I am interested in hearing who you consider Anti Semitic.
Bet none of them are Democrats.
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Bet none of them are Democrats.
We're definitely gonna have to agree to disagree here. MTG and the HS drop out Bobert are dumb as rocks, and there are obviously dumber people then them who voted gor them.
Stupidity is not contained in one party, there seems to be enough to go around
As there is in Southern Nevada! Same back at you brother!
Considering you are unable to call out your own (AOC) you got no business throwing stones.
Unless I missed it, have you ever called her out?
And YES she has said dumber things more often then anyone else.
Of course the woke jokes won't think so
I was just making fun of her a few post prior about the whole boot strap comment she made.....sarcasm just doesn't go over well in text form, but if you need to hear it the whole square are a bunch of anti semites
To fly a terrorist fly outside a congressional office is a slap in the face
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HTF did a guys question about investing turn into idiots arguing about politics? Sooo fing tired of every topic ruined by that crap.
Now if you understand the market you know politics influence it at every turn so it is relevant and though the war can effect the market its probably best to avoid it though defense stocks (GD, LMT,NOC) are doing well
I don't see politics making too much of an impact. The 9% CAGR hold across all administrations in 20 year periods. Across WWI, WWII, the Cold War, The Great Depression, Stagflation, dot com, the Great Recession, the wars on terror, and covid.
Even across no NCs for ND since 1988!
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You would see the politics if you were investing in defense stocks but What looks out of place is how resilient the market is with this inflation, and the way the FED staeted late correcting it and, then the heavy handedness Powell tried to correct it.
It literally begging you to become a day trader do to the volatility
You’re clearly not that tired of it. You took the time to read, post, and get involved. Wouldn’t it be easier to just close the thread and read elsewhere, if you’re “sooo fing tired of” it?
Love people like you who complain….but then contribute to the problem
Trading is too volatile for me and usually just doesn't work.
I own defense stocks: NOC, LMT, BA. All are doing well. I buy when down, then just hold.
I wonder when the Fed will finally admit that trying to keep the 2% line is like trying to hold back the tide?
Voelker started that and while he was very good its not like that is written on stone by the Finger of God.
In this day and age I think you need to be more flexible.
After all has the Fed EVER managed a Soft Landing? How many times have they tried and failed?
Voelker started that and while he was very good its not like that is written on stone by the Finger of God.
In this day and age I think you need to be more flexible.
After all has the Fed EVER managed a Soft Landing? How many times have they tried and failed?
I’m 73 and contrary to traditional investing advice, we’re about 75% in the market because we don’t depend on these assets for our lifestyle and can afford to ignore the ups and down of the market.
I used to be heavily invested in individual stocks, but now all but $100K are in index funds. I invest this amount incrementally in high risk high return stocks in areas where I believe there will be significant favorable trends that the market has not yet chosen to recognize. For example, six plus years ago I invested in $10K each in NVDA and Mobile Eye as companies that would greatly benefit from autonomous driving enabled cars. These kind of investments keep me busy researching futuristic opportunities, offer tremendous risk and rewards, and keeps me out of the casinos!
You won't be ab;e to change the minds of these selfish, greedy people.
The Fed's bencbmark should be 3 percent
Just n Disney and is strongly considering down sizing selling of ESPN/ABC
Apple might be a buyer of DIS stand alone
In some place gas is three times what it was under Trump.
For the average joe on the street that is critical
But those talking stock market investments have no idea about that
The Labor participation rate is a lot more telling then unemployment rate.
She should be on the next flight to the Gaza strip
Just curious brother what was NVDA selling at 10 years ago. I tried to look it up but no solid answer.
