So that explains 13-7 after 44-6?
The offense last night was abysmal, and Sam Hartman is the QB.
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The offense last night was abysmal, and Sam Hartman is the QB.
My question is why are you still talking about Kelly? He’s not here. He didn’t recruit very effectively. He hired terrible coaches time and time again. He won a lot of games against Wake Forest and Syracuse. And when it mattered, he got slaughtered. But he’s also not here. I’m immensely frustrated by last night. I’m upset because I like Freeman. I couldn’t stand Kelly for personal reasons. And I really like Freeman. So my frustration is that the guy I’m desperate to see do well is not doing well. You’re frustrated because the guy you absolutely worship isn’t here anymore.
So there’s a solution for that: get off the ****ing board and go cheer for that fat sonofabitch in Baton Rouge and leave Notre Dame for those of us who actually care about it.
I agree. I'm not happy. I wanted Fickell, we got Freeman. Let's see how it plays out. We can't change it. Wanting a coach fired in the middle of his 2nd year is dumber than dumb.
Why, because when you finish 44-6 in your last 50 games from 2018-2021, and then you are 13-7 the next 20 games, and you have the benefit of getting Sam Hartman to play QB, and you watch the offense last night, questions will arise.
The offense last night and the last two games has been inadequate at best.
Sam Hartman isn't that great. If he was he wouldn't be using his Covid year, he'd be in the NFL. So stop with Hartman is great he's not. , he's a serviceable QB that's it.
Sam Hartman is better than Brandon Wimbush, Ian Book, and Jack Coan, who were a combined 44-6 from 2018-2021.
We are all aware that the offense is a mess. Parker appears to be Freeman’s Van Gorder. But the more you talk about Kelly, the less I care to be part of this board. Give it up
The USC game is a big test for MF and the entire program.
No game on the schedule means more.
Ian Book got drafted and didn't use his Covid year. That alone makes Book better than Hartman.
2021 had to be one of the easiest schedules ND has ever had. 1 ranked opponent on the schedule and that was against a team (Cincinnati) filled with 3 star recruits where ND lost that game by two scores at HOME. Keep trying.
The Kelly schedules were laughable. Funny he bolts for LSU when (a) the QB position is a mess and (b) the schedule gets tougher.
Agree, Kelly NEVER faced a stretch of 4 games where the opponents records are a combined
21-1, and the one loss is at the hands of ND.
Sam Hartman is a better CFB QB than Brandon Wimbush, Ian Book, or Jack Coan, which is why last night, and frankly the last 3 games, are so confusing on offense.
When you go from Brian Kelly and Tommy Rees running an offense to Marcus Freeman and Gerad Parker, maybe we should not be so surprised.
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Again Book is the better QB, He was drafted after 5 years. Hartman is in year 6, if he was better than Book he'd be in the NFL THIS YEAR! As it is now, Hartman will not get drafted after this year he may land on a practice squad as an UFA.
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USC has Utah, Washington, at Oregon and UCLA following.
No game means more to USC than UCLA. None.
Why you mention the NFL is baffling. Apples and oranges, and IB is out of the league.
Sam Hartman is a better CFB QB than Brandon Wimbush, Ian Book, or Jack Coan, who combined were 44-6 from 2018-2021.
Wrong, he's not. Book was a better college QB, and NFL teams confirmed it by DRAFTING him !!
Nah. Close, but not better. And like you have said, if IB was so good, why were the Clemson and Alabama CFB playoff games so lopsided.
NFL teams confirmed Book is better by DRAFTING him.
Those regular season schedules were laughable. Those teams played 1-2 ranked opponents each season. lol 2018 -2021 was FOOLS GOLD and you are dumb enough to buy into that mirage.
Show me where between 2018 and 2021, Kelly faced a stretch of 4 games vs opponents with a combined record of 21-1 and I'll buy you dinner at the place of your choosing.
You have chastised Brian Kelly ad nauseum for blowout losses to Clemson in 2018 and Alabama in 2020, now you tell me Ian Book is a better CFB QB than Sam Hartman, and IB QB'd both games.
Those games were lack of preparation. The common denominator in all of those blow out losses wasn't Book, it was Kelly.
Of course, and when Alabama beat Ohio St. 52-24 for the 2020 title, it was Ryan Day.
So that's what we're going to listen to for the next 3 years .
Marcus Freeman is a great coach but Kelly left him no WR's.
LMFAO
No one is saying Freeman is a great coach, but Kelly wasn't either
Kelly also NEVER faced a 4 game stretch of games where the teams were a combined 21-1 with the only loss coming to ND.
Anyone with a brain could tell you 2018-2021 was FOOLS GOLD, and you as well as sbj fell for that mirage.
Got to disagree, Hartman is that great and his numbers substantiate that claim.
If your OLine doesn’t provide adequate protection no QB is going to excel
Kelly had NOTHING to do with ND’s scheduling, he could only play the teams presented to him !
Hartman’s numbers prove otherwise
Hartman’s long ball accuracy is exponentially better than Books
Well, let's see what the NFL thinks, they are the professionals in evaluating talent.
Kelly resurrected ND’s football program
Kelly is the winningest coach in ND’s history.
Kelly’s last five year record is terrific_
Kelly could only play the games on his schedule.
Kelly vied for 3 NC’s in ten years, 2012-2021
i dislike Kelly, but you have to give the devil his due !
How can you ignore Hartmans spectacular stats ?
They tell you all you want to know.
He’s an exponentially better passer than Book and I was a big Book fan
So what? Charlie Weis went 19-6 (76% winning percentage) in his first two seasons. We all know how that turned out.
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