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geez, I made a post about Ali, I hope it was ok?
I gotta give it to you when you said he was one of the most "notable" people of our time. Very well said. I am surprised that Barry O isn't going to make an appearance at the Funeral. Is he going to his daugher's graduation or is it going to conflitct with a tee time?
 
Here is a photo of baby CJ Sanders with Ali.
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He has amassed many, many, many millions. He is a capitalist and has employed thousands of people. An incredible businessman who has made his money in the dreaded private sector. The democratic nominee has lined her and her family pockets while "serving" in public office.
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he also inherited many, many millions. your "incredible " label is hilarious. not too hard to score when you are born on third.
 
how in hell did Donald Trump get into a nationally prominent political position? Have we all gone mad?

Shall we next resurrect Nero?

PS: HC is just about as insane a consideration!

Folks, what the hell have we done?

Time to pray w/o ceasing!

"...Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
...."
 
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being born into what he did was his built in advantage. he had a step up on 99% of others being born into the family he did. it's a huge advantage.
Yeah everyone with some money increases their wealth 400 fold. Your blinded by your hatred for the man.
 
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Yeah everyone with some money increases their wealth 400 fold. Your blinded by your hatred for the man.
" some " money ? please. yes, i don't care for him. that said whoever loses the election ( besides the american people ) should hang their head in shame for losing to such a garbage human being.
 
^ these truely are 2 despicable individuals, of any sorts anywhere at anytime!

woe to him who says good is bad and bad is good!
 
And now the media are all treating Hillary like she's Joan of Arc. Don't blame Hillary or Trump for all this. They both put their character on display and many voters bought into it without hesitation. It's the voters who are the problem. I see it locally, at the state level and nationally. I guess the decision to make now is who will be the least annoying for the next four years. I am an ultra conservative who has no candidate in the final round...........again.
 
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Yeah everyone with some money increases their wealth 400 fold. Your blinded by your hatred for the man.

Ay his age, 400-fold is not all that much.
And now the media are all treating Hillary like she's Joan of Arc. Don't blame Hillary or Trump for all this. They both put their character on display and many voters bought into it without hesitation. It's the voters who are the problem. I see it locally, at the state level and nationally. I guess the decision to make now is who will be the least annoying for the next four years. I am an ultra conservative who has no candidate in the final round...........again.

I have not voted for either party's candidate since 1992 so I have also wondered about the electorate at large, but during the same time I have considered whether it is my views that are out of step with the electorate. You may wish to ponder the same yourself; maybe being an ultra-conservative, in your words, is the mistake.
 
No. I'm not the the problem. It's what the far left try to make everyone believe but it's not based on fact. Pro life, 2nd amendment, traditional marriage, pro military, pro Israel, if you have male parts you use the mens. You know, everything Hollywood, the music industry, the media, ESPN, the Democratic party, and you are against. My core beliefs are rock solid. Never changes. Constant. I know it burns you but deal with it the best you can.
 
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No. I'm not the the problem. It's what the far left try to make everyone believe but it's not based on fact. Pro life, 2nd amendment, traditional marriage, pro military, pro Israel, if you have male parts you use the mens. You know, everything Hollywood, the music industry, the media, ESPN, the Democratic party, and you are against. My core beliefs are rock solid. Never changes. Constant. I know it burns you but deal with it the best you can.

Considering I offered none of my opinions on these issues, your shots at me are utterly ridiculous. I merely wrote that my differences with the mainstream electorate had suggested that I consider my views. I wondered whether the same may be suitable for you; no insult in that.

But considering the myopia present in this posting, it is not evidence of rock solid beliefs. You simply demonstrate the ego held by so many that make you believe you are correct in all opinions regardless of other evidence, a disappointing stance for an educated person. I can only hope you are not an alumnus of ND.
 
Was I having a bad national nightmare or didn't our troops return from Nam to a chorus of names like baby killers and warmongers to name a few. Some even spat on the returning soldiers uniforms. There was a lot of things said and done during the later years of the war. If we can forgive those who disgraced our returning troops from Nam then why not Muhammad Ali too? He who is without sin, let him cast the stone.
Who forgave those?
 
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this country does not need a racist buffoon in the oval office.

What did he say that was racist. He made proper comments about ethnicities, but none had racist tones. he didn't belittle a race by pointing out concerns.

Race will be used at the Democrats Ace in the Hole completely disregarding their own racist rhetoric
The Democratics are also trying to twist foundational constitutional rights. And making up ones such as transvestite's belief over rules biologys/science
 
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What did he say that was racist. He made proper comments about ethnicities, but none had racist tones. he didn't belittle a race by pointing out concerns.

Race will be used at the Democrats Ace in the Hole completely disregarding their own racist rhetoric
The Democratics are also trying to twist foundational constitutional rights. And making up ones such as transvestite's belief over rules biologys/science
Gotcha. A regular buffoon then.
 