If you don't want to thats fine no worries. I was just getting away from treasuries at that time and was taking hits(ouch)feeling my way around with some of the apple money my brother inlaw invested for me in 1980
Either way thank you in advance
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I bought NVDA in low 20’s. Told my wife the goal was to turn $10K into $55K to buy a newLexus SUV. The only reason I share this is because I hit my goal too quickly and cashed out and bought the Lexus, and I would have been better off keeping the stock. Have no idea how many splits have taken place since, as I don’t follow stocks I’m not invested in. Similar story with QCOM, except I sold my initial investment when there was too much exuberance and hype, and paid for our son’s College, and have been in and out several times since. Currently betting they will be a major player in AI and Autonomous Driving, and enjoying a decent dividend while waiting for breakthrough growth, which may or may not happen. Biggest miss was when our son recommended Netflix in 2003, and I thought it was stupid to invest in a model based on ordering movies in the mail when you could go to the local Hollywood and rent one for that night. again, at my age, I am a firm believer in the benefits of asset allocation spread across index funds, and for my personal enjoyment, setting aside a small stash for buying individual high risk high reward stocks.
Great story
Damn I was around at that time and money sitting in a 10 yr bond...
My brother inlaw took every cent i ($5000) and put it into Apple at $20
Truth is I forgot about it for 3 yrs.....just out of boot camp still 17 what do I need money for.......I was playing with guns' they feed me house me.
I didn't fully care till Rumsfeld was thinking about thinning down by that he military they yhst time there were s split.
I have taken out just $36,500 the past 9 months and made 8 percent
The reason I put that out is show someone
Alot of cats here probably thing the don't havec $36 grand ......well if you have a 401k you can be in the market.
That's 8% in 9 months on stable stocks (Apple, CRWD, Target, and CPS....the auto strike is hurting that so just by now low the strike won't last forever ....back in business.
Anyone can due this in moderate.
Happy trails friend
No. CRM humbled me, as I argued against it due to GAAP reporting. As I discussed earlier, I learned about quality growth chasers, my term for non-GAAP attractive companies spending as they raise sales and seize market share.
I should have bought CRM and got the multi bagger. I stupidly sold NVDA in 2010 after a 20% gain. It would now be a 10x bagger. Again, this reinforced for me that there are a few ways to appraise an instrument.
Never too old to learn. I always try to.
Here is how I foolishly sold my NVDA from my excel spreadsheets.
NVDA shares total price $/share
28-May-2008 200 $4,711.95 $23.56 basis
22-Aug-2008 100 $1,362.00 $13.62 basis
22-Aug-2008 50 $681.00 $13.62 basis
22-Aug-2008 100 $1,373.95 $13.74 basis
14-Dec-2012 2.66 $33.75 $12.68 div
21-Mar-2013 2.72 $33.95 $12.50 div
14-Jun-2013 2.37 $34.15 $14.40 div
13-Sep-2013 2.19 $34.33 $15.70 div
13-Dec-2013 2.58 $39.09 $15.12 div
I actually sold in on 5/14/2014. Again, just stupid on my part.
NVDA shares total price $/share
28-May-2008 200 $4,711.95 $23.56 basis
22-Aug-2008 100 $1,362.00 $13.62 basis
22-Aug-2008 50 $681.00 $13.62 basis
22-Aug-2008 100 $1,373.95 $13.74 basis
14-Dec-2012 2.66 $33.75 $12.68 div
21-Mar-2013 2.72 $33.95 $12.50 div
14-Jun-2013 2.37 $34.15 $14.40 div
13-Sep-2013 2.19 $34.33 $15.70 div
13-Dec-2013 2.58 $39.09 $15.12 div
I actually sold in on 5/14/2014. Again, just stupid on my part.
I did it right with MSFT. Bought at lower PEs and held, reinvesting dividends.
