OT: Mike Tyson

[Golson5]

Ok, I can post reasonably with you most of the time...but you are off your rocker on this one.

It was minimally a just in time, fait accompli staging...as Jake clearly pulled off, respecting Mike, so that both of them could laugh their way to the bank. I wouldn't at all be surprised if they explicitly through their managers agreed on how this would be fought.

It would take Jesus Christ to reveal something else. Can you get him to tell us the truth?

The only thing that happened was Jake didn't want to hurt mike and he stopped going after him after round 3 where he hurt him multiple times. After he saw Mike had no legs at all, he did the respectful thing and carried him through 8

Saying it was staged is totally different.

 

[banmate6]

The only thing that happened was Jake didn't want to hurt mike and he stopped going after him after round 3 where he hurt him multiple times. After he saw Mike had no legs at all, he did the respectful thing and carried him through 8

Saying it was staged is totally different.

It was staged, per what I wrote...something you just tacitly acknowledged.



Just in time staging minimally...something made fait accompli simply because Jake knew way in advance Mike is old. Easy pay day for both. Sucking in the circus and mob.

 

[Golson5]

It was staged, per what I wrote...something you just tacitly acknowledged.



Just in time staging minimally...something made fait accompli simply because Jake knew way in advance Mike is old. Easy pay day for both. Sucking in the circus and mob.

If that is what you are saying, then a lot of boxing is staged and has been for years.

Larry Holmes Ali was staged because Larry loved Muhammad and could have easily knocked him out early. He carried him until they threw in the towel. Didn't want to hurt him too bad

 

[banmate6]

If that is what you are saying, then a lot of boxing is staged and has been for years.

Larry Holmes Ali was staged because Larry loved Muhammad and could have easily knocked him out early. He carried him until they threw in the towel. Didn't want to hurt him too bad

We can agree to disagree on this. Most matches are competitively pursued. Although I acknowledge there have been some fixes, egregious or by judges.

This is an entirely different context.

 

[savvyandsassier]

That would have been cool if the thing went off the rails, and old boy got a little too rough with Tyson, seemingly as part of the ruse, and Tyson kind of lost it a little bit, his pride was hurt, he was confused, he thought maybe he'd been set up. And then just went off on little teenybopper influencer, and knocked him out with the one of the most spectacular and crushing KOs in his long, long list of them. And they had to cart him off to an ambulance or whatever.

And he's like standing over him and taunting him, "You couldn't survive in my world, bitch!" And it's just like old times for Iron Mike.

 

[Irishjohn68]

I thought (and hoped) Tyson would kick the crap out of Jake Paul. Boy was I dead wrong. Iron Mike looked old and out of shape. It was hard to watch. I sure hope Iron Mike is finished.

 

[sjb75]

Yeah it's extremely easy

But the point went way over your head

If you are going to stage something and it was rigged, they would have rigged it to be a fun exciting fight. There would be drama and action. And they wouldn't have told Mike to look absolutely horrible.

Just think about what you are saying. You are trying to say they rigged a fight, to be absolutely horrible to watch for the fans

No lol

Professional Boxing has been corrupt for decades. On many levels. Too much money involved not to be.

I though Friday night was orchestrated and pre planned from the get go.

 

[Patrish]

Yes I watched a lot of his training for the fight. He looks old and slow. He moves at a decent speed in very short bursts. But he can't sustain it

How do you know that he can’t sustain it ?

Were you in his training camp or are you just taking an uneducated guess

 

[Patrish]

 

[Patrish]

 

[Patrish]

 

[Telx1]

I finally watched a portion of the program, the fight between Barrios and Ramos. That was one hell of a boxing match and rekindled my old love for boxing. That match and the respect they showed for each other after the bout is worthy of discussion here.

 

[Golson5]

How do you know that he can’t sustain it ?

Were you in his training camp or are you just taking an uneducated guess

Because it was obvious for the world to see.

There's a reason boxers stop before 40 usually.

Mike was slow and a shell of himself 20 years ago.

Now people are surprised or confused how he can look old and slow at 58

HES 58 YEARS OLD

 

[Patrish]

Because it was obvious for the world to see.

There's a reason boxers stop before 40 usually.

Mike was slow and a shell of himself 20 years ago.

Now people are surprised or confused how he can look old and slow at 58

HES 58 YEARS OLD

Tyson was ferocious in his training camp videos

You think, after understanding the limitations that were placed on him, by the contract that governed the fight, that you’d finally agree that the fight was fixed, or maybe orchestrated is a better term if you’d like, but it wasn’t a pure boxing match, that’s for sure

You just can’t admit that you’re wrong and on this one you’re dead wrong

Tyson was limited by the contract terms with regard to his boxing techniques.
The contract also limited his compensation based on the number of rounds fought.