Now it's hard to argue against that, he better start inquiring a politician filter, or his messages will be lost while he'll have to explain the foot in mouth syndrome he continues to employ

The hell with that ! Let Trump be Trump ! Unfiltered non bs politician ! And he speaks the truth ! The Obama years have brought lawlessness, deep division between Americans, and tons of regulations that hurt business ! Obama does not care for getting good deals for America, He is always aplologizing to other countrys !
This country needs it's BALLS back ! That is why Trump is getting record # of votes ! Most in Republican history ! Paul Ryan and Mutt Romney are traitors !
 
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The hell with that ! Let Trump be Trump ! Unfiltered non bs politician ! And he speaks the truth ! The Obama years have brought lawlessness, deep division between Americans, and tons of regulations that hurt business ! Obama does not care for getting good deals for America, He is always aplologizing to other countrys !
This country needs it's BALLS back ! That is why Trump is getting record # of votes ! Most in Republican history ! Paul Ryan and Mutt Romney are traitors !

As popular as that is with the all in Trump crowd it will not bring in those who are on the fence. There are not enough He did not create his empire by being boisterous all the time.

It's time for him to be polished, I completely agree about Ryan and the rest of the GOP old guard.
It's time for term limits
 
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Considering I offered none of my opinions on these issues, your shots at me are utterly ridiculous. I merely wrote that my differences with the mainstream electorate had suggested that I consider my views. I wondered whether the same may be suitable for you; no insult in that.

But considering the myopia present in this posting, it is not evidence of rock solid beliefs. You simply demonstrate the ego held by so many that make you believe you are correct in all opinions regardless of other evidence, a disappointing stance for an educated person. I can only hope you are not an alumnus of ND.

I never went beyond high school and I still created a slow burn in your head. My core values are what they are whether you like it or not. I am not correct in all things. Not even close. But, I am correct in regards to pro life, military, police, traditional marriage, Israel, the 2nd amendment, and keeping weirdos out of our ladies bathrooms. It doesn't matter what you think, say, or do. My original comments were on the voters of this country, taking no aim at the left. You decided to take it to the next level and now you look foolish doing it. Just let it be. I wanted my focus to be on the voters, not you.
 
if you do away with term limits then you will have to have a plan in place for the formation of committees. Also, what about Nat'l Security issues? Less classified or strategic info can be shared with a transient congress.
But a limit of some duration 12-16 years would be workable; where 2 terms are unworkable > 4 seems excessable and stagnant.
 
if you do away with term limits then you will have to have a plan in place for the formation of committees. Also, what about Nat'l Security issues? Less classified or strategic info can be shared with a transient congress.
But a limit of some duration 12-16 years would be workable; where 2 terms are unworkable > 4 seems excessable and stagnant.
Good points, but I will take those restraints over the professional politions we have now
 
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I agree with term limits and that neither presumptive candidate are actually good for the future of America.

That said, Hillary will win in a landslide against Trump as America and Americans, while often gullible, are not plain stupid and far smarter than to let a clown like him lead the great nation most of us love.

Hell, the vast majority of the GOP, some sane and some not, are doing every thing they can to run from him!

What those who lean Right should really worry about is the make of of the Senate, Congress and the losses they will have in the Govenor races. Trump will hurt every aspect of the GOP.
 
I agree with term limits and that neither presumptive candidate are actually good for the future of America.

That said, Hillary will win in a landslide against Trump as America and Americans, while often gullible, are not plain stupid and far smarter than to let a clown like him lead the great nation most of us love.

Hell, the vast majority of the GOP, some sane and some not, are doing every thing they can to run from him!

What those who lean Right should really worry about is the make of of the Senate, Congress and the losses they will have in the Govenor races. Trump will hurt every aspect of the GOP.
Yeh ... they would rather have a morally defunct, lifetime criminal who should be serving time, pathological liar continuing with a failed administration. Remember these folks voted for Obama a second time. Yeh, they're not stupid.
 
I agree with term limits and that neither presumptive candidate are actually good for the future of America.

That said, Hillary will win in a landslide against Trump as America and Americans, while often gullible, are not plain stupid and far smarter than to let a clown like him lead the great nation most of us love.

Hell, the vast majority of the GOP, some sane and some not, are doing every thing they can to run from him!

What those who lean Right should really worry about is the make of of the Senate, Congress and the losses they will have in the Govenor races. Trump will hurt every aspect of the GOP.
Hillary in a landslide my ass. Trump is going to beat her and that is so much better for the country.. She is an incompetent hack
Look up corruption and you will see her ugly pic.
Her only redeeming factor is she turned down cgvr's propositions while Bill was
boinking the interns in the Oral Office.
 
RIP the greatest boxer of all time. Very sad day in the sports world.
Forty years ago I thought Ali was a draft-dodging punk who loved American values plenty on payday but claimed an exemption on payback day. Now I realize compulsory service to a country is wrong. If a country by virtue of the values it holds fails to earn the willingness of its citizens to volunteer to defend it, then it does not deserve to be defended.
 
