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If, and that's a big IF, Epic or Big (I apologize for the redundancy) does respond you know he's going to simply claim "all lies" you are just perpetuating.

I find the hypocrisy of supporting an obvious rapist enabler (Hillary) with no qualms while attacking others for alleged rape where there is no proof of such conduct very strange.

 
I love the Bible quotes when a point needs to be driven home. It doesn't make the point any more correct but it does look more distinguished. And who said those who disgraced our returning troops have all been forgiven? Many many vets are still angry with Jane Fonda. Ali's past is his past and it can never be erased no matter how much they try. He did take a softer side in the 1980s but his rhetoric before that was brutal.
 
You are just a sheeple that can't stand someone who is not PC. America is turning into a lawless society with no middle class. Stopping illegal immigration and making better trade deals and trying to bring jobs back into this country are what Trump is trying to do.

Who cares if he is a republican democrat or not ? It is the issues I care about.. America is fading fast and we need to get it jumpstarted,
if trump really wants to bring jobs back shouldn't he start with some of his own companies ? i'm not voting for either of the presumptive nominees. i could care less about PC. i d like to be able to vote for a candidate because that candidate offers the possibility of making my country better. i don't want to vote for a candidate strictly because i believe the other one is worse. over 300 million people in this country and instead of picking between two solid, qualified candidates we are forced to choose between what one perceives as the best of the worst. no thanks.
 
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if trump really wants to bring jobs back shouldn't he start with some of his own companies ? i'm not voting for either of the presumptive nominees. i could care less about PC. i d like to be able to vote for a candidate because that candidate offers the possibility of making my country better. i don't want to vote for a candidate strictly because i believe the other one is worse. over 300 million people in this country and instead of picking between two solid, qualified candidates we are forced to choose between what one perceives as the best of the worst. no thanks.

Many seem to be having the same approach. Let us hope the result is not even worse than the candidates seem to be currently.
 
Trump is a successful business man, like it or not. I'd rather ride is coat tails and hope and pray he can make this country better. A vote for Hillary is a vote for 4 more years of the same crap we have under the clown who is occupying the seat ride now. No thanks for Hillary the liar.
 
Trump is a successful business man, like it or not. I'd rather ride is coat tails and hope and pray he can make this country better. A vote for Hillary is a vote for 4 more years of the same crap we have under the clown who is occupying the seat ride now. No thanks for Hillary the liar.
we've had crap in that office going on 16 years. neither of the presumptive nominees give me any hope that they can right the ship.
 
Trump is a successful business man, like it or not. I'd rather ride is coat tails and hope and pray he can make this country better. A vote for Hillary is a vote for 4 more years of the same crap we have under the clown who is occupying the seat ride now. No thanks for Hillary the liar.
lets not act like trump is a self made man. born with a head start that most never have. successful and failed multiple times over. don't get me wrong i'mj certainly not in hillarys camp either.
 
lets not act like trump is a self made man. born with a head start that most never have. successful and failed multiple times over. don't get me wrong i'mj certainly not in hillarys camp either.
Many successful businessmen have failed in endeavors. Their nature is to take big risk for big rewards. He is an incredible business man
 
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Many successful businessmen have failed in endeavors. Their nature is to take big risk for big rewards. He is an incredible business man
incredible ? i don't know about that. that said he is also a racist buffoon. his recent remarks about a federal judge are reprehensible and disgusting. the thought of him as president makes me physically ill.
 
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incredible ? i don't know about that. that said he is also a racist buffoon. his recent remarks about a federal judge are reprehensible and disgusting. the thought of him as president makes me physically ill.
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incredible ? i don't know about that. that said he is also a racist buffoon. his recent remarks about a federal judge are reprehensible and disgusting. the thought of him as president makes me physically ill.
If it is a race about character. Trump wins in a landslide. Then again you said Ali was a great human being.
 
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If it is a race about character. Trump wins in a landslide. Then again you said Ali was a great human being.
Good point. When it comes to character if the thought of Trump makes him physically ill then the thought of Hillary has to make him think of cliff jumping or sky diving without a chute.
 
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if trump really wants to bring jobs back shouldn't he start with some of his own companies ? i'm not voting for either of the presumptive nominees. i could care less about PC. i d like to be able to vote for a candidate because that candidate offers the possibility of making my country better. i don't want to vote for a candidate strictly because i believe the other one is worse. over 300 million people in this country and instead of picking between two solid, qualified candidates we are forced to choose between what one perceives as the best of the worst. no thanks.

I am going antiestablishment all the way my fellow Irish fan. I have been behind Trump from the start. No more rinos like McCain or Romney. I just feel differently than the people who are antiTrump. I respect your position EchoWaker--- I just don't agree. But I do think you are intelligent and an excellent poster and a Gentlemen. Go Irish !!
 
I am going antiestablishment all the way my fellow Irish fan. I have been behind Trump from the start. No more rinos like McCain or Romney. I just feel differently than the people who are antiTrump. I respect your position EchoWaker--- I just don't agree. But I do think you are intelligent and an excellent poster and a Gentlemen. Go Irish !!

Trump is unconventional and not a career politician, but he is still part of the establishment. Just consider the connections he has to different facets of influential people. He is just more of an ass than most establishment types.
 
He is

If it is a race about character. Trump wins in a landslide. Then again you said Ali was a great human being.
how so ? neither of them have any character. its a race where we all lose. she is a lying POS and he is an ignorant clown. yes ali did many more great things in his life than bad ones. no one is perfect. that guy passed long ago.
 