But you’re going to sit there like a moron and declare that everything was on the up and up and that it was a pure boxing contest and that Tyson was just old.

You’re a FRAUD !

 

[Golson5]

Tyson was ferocious in his training camp videos

You think, after understanding the limitations that were placed on him by the contract that govern the fight that you’d finally agree that the fight was fixed, it maybe orchestrated is a better term, but it wasn’t a pure boxing match, that’s for sure

You just can’t admit that you’re wrong and on this one you’re dead wrong

Tyson was limited by the contract terms with regard to his boxing techniques.
The contract also limited his compensation based on the number of rounds

But you’re going to sit there like a moron and declare that everything was on the up and up and that it was a pure boxing contest and that Tyson was just old.

You’re a FRAUD !

He's 58 years old. He was finished 20 years ago.

Because you saw some training videos you think he was supposed to turn back time and evolution and look good at 58

Got it

 

[Patrish]

He's 58 years old. He was finished 20 years ago.

Because you saw some training videos you think he was supposed to turn back time and evolution and look good at 58

Got it

if he’s so old, why were there contract restrictions prohibiting him from using his uppercut

If he’s so old, why was he restricted from knocking out Jake Paul in the early rounds?

You’re just too stupid to understand that this fight was rigged

 

[Irish_Mutt]

Golson, someone older in age hoping Tyson could pull the victory away from father time isn't an idiot. I hoped like hell he could because I'm starting to get up there in years myself. Clearly there was no moral victory to be had that night, Paul was better than a 58 year old legend. That still doesn't make me an idiot for hoping he could hang with the young man. When you get older, you will probably understand that point of view better.

 

[FightingIrish44]

So is that 100% true about the payouts and Tyson couldn’t throw an uppercut?

If so, I don’t know why anyone would want to watch that except out of curiosity. That’s like saying a team can’t throw the ball at certain times in a football game. The payout clause means it’s not an authentic match.

I wouldn’t want to pay for that. I hope that was common knowledge before the fight.

 

[NDinNJ]

Only an idiot would maintain that the fight wasn’t rigged once the terms of the progressive payout for Tyson were revealed.

Not to mention the judges had to be approved by Jake Paul. Honestly, Tyson didn't have a chance with the stipulations the way they were.

 

[NDinNJ]

 

[sjb75]

Golson, someone older in age hoping Tyson could pull the victory away from father time isn't an idiot. I hoped like hell he could because I'm starting to get up there in years myself. Clearly there was no moral victory to be had that night, Paul was better than a 58 year old legend. That still doesn't make me an idiot for hoping he could hang with the young man. When you get older, you will probably understand that point of view better.

All scripted.

 

[NDinNJ]

Tyson was ferocious in his training camp videos

You think, after understanding the limitations that were placed on him, by the contract that governed the fight, that you’d finally agree that the fight was fixed, or maybe orchestrated is a better term if you’d like, but it wasn’t a pure boxing match, that’s for sure

You just can’t admit that you’re wrong and on this one you’re dead wrong

Tyson was limited by the contract terms with regard to his boxing techniques.
The contract also limited his compensation based on the number of rounds fought.

But you’re going to sit there like a moron and declare that everything was on the up and up and that it was a pure boxing contest and that Tyson was just old.

You’re a FRAUD !

He can never admit he's wrong. He's the running joke of this forum. Him and chase, they belong together. 😝

 

[NDblitz]

Because it was obvious for the world to see.

There's a reason boxers stop before 40 usually.

Mike was slow and a shell of himself 20 years ago.

Now people are surprised or confused how he can look old and slow at 58

HES 58 YEARS OLD

He might be old and slow. But not for 58. That's for sure.

 

[NDblitz]

One thing is for certain. Tyson would kick anybody's ass posting in here. I wouldn't fight him.

 

[Patrish]

So is that 100% true about the payouts and Tyson couldn’t throw an uppercut?

If so, I don’t know why anyone would want to watch that except out of curiosity. That’s like saying a team can’t throw the ball at certain times in a football game. The payout clause means it’s not an authentic match.

I wouldn’t want to pay for that. I hope that was common knowledge before the fight.

Unfortunately, it was not common knowledge prior to the fight

 

[Golson5]

Golson, someone older in age hoping Tyson could pull the victory away from father time isn't an idiot. I hoped like hell he could because I'm starting to get up there in years myself. Clearly there was no moral victory to be had that night, Paul was better than a 58 year old legend. That still doesn't make me an idiot for hoping he could hang with the young man. When you get older, you will probably understand that point of view better.