^ careful with that idea. Phrases i have heard 'Biblical Times' (when did biblical times end, jmo we are still in them; till the end); and Revolutionary Times (our country), greatest generation, and.... We are not living in 'Honorable Times' And those with little honor could just stroll in and take over if 'we' could did not choose to defend! (oh, yep, the Russians have invaded, without a shot.) And now? The 'we' referred to is the founding generations that formulated our government and way of life; the reasons and philosophies were (till recent) read, with pride, in history books by succeeding generations. The 'we' is now old and or deceased; (the "we" that followed by that way of life, liberty, and the pursuit of freedom (was originally property there). The goal 'inorder to form a more perfect union' is now a lost notion and the carpet baggers come from all over the globe, and none are interested in a 'more perfect union' but each possesing a self interest plan; very different from the original vision.
These are not 'honorable times'.

A famous respected preacher I heard deliver a sermon once said, 'if God doesn't do something about America, then he owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology'. Well....
 
Hillary in a landslide my ass. Trump is going to beat her and that is so much better for the country.. She is an incompetent hack
Look up corruption and you will see her ugly pic.
Her only redeeming factor is she turned down cgvr's propositions while Bill was
boinking the interns in the Oral Office.
They are BOTH bad for america.
 
They are BOTH bad for america.
We know this ..... Hillary is DEFINITELY bad for America. Putting criminals and the corrupt and dishonest in a position of power will never turn out well. It's a proven fact Hillary is all of the above. The jury is still out on Trump. He's an unknown. I don't care for Trump much either but given the option I will take my chances on the unknown in this case.

Hard to imagine that someone so untrustworthy and who is under criminal investigation is even permitted to run much less is supported by the sitting President. Leadership and integrity be damned. We have regressed to an all-time low. One thing for sure. The fix is in.
 
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There is zero credible evidence that Hillary is a criminal and her missteps with emails may have broke policy, but not any laws. Keep in mind, and let's be honest here so hold the right wing spin, not one email she sent was marked classified at the time she sent them and the vast majority on emails were recieved (also none classified) not sent. No candidate in history has faced the scrutiny and the conspiracy of a right spin machine intent on briging her down, but unable to do so.

As for the upcoming election, Clinton will win in an electoral landslide and by a wider margin in the popular vote than in each of the last four presidential elections. She will win, not because she has rousing support or is destined to be the next JFK, but because Trump is so weak, so bigoted and so bad for America.
 
There is zero credible evidence that Hillary is a criminal and her missteps with emails may have broke policy, but not any laws. Keep in mind, and let's be honest here so hold the right wing spin, not one email she sent was marked classified at the time she sent them and the vast majority on emails were recieved (also none classified) not sent. No candidate in history has faced the scrutiny and the conspiracy of a right spin machine intent on briging her down, but unable to do so.

As for the upcoming election, Clinton will win in an electoral landslide and by a wider margin in the popular vote than in each of the last four presidential elections. She will win, not because she has rousing support or is destined to be the next JFK, but because Trump is so weak, so bigoted and so bad for America.
One suggestion.

Vitamin D3
 
There is zero credible evidence that Hillary is a criminal and her missteps with emails may have broke policy, but not any laws. Keep in mind, and let's be honest here so hold the right wing spin, not one email she sent was marked classified at the time she sent them and the vast majority on emails were recieved (also none classified) not sent. No candidate in history has faced the scrutiny and the conspiracy of a right spin machine intent on briging her down, but unable to do so.

As for the upcoming election, Clinton will win in an electoral landslide and by a wider margin in the popular vote than in each of the last four presidential elections. She will win, not because she has rousing support or is destined to be the next JFK, but because Trump is so weak, so bigoted and so bad for America.
What color is the sky in your world? Clueless.
 
"...The hell with that ! Let Trump be Trump ! Unfiltered non bs politician ! And he speaks the truth ! The Obama years have brought lawles...."

And do you need more from Bodi to realize the best part of him dribbled down his fathers leg!
He is intellectually sterile!

(and don't forget, he is 'continuously's biatch')

I know you all already know this; just reminding him!
 
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Since this thread has gone political I'll add this:
not one email she sent was marked classified at the time she sent them

Pure Clinton BS. Of course they weren't marked classified. As Secretary of State she was reading the information before it is vetted and given a security level. This is such a perfect example of the Clinton problem. I'm not interested in another 4 or 8 years of playing "what the meaning of is, is."

I'll take the crazy ginger that has everyone going bat crazy that he might win. But I have a feeling he is going to win 70 or 80% of the white male vote in the country. And lose the election badly.

Go USA soccer!
Go Irish!
 
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Forty years ago I thought Ali was a draft-dodging punk who loved American values plenty on payday but claimed an exemption on payback day. Now I realize compulsory service to a country is wrong. If a country by virtue of the values it holds fails to earn the willingness of its citizens to volunteer to defend it, then it does not deserve to be defended.
I believe you have just sold millions of volunteers of that time short including my brother's
 
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