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If it is a race about character. Trump wins in a landslide. Then again you said Ali was a great human being.
he's not an incredible businessman. he was born on third base and still trying to convince folks he hit a triple.
 
I am going antiestablishment all the way my fellow Irish fan. I have been behind Trump from the start. No more rinos like McCain or Romney. I just feel differently than the people who are antiTrump. I respect your position EchoWaker--- I just don't agree. But I do think you are intelligent and an excellent poster and a Gentlemen. Go Irish !!
while i despise trump it is time for major change. he 's just not the right person. the two party system is totally corrupt.
 
how so ? neither of them have any character. its a race where we all lose. she is a lying POS and he is an ignorant clown. yes ali did many more great things in his life than bad ones. no one is perfect. that guy passed long ago.
Then we agree. Forced to choose Trump is the lesser of two evils. And it isn't close.

Ignorant clown trumps (no pun intended) lying pos everytime.
 
I am going antiestablishment all the way my fellow Irish fan. I have been behind Trump from the start. No more rinos like McCain or Romney. I just feel differently than the people who are antiTrump. I respect your position EchoWaker--- I just don't agree. But I do think you are intelligent and an excellent poster and a Gentlemen. Go Irish !!
Good post Bodi. Everytime the establishment get upset by Trump's act I become more of a fan. He is just what this country needs,
Romney is pathetic and so is Ryan.
 
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I am going antiestablishment all the way my fellow Irish fan. I have been behind Trump from the start. No more rinos like McCain or Romney. I just feel differently than the people who are antiTrump. I respect your position EchoWaker--- I just don't agree. But I do think you are intelligent and an excellent poster and a Gentlemen. Go Irish !!

I don't understand how someone can support Trump, who hasn't been a Republican for very long, and at the same time criticize the last two candidates for being "RINOs".
 
In recent history there has never been a more outright bigot or one who belittles women, people with disabilities and the poor more than Trump. Additionally, he has no sense of history, no sea legs for politics and lacks the common sense any person needs to deal with even the most simple issues facing America. He has no plan, simply rhetoric, bluster and bragging that seems unjustified when you look at his long list of failures.

Anyone, and I really mean anyone ho could support this guy really needs to take a hard look as to what could be wrong with themselves for not being int lignite enough to see through the fraud that is Trump.
 
Pennick, Have you reviewed his business failures, his bankruptcies, the 3500 times he has been sued? If you were given a million at 21 and a head start because your father was New Yorks biggest slum lord and then over 100 million when your old man died, you might also be more than an internet troll.

Trump is a fraud!
 
Good post Bodi. Everytime the establishment get upset by Trump's act I become more of a fan. He is just what this country needs,
Romney is pathetic and so is Ryan.
this country does not need a racist buffoon in the oval office.
 
The sad part is that about 30% of the electorate is stupid enough to fall for a bigot and baboon like Trump.
 
Lol. You might not care for the guy but to say he isn't an incredible businessman is idiotic.
how is he an incredible businessman ? did he build something from nothing ? he is another example of "affluenza " and getting special treatment and built in advantages.
 
I don't understand how someone can support Trump, who hasn't been a Republican for very long, and at the same time criticize the last two candidates for being "RINOs".
he is no more of a republican than i am. he took the path of least resistance. he loved the clintons when they were in power because it benefited him. anyone who thinks he genuinely cares about the well being of the american people is foolish. all he cares about is the man in the mirror and how much power he can amass.
 
Lol. You might not care for the guy but to say he isn't an incredible businessman is idiotic.

He has 3-4 bankruptcies causing the loss of money and jobs. Any building he has done creates short-term jobs through a small business person, the contractor. Independent of building, none of his companies do well: Trump University, Trump airline, Trump beverages along with others. He is little other than a business person who contracts work from others, but directs little else. He may be successful enough, but nowhere near incredible.
 
The sad part is that about 30% of the electorate is stupid enough to fall for a bigot and baboon like Trump.
Are those the same people who voted in the lame Obama as President? Trump will be a hell of a lot better then Obama or Liar Hillary.
 
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If Obama could run today, he would win in a landslide against anyone in the GOP.
 
^ but honestly, ohB would be a better option than the 2 choices we are apparently going to pick from.
A sad state of the nation.
 
Good post Bodi. Everytime the establishment get upset by Trump's act I become more of a fan. He is just what this country needs,
Romney is pathetic and so is Ryan.

Trump is talking about issues that actually will help working Americans. Like getting better trade deals, stopping ILLEGAL immigration. Appointing conservative judges. The left wing and the right wing establishment are besides themselves and they should be --because Trump is going to win in November, Big time.
 
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He has 3-4 bankruptcies causing the loss of money and jobs. Any building he has done creates short-term jobs through a small business person, the contractor. Independent of building, none of his companies do well: Trump University, Trump airline, Trump beverages along with others. He is little other than a business person who contracts work from others, but directs little else. He may be successful enough, but nowhere near incredible.

He has amassed many, many, many millions. He is a capitalist and has employed thousands of people. An incredible businessman who has made his money in the dreaded private sector. The democratic nominee has lined her and her family pockets while "serving" in public office.[/QUOTE]
 
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how is he an incredible businessman ? did he build something from nothing ? he is another example of "affluenza " and getting special treatment and built in advantages.
He employs thousands. Tell me about his built in advantages?
 
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