sleep where my family is."

The governor was photographed by NJ.com sitting with his family on a beach chair in sandals and a T-shirt before flying to talk to reporters in Trenton, where he worked without result to end the shutdown.

During the news conference, Christie was asked if he had gotten any sun that day, to which he said he didn't, NJ.com reported. The governor's spokesman agreed that Christie didn't get any sun; he said Christie was wearing a baseball hat.

Christie defended his use of the state property during the shutdown that affected the public, which is being kept out of state parks with signs blaming Democratic Assembly Speaker Vincent Prieto, on Saturday, saying: "That's the way it goes. Run for governor, and you can have the residence."
 
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make no mistake, have NO DOUBT: THE SHUTDOWN OF STATE PARKS WAS IN FACT ORDERED BY CHRISTIE.

He had it within his powers to keep the beaches open to the public; but then his family would not have had their own Island playground!

He is a real sleazy character, having no career left after Bridgegate, being dumped by Trump and now Beachgate, he just gives a R-A about what anyone thinks. He is just acting out now!

If you know the issue:
The Horizon Blue Cross issue is not in the state budget; it is separate.
However Christie is bullying the state government that if they pass the budget in spite of him and not give him the Horizon bill, he will line item veto every single Democratic sponsored part of the budget.
He then decided to shut things down. He could have spared the state park shutdown, that as part of the celebration of our nations founding, it was an 'essential' service. His family would have had to share the beach though!

Christie says, he had drawn a line in the sand! are you kidding; his choice of words!

Well, he and his family were the only ones who coud draw in the sand
 
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perseverare said:
make no mistake, have NO DOUBT: THE SHUTDOWN OF STATE PARKS WAS IN FACT ORDERED BY CHRISTIE.

He had it within his powers to keep the beaches open to the public; but then his family would not have had their own Island playground!

He is a real sleazy character, having no career left after Bridgegate, being dumped by Trump and now Beachgate, he just gives a R-A about what anyone thinks. He is just acting out now!
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Just goes to show you big government has no party lines
 
perseverare said:
here in Jersey we have our own 'crazy'! If people think Trump is arrogant, they don't know arrogant!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/03/politics/chris-christie-beach/index.html

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) -- Gov. Chris Christie spent part of Sunday lounging with his family on a beach at a state park he ordered closed to the public amid a government shutdown that showed little sign of ending.

The unpopular Republican governor, whose family was using the state residence at Island Beach State Park for the weekend, said later Sunday at a news conference in Trenton that he flew on a state helicopter to the residence.

"That's where my family is sleeping so that's where I'll sleep," he said. "When I have a choice between sleeping with my family or sleeping alone, I generally like to sleep where my family is."

The governor was photographed by NJ.com sitting with his family on a beach chair in sandals and a T-shirt before flying to talk to reporters in Trenton, where he worked without result to end the shutdown.

During the news conference, Christie was asked if he had gotten any sun that day, to which he said he didn't, NJ.com reported. The governor's spokesman agreed that Christie didn't get any sun; he said Christie was wearing a baseball hat.

Christie defended his use of the state property during the shutdown that affected the public, which is being kept out of state parks with signs blaming Democratic Assembly Speaker Vincent Prieto, on Saturday, saying: "That's the way it goes. Run for governor, and you can have the residence."
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Pers,
Happy 4th my friend,
What a State! Hope it stays solvent or I'll have to go get a job in Walmart ! I used to love
Living there, but now I could no longer to afford to pay the property taxes and income tax, not to mention the sales taxes and tolls. ,
Love it here in Az, but still miss those great beaches and my NYC !
 
rgc7 said:
Pers,
Happy 4th my friend,
What a State! Hope it stays solvent or I'll have to go get a job in Walmart ! I used to love
Living there, but now I could no longer to afford to pay the property taxes and income tax, not to mention the sales taxes and tolls. ,
Love it here in Az, but still miss those great beaches and my NYC !
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And the authentic Italian food
I lived in Phillipsburg for 3 years and that was the best part of it for me and the pretty girls
 
Baloney Perse

Prieto's own Party doesn't even support what he's doing-----this ones on him.

The state park beaches are closed because Vinnie 4 jobs roids are kicking in.

I have a very simple philosophy when it comes to Jersey Politics.

Anything the guys from Hudson County are for I'm against.

It works

Happy 4th.
 
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Italian food l Now your are talking my language ! Buon Apetito !
 
rgc7 said:
Italian food l Now your are talking my language ! Buon Apetito !
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For me it's hands down the best food in the world.!!!!!!

I'm not sure if you are familiar with Easton Pennsylvania (it's where my mother was raised) an Italian family adopted her from a foster home, he had his own butcher shop though I can't remember the name of it in Easton. They also taught my mother about her Jewish heritage.

Back to the food
naturally they made some excellent Italian food in fact I haven't been able to eat eggplant because I haven't found anyone to beat theirs.
Good Eats indeed
 
perseverare said:
make no mistake, have NO DOUBT: THE SHUTDOWN OF STATE PARKS WAS IN FACT ORDERED BY CHRISTIE.

He had it within his powers to keep the beaches open to the public; but then his family would not have had their own Island playground!

He is a real sleazy character, having no career left after Bridgegate, being dumped by Trump and now Beachgate, he just gives a R-A about what anyone thinks. He is just acting out now!

If you know the issue:
The Horizon Blue Cross issue is not in the state budget; it is separate.
However Christie is bullying the state government that if they pass the budget in spite of him and not give him the Horizon bill, he will line item veto every single Democratic sponsored part of the budget.
He then decided to shut things down. He could have spared the state park shutdown, that as part of the celebration of our nations founding, it was an 'essential' service. His family would have had to share the beach though!

Christie says, he had drawn a line in the sand! are you kidding; his choice of words!

Well, he and his family were the only ones who coud draw in the sand
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Wow
 
Christie showed his true colors when he delivered that self serving prime time speech at the GOP convention during Romney's nomination. Prior to that, Thought he was an articulate moderate conservative with Presidential potential. He followed that with his public Obama ass kissing and then bridgegate, and then the tear down of Rubio for his buddy Bush when he was obviously not a factor in this past primary. Now he simply looks like a petulant bully with zero following and zero political future. Feel sorry that New Jersey has to put up with his crap until the next election.
As for food, love Italian and Mexican. Son married into Mexican family and so we enjoy incredible authentic Mexican dishes made by the seniors in the family. Great Italian food can be had in California, but these places are few and far between; and few compare to the meals I used to get in little Italy in NY on work trips.
 
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