Hoping and thinking he had a chance are two different things

Father time beat Tyson 20 years ago

 

[Golson5]

He can never admit he's wrong. He's the running joke of this forum. Him and chase, they belong together. 😝

Oh he's back at it I see

Your guy lost. He looked like shit. Everything I said was going to happen, happened.

And then you cry and say it was rigged

See, you can't stay away from talking about me. No matter what. The obsession continues

🤣🤣🤣

Are you done bragging on that great Auburn and LSU offense yet? How's your boy Nussmeir doing with his 15 turnovers?

Clown. You just couldn't help yourself.

 

[Golson5]

One thing is for certain. Tyson would kick anybody's ass posting in here. I wouldn't fight him.

So would Jake Paul. Even worse than what Tyson could

 

[Patrish]

Hoping and thinking he had a chance are two different things

Father time beat Tyson 20 years ago

The only thing that beat Mike Tyson was Robin Givens

 

[Patrish]

So would Jake Paul. Even worse than what Tyson could

If that was the case, Jake Paul would not have contractually restricted Tyson.

The contract specifically prohibited Tyson from knocking Jake Paul out early
And the contract prohibited Tyson from using his uppercut, one of the most feared punches in all of boxing

An unrestricted Tyson would’ve knocked Jake Paul out early

Only a fool thinks otherwise

 

[Golson5]

The only thing that beat Mike Tyson was Robin Givens

And Buster Douglas, Evander Hokyfield, Lennox Lewis and a couple other buns late in his career

 

[Golson5]

If that was the case, Jake Paul would not have contractually restricted Tyson.

The contract specifically prohibited Tyson from knocking Jake Paul out early
And the contract prohibited Tyson from using his uppercut, one of the most feared punches in all of boxing

An unrestricted Tyson would’ve knocked Jake Paul out early

Only a fool thinks otherwise

Only a fool believes everything they see on YouTube and reads on the internet

I have a bridge in Brooklyn up for sale, I know you will be interested in that

And only a fool would think a 58 year old 25 years past his prime fighter could compete with a 27 year old in shape fighter.

 

[Golson5]

This obsession with Tyson is laughable. He got beat down by Kevin Mcbride and Danny Williams 20 years ago. They were bums back then. He's now 20 years older

Hanging onto the past I get but come on people. Use your heads

 

[Patrish]

Only a fool believes everything they see on YouTube and reads on the internet

I have a bridge in Brooklyn up for sale, I know you will be interested in that

And only a fool would think a 58 year old 25 years past his prime fighter could compete with a 27 year old in shape fighter.

Evidently, Jake Paul believed it, because he structured the contract so that it prevented Tyson from using his uppercut and from knocking him out in the early rounds.

So anything that’s on the Internet that disagrees with your opinion should be dismissed
And everything that agrees with your opinion should be embraced

I’ll ask my question again if Jake Paul was superior to Tyson why did he put all the contractual restrictions on Tyson ?

Restrictions that prevented Tyson from using his uppercut and from knocking Jake Paul out in the early rounds

Try to address those two issues instead of trying to deflect the issues

The fact is you don’t know what you’re talking about

 

[NDinNJ]

Dana knows the deal

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[Patrish]

 

[NDinNJ]

If you go back and rewatch the fight, there were several times in the early rounds where Tyson had an open Paul and held back throwing his punch that could have nailed Paul. A seasoned fighter doesn't miss those opportunities. It's all good though, Tyson got a nice payday to play paddy-cakes in the ring for 16 minutes.

 

[Patrish]

And Buster Douglas, Evander Hokyfield, Lennox Lewis and a couple other buns late in his career

They only beat him AFTER Robin Givens had taken her toll on him, ala Samson and Delilah

Prior to Robin Givens he was unbeatable

 

[Patrish]

If you go back and rewatch the fight, there were several times in the early rounds where Tyson had an open Paul and held back throwing his punch that could have nailed Paul. A seasoned fighter doesn't miss those opportunities. It's all good though, Tyson got a nice payday to play paddy-cakes in the ring for 16 minutes.

Everybody in the fight world knows that Tyson would’ve destroyed Jake Paul, except for the know it all and denier in residence, who is clueless when it comes to boxing ……… amongst other things

 

[Telx1]

Everybody in the fight world knows that Tyson would’ve destroyed Jake Paul, except for the know it all and denier in residence, who is clueless when it comes to boxing ……… amongst other things

Pat,
Didn’t watch the so-called fight and don’t intend to. But you’ve raised some interesting points. As someone who often refers to the accuracy of Las Vegas betting spreads, etc… can you tell us if Vegas was taking bets on this fight? If so, it’s hard for me to believe there were these kinds of contract Restrictions. The whole boxing scene has a rich history of corruption, etc… but a written contract like you have described that is withheld from the betting public would seem to be fodder for all sorts of lawsuits from bettors and the casinos themselves.