MSFT shares total price $/share
8-May-2006 500 $11,831.95 $23.66 basis
14-Sep-2006 1.726 $45.00 $26.07 div
14-Dec-2006 1.686 $50.17 $29.76 div
8-Mar-2007 1.813 $50.34 $27.77 div
14-Jun-2007 1.654 $50.52 $30.54 div
13-Sep-2007 1.746 $50.69 $29.03 div
13-Dec-2007 1.594 $55.95 $35.10 div
13-Mar-2008 1.959 $56.12 $28.65 div
12-Jun-2008 2.053 $56.34 $27.44 div
11-Sep-2008 2.112 $56.57 $26.78 div
11-Dec-2008 3.35 $67.12 $20.04 div
12-Mar-2009 4.062 $67.56 $16.63 div
18-Jun-2009 2.902 $68.09 $23.46 div
10-Sep-2009 2.752 $68.47 $24.88 div
10-Dec-2009 2.311 $68.82 $29.78 div
11-Mar-2010 2.383 $69.12 $29.01 div
10-Jun-2010 2.769 $69.43 $25.07 div
9-Sep-2010 2.895 $69.79 $24.11 div
9-Dec-2010 3.166 $86.36 $27.28 div
10-Mar-2011 3.397 $86.87 $25.57 div
9-Jun-2011 3.666 $87.41 $23.84 div
8-Sep-2011 3.34 $88.00 $26.35 div
8-Dec-2011 4.343 $110.67 $25.48 div
8-Mar-2012 3.475 $111.54 $32.10 div
14-Jun-2012 3.856 $112.23 $29.11 div
13-Sep-2012 3.701 $113.00 $30.53 div
13-Dec-2012 4.766 $130.80 $27.44 div
14-Mar-2013 4.71 $131.90 $28.00 div
13-Jun-2013 3.837 $132.98 $34.66 div
12-Sep-2013 4.087 $133.87 $32.76 div
12-Dec-2013 4.382 $164.11 $37.45 div
13-Mar-2014 4.316 $165.34 $38.31 div
12-Jun-2014 4.105 $166.55 $40.57 div
11-Sep-2014 3.606 $167.70 $46.50 div
11-Dec-2014 3.892 $186.78 $47.99 div
12-Mar-2015 4.411 $187.99 $42.62 div
11-Jun-2015 4.121 $189.36 $45.95 div
10-Sep-2015 4.48 $190.63 $42.55 div
10-Dec-2015 4.015 $222.99 $55.54 div
10-Mar-2016 4.39 $224.44 $51.12 div
9-Jun-2016 4.332 $226.02 $52.18 div
8-Sep-2016 3.939 $227.58 $57.78 div
8-Dec-2016 4.124 $248.08 $60.15 div
9-Mar-2017 3.882 $249.69 $64.33 div
8-Jun-2017 3.467 $251.20 $72.46 div
14-Sep-2017 3.384 $252.55 $74.62 div
14-Dec-2017 3.194 $273.40 $85.59 div
8-Mar-2018 2.934 $274.74 $93.63 div
14-Jun-2018 2.729 $275.98 $101.12 div
13-Sep-2018 2.505 $277.12 $110.64 div
13-Dec-2018 2.787 $304.67 $109.30 div
14-Mar-2019 2.695 $305.95 $113.52 div
13-Jun-2019 2.321 $307.19 $132.35 div
12-Sep-2019 2.277 $308.26 $135.36 div
12-Dec-2019 2.264 $342.92 $151.47 div
12-Mar-2020 2.206 $344.08 $155.95 div
10-Sep-2020 1.671 $345.20 $206.63 div
11-Dec-2020 1.797 $379.98 $211.42 div
12-Mar-2021 1.626 $380.99 $234.32 div
11-Jun-2021 1.479 $381.90 $258.20 div
10-Sep-2021 1.289 $382.73 $297.02 div
10-Dec-2021 1.244 $424.53 $341.36 div
10-Mar-2022 1.488 $425.30 $285.89 div
10-Jun-2022 1.671 $426.23 $255.03 div
9-Sep-2022 1.621 $427.26 $263.58 div
9-Dec-2022 1.912 $469.71 $245.66 div
10-Mar-2023 1.881 $471.01 $250.44 div
9-Jun-2023 1.439 $472.29 $328.27 div
15-Sep-2023 1.420 $473.27 $333.27 div
An $11,831.95 basis is currently worth $231,985.00. That's a 1860.67% total return on 18.59% CAGR. $14,141.45 in reinvested dividends are now worth $65,665.00.
