Nope. It’s accurate. PSU has their 3 projected first round picks sit out, yes. Most teams had numbers in the mid teens opt out. PSU was one of the lowest. In fact they mentioned during the bowl games exactly that
OT: #5 PSU vs #17 Ole Miss (F+ ratings)
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Starters are what would impact the result of a game, not a set of backups/third stringers. Someone presenting bench warmer information as impactful is doing so with an agenda.
That said, kudos to Ole Miss to not have a group of quitters.
Penn State had those first rounders against OSU and Michigan, the only 2 teams PSU played in the regular season with a pulse.
Didn't matter.
Lol. No shit Sherlock.
Ole Miss had their projected top ten DE sit out. And their starting OT. And two safeties, one their starting safety.
3 starters.
Also a bunch of their second teamers. Their backup QB which ended up not being an issue.
As compared to PSU, who missed their 3 starters which I already mentioned. You said 4. Ok then, one more starter….
Here is exact quote:
Despite having a selection of players already declared for the NFL Draft, it looked like Penn State had retained the services of many of its top players for the Peach Bowl. However, ESPN’s Jordan Reid reported pre-game that Olu Fashnu, Kalen King, and Johnny Dixon would not be playing.
Fashanu is projected as a top-10 pick in the NFL Draft has opted out after he had originally intended to play in the Peach Bowl, which would be his last appearance in college football.
TEs Theo Johnson and Tyler Warren, LB Curtis Jacobs, DT Devon Ellies, iOL Hunter Nourzad, and DE Adisa Isaac have also opted to play despite them moving on.
As I said, PSU was one of the least impacted teams in bowl season.
Please name the Ole Miss starters besides the DE, and provide a source that shows they were starters. Starting a single game or a few games does not give one a stater designation for a season.
Add Chop Robinson. He had announced long before the game.
See above
You also wrote the above statements as facts.
There are too many one game upsets regardless of which system anyone uses to say “This system isn’t any good.” We’ve seen a #18 Notre Dame beat #3 Florida, an unranked Stanford beat a #1 Notre Dame, and on and on and so on for examples of upsets using human polls. One game outcomes don’t invalidate a predictive model, which F+ is. Now, could Ole Miss replicate this result? Yes, it could. No system is going to predict every outcome of every game as there are hundreds/thousands of factors at play, but when looking at the totality of play of every non-garbage time offensive and defensive snap and taking into account the totality of opponents’ snaps and these opponents’ snaps, the system says team X has performed better than team Y but that does t mean team Y cannot beat team X in a one game scenario and/or that the team matches up better vs. that team than it does with others.
F+ had full strength PSU as an 8 point favorite over full strength Ole Miss—Vegas had PSU as a 5.5 favorite over Ole Miss, too, knowing that Robinson, a top 20 NFL pick, a player playing an elite difference making position, i.e., edge rusher and that a top 5-7 NFL pick in OT Ola Fashanu weren’t going to play. Does Vegas also not know what it’s doing? I have not seen a team with a higher F+ be an underdog vs. a team with a lower F+ on a neutral field unless those F+ numbers are almost exactly the same.
F+ had Texas as a 4 point favorite over Washington—Vegas had Texas as a 3.5 point favorite.
F+ had Michigan as an 8.5 favorite over Washington—Vegas started Michigan as a 3.5 point favorite and then all the money came in on Michigan moving the line to 5.5 at kickoff.
F+ had full strength PSU as an 8 point favorite over full strength Ole Miss—Vegas had PSU as a 5.5 favorite over Ole Miss, too, knowing that Robinson, a top 20 NFL pick, a player playing an elite difference making position, i.e., edge rusher and that a top 5-7 NFL pick in OT Ola Fashanu weren’t going to play. Does Vegas also not know what it’s doing? I have not seen a team with a higher F+ be an underdog vs. a team with a lower F+ on a neutral field unless those F+ numbers are almost exactly the same.
F+ had Texas as a 4 point favorite over Washington—Vegas had Texas as a 3.5 point favorite.
F+ had Michigan as an 8.5 favorite over Washington—Vegas started Michigan as a 3.5 point favorite and then all the money came in on Michigan moving the line to 5.5 at kickoff.
THATS WHY THEY PLAY THE GAMES!! Not difficult to understand. It happens in EVERY SPORT.
No one dates about F+ it's a crappy rating system. PLAY THE GAMES AND WIN PERIOD.
Would you rather they not play and let's just use statistics? lol what a joke. Stats only get you so far, there are other intangibles, like coaching, guys that may not be more talented but give more effort than the more talented players.
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Why are you arguing a strawman? Who is saying don’t play the games? Of course you play the games. That’s why Washington was in the playoffs and not Oregon even though Oregon is probably a better team and would be favored in a third matchup. But Oregon lost twice to Washington, so didn’t deserve to make the college football playoffs.
But if we are talking about evaluating, which teams have performed the best, well, this freely available system is the one that’s closest to how Vegas and betting sites see the teams.
Mrs JoePa, do your own research. It seems you have the agenda. The graphic included Johnson DT , Coleman (LB/S from TCU), and Williams (S). Forgot the OL guy.
You keep excusing PSU. Have fun.
Things aren’t going well for you if you need to resort to an insult.
You made the claim, I just requested you support it.
Please provide what this “graphic” is. Ole Miss’ own website seems to think Coleman played, although other sites don’t show him with any tackles.
Williams was not a starter. He played in 153 of Ole Miss’ 842 snaps while finishing 5th in tackles by their safeties.
Ole Miss Transfer Portal Tracker 2023-24: List of all players who've entered the transfer portal
The Ole Miss Rebels went 10-2 this season and finished the year with a 17-7 win over Mississippi State to win the Egg Bowl.
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There was no starting OL guy. There was a backup named Cedric Melton.
Before you say it, yes, Ole Miss was missing a QB. Just not the starter named Dart.