The most important thing is I bought the basis at a PE of around 17. It's in my Seeking Alpha blog for precise details. Note most of the dividends were reinvested at low PEs, often between 9 - 13. The current PE of MSFT is around 34. But the historical 20, 15, 10, 5, and 3 year averages have been 20.29, 22.40, 28.51, 32.20, and 34.71.
MSFT is clearly overvalued according to the longer term PEs. I wouldn't buy right now. I will hold, as it's still a great company, growing revenue and profits.
A fair value for a blue chip when interest rates are normalized is between 18 - 22. In a low interest environment, which was the case for a long time, it's 20 - 24. We are back to normalized interest rates...and I expect this to last for decades. No more cheap money.
Stocks will be under pressure as the S&P500 reverts to a PE = 15. Hence, pick quality. Buy undervalued stocks...or dollar cost average in index funds. Nothing ever changes with this analysis. Here is the link to my Seeking Alpha blog again on MSFT: https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/11370081-banmate6/5296757-reviewing-2006-msft-investment
BTW: I've done even better with my AAPL stock. A massive company has given me even bigger CAGR based on simple enough value analysis.
MSFT shares total price $/share
8-May-2006 500 $11,831.95 $23.66 basis
14-Sep-2006 1.726 $45.00 $26.07 div
14-Dec-2006 1.686 $50.17 $29.76 div
8-Mar-2007 1.813 $50.34 $27.77 div
14-Jun-2007 1.654 $50.52 $30.54 div
13-Sep-2007 1.746 $50.69 $29.03 div
13-Dec-2007 1.594 $55.95 $35.10 div
13-Mar-2008 1.959 $56.12 $28.65 div
12-Jun-2008 2.053 $56.34 $27.44 div
11-Sep-2008 2.112 $56.57 $26.78 div
11-Dec-2008 3.35 $67.12 $20.04 div
12-Mar-2009 4.062 $67.56 $16.63 div
18-Jun-2009 2.902 $68.09 $23.46 div
10-Sep-2009 2.752 $68.47 $24.88 div
10-Dec-2009 2.311 $68.82 $29.78 div
11-Mar-2010 2.383 $69.12 $29.01 div
10-Jun-2010 2.769 $69.43 $25.07 div
9-Sep-2010 2.895 $69.79 $24.11 div
9-Dec-2010 3.166 $86.36 $27.28 div
10-Mar-2011 3.397 $86.87 $25.57 div
9-Jun-2011 3.666 $87.41 $23.84 div
8-Sep-2011 3.34 $88.00 $26.35 div
8-Dec-2011 4.343 $110.67 $25.48 div
8-Mar-2012 3.475 $111.54 $32.10 div
14-Jun-2012 3.856 $112.23 $29.11 div
13-Sep-2012 3.701 $113.00 $30.53 div
13-Dec-2012 4.766 $130.80 $27.44 div
14-Mar-2013 4.71 $131.90 $28.00 div
13-Jun-2013 3.837 $132.98 $34.66 div
12-Sep-2013 4.087 $133.87 $32.76 div
12-Dec-2013 4.382 $164.11 $37.45 div
13-Mar-2014 4.316 $165.34 $38.31 div
12-Jun-2014 4.105 $166.55 $40.57 div
11-Sep-2014 3.606 $167.70 $46.50 div
11-Dec-2014 3.892 $186.78 $47.99 div
12-Mar-2015 4.411 $187.99 $42.62 div
11-Jun-2015 4.121 $189.36 $45.95 div
10-Sep-2015 4.48 $190.63 $42.55 div
10-Dec-2015 4.015 $222.99 $55.54 div
10-Mar-2016 4.39 $224.44 $51.12 div
9-Jun-2016 4.332 $226.02 $52.18 div
8-Sep-2016 3.939 $227.58 $57.78 div
8-Dec-2016 4.124 $248.08 $60.15 div
9-Mar-2017 3.882 $249.69 $64.33 div
8-Jun-2017 3.467 $251.20 $72.46 div
14-Sep-2017 3.384 $252.55 $74.62 div
14-Dec-2017 3.194 $273.40 $85.59 div
8-Mar-2018 2.934 $274.74 $93.63 div
14-Jun-2018 2.729 $275.98 $101.12 div
13-Sep-2018 2.505 $277.12 $110.64 div
13-Dec-2018 2.787 $304.67 $109.30 div
14-Mar-2019 2.695 $305.95 $113.52 div
13-Jun-2019 2.321 $307.19 $132.35 div
12-Sep-2019 2.277 $308.26 $135.36 div
12-Dec-2019 2.264 $342.92 $151.47 div
12-Mar-2020 2.206 $344.08 $155.95 div
10-Sep-2020 1.671 $345.20 $206.63 div
11-Dec-2020 1.797 $379.98 $211.42 div
12-Mar-2021 1.626 $380.99 $234.32 div
11-Jun-2021 1.479 $381.90 $258.20 div
10-Sep-2021 1.289 $382.73 $297.02 div
10-Dec-2021 1.244 $424.53 $341.36 div
10-Mar-2022 1.488 $425.30 $285.89 div
10-Jun-2022 1.671 $426.23 $255.03 div
9-Sep-2022 1.621 $427.26 $263.58 div
9-Dec-2022 1.912 $469.71 $245.66 div
10-Mar-2023 1.881 $471.01 $250.44 div
9-Jun-2023 1.439 $472.29 $328.27 div
15-Sep-2023 1.420 $473.27 $333.27 div
An $11,831.95 basis is currently worth $231,985.00. That's a 1860.67% total return on 18.59% CAGR. $14,141.45 in reinvested dividends are now worth $65,665.00.
The most important thing is I bought the basis at a PE of around 17. It's in my Seeking Alpha blog for precise details. Note most of the dividends were reinvested at low PEs, often between 9 - 13. The current PE of MSFT is around 34. But the historical 20, 15, 10, 5, and 3 year averages have been 20.29, 22.40, 28.51, 32.20, and 34.71.
MSFT is clearly overvalued according to the longer term PEs. I wouldn't buy right now. I will hold, as it's still a great company, growing revenue and profits.
A fair value for a blue chip when interest rates are normalized is between 18 - 22. In a low interest environment, which was the case for a long time, it's 20 - 24. We are back to normalized interest rates...and I expect this to last for decades. No more cheap money.
Stocks will be under pressure as the S&P500 reverts to a PE = 15. Hence, pick quality. Buy undervalued stocks...or dollar cost average in index funds. Nothing ever changes with this analysis. Here is the link to my Seeking Alpha blog again on MSFT: https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/11370081-banmate6/5296757-reviewing-2006-msft-investment
BTW: I've done even better with my AAPL stock. A massive company has given me even bigger CAGR based on simple enough value analysis.
Well according to Charles Payne in his first book quoting Buffett I believe you sale at 20% percent......so there's no doubt I would done that as well and my ignorance would of kept me from doubting myself 😆
In regards to NVDA there was an IPO (ARM) that NVDA was interested in having read several articles prior to the IPO release.
Unfortunately I missed the article were it read NVDA was pulling back interest along with the media hype on IPOs being back i bought in (at $55 a share and lost my at.
With all the talk about Artificial Intelligence I was hoping to get into it cheap (MSFT is cornering the market)....well win some lose some for sure
In regards to AAPL and the trouble with DIS there definitely opportunities there
I need to put spread sheet together to monitor CAGR on all my investment
Being in treasuries from 1980 11% (aside from my brother inlaw investing in AAPL for me) to 2002 5% there was no need for one but now there's is
Thank you for all your help
