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Officially Official Sugar Bowl ND v. UGA Game Thread

Junior has been good all year. And had a big game today. You said he wasn't a rotational player even

Hinish....crickets

Freeman coached a great game.

I think you are upset we won 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Our lbs were the main reason the run game for georgia got stopped, not our interior dline. Hinish had a huge play to end the game but he was getting leaned on a bit. Our interior dline played very hard and held up though.

I am stoked we won! Especially with riley passing terrible, denbrock not having a great plan, the team being undisciplined with a lot of penalties, and the most blown defensive assignments all year. The run D, riley running (when it was finally called), and special teams were great though. Need Offense to be much better next week.

We have to play much cleaner vs penn state as they do a lot of window dressing to try and get you to blow assignments.
 
Our lbs were the main reason the run game for georgia got stopped, not our interior dline. Hinish had a huge play to end the game but he was getting leaned on a bit. Our interior dline played very hard and held up though.

I am stoked we won! Especially with riley passing terrible, denbrock not having a great plan, the team being undisciplined with a lot of penalties, and the most blown defensive assignments all year. The run D, riley running (when it was finally called), and special teams were great though. Need Offense to be much better next week.

We have to play much cleaner vs penn state as they do a lot of window dressing to try and get you to blow assignments.
Completing 62.5% of your passes is not passing terribly as you claim, especially when Georgia put pressure on the QB all night
 
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Our lbs were the main reason the run game for georgia got stopped, not our interior dline. Hinish had a huge play to end the game but he was getting leaned on a bit. Our interior dline played very hard and held up though.

I am stoked we won! Especially with riley passing terrible, denbrock not having a great plan, the team being undisciplined with a lot of penalties, and the most blown defensive assignments all year. The run D, riley running (when it was finally called), and special teams were great though. Need Offense to be much better next week.

We have to play much cleaner vs penn state as they do a lot of window dressing to try and get you to blow assignments.
WTF, our dline played lights out. They stuffed Georgia's oline all night. Georgia got very little push and Oben had the gamebreaking play that changed the whole complextion of the game. Not only are you one of the worse complainers here you compound it by not even knowing what you're complaining about.
 
WTF, our dline played lights out. They stuffed Georgia's oline all night. Georgia got very little push and Oben had the gamebreaking play that changed the whole complextion of the game. Not only are you one of the worse complainers here you compound it by not even knowing what you're complaining about.
Georgia center seemed to think our dline played well too:

"They're a good physical team," center Jared Wilson said. "I saw a lot of reports saying they're small, but that doesn't matter, honestly. They’ve got some dogs up front and over their front seven, and it was their day. They're a great, great, great team, and it just wasn't our night."
 
WTF, our dline played lights out. They stuffed Georgia's oline all night. Georgia got very little push and Oben had the gamebreaking play that changed the whole complextion of the game. Not only are you one of the worse complainers here you compound it by not even knowing what you're complaining about.
Our dline played solid, they played FAR from lights out. Golden had so many well timed run blitzes called and the LBs, and safeties did unreal against the run. Yes the Dline made some huge plays against their awful LT. I'm not saying our front 4 played bad, but to say our front 4 was stuffing them is just untrue.
 
Our dline played solid, they played FAR from lights out. Golden had so many well timed run blitzes called and the LBs, and safeties did unreal against the run. Yes the Dline made some huge plays against their awful LT. I'm not saying our front 4 played bad, but to say our front 4 was stuffing them is just untrue.
Georgia's oline didnt get a push all night, their oline rarely got to the 2nd level which allowed our lbs to get downhill and attack the rb's. Georgia had 62 yards the whole game. That wasnt because of run blitzes that was a result of the dline stuffing the middle and lbs and safeties coming up and making plays.
 
Size is one factor. So is speed, agility, sports IQ, and, in the case of linemen, leverage. I recall a Stanford U paper on linemen. The strongest and biggest were inferior to better athletes applying leverage, putting a premium on athleticism. It said gym rats lifting the most weren't always the best linemen.

I posted during the game that this was what I was sensing. I mentioned some elite Alabama defenses that were smaller but better. Obviously all things being near equal, size, weight, and strength matter...but evidently these things weren't between the ND D line and GA O line.

The Hinish sack summed it up. He used agility, speed, and leverage to get around under a bigger and heavier OL-man to end the game with a sack on Stockton. With the loss of Mills, I for one thought ND might struggle on the DL, but the depth showed itself...pleasantly surprising me.

What a great treat and outcome.
 
Our dline played solid, they played FAR from lights out. Golden had so many well timed run blitzes called and the LBs, and safeties did unreal against the run. Yes the Dline made some huge plays against their awful LT. I'm not saying our front 4 played bad, but to say our front 4 was stuffing them is just untrue.

The Adon Shuler blitz might’ve just been the Defensive call/play of the year to me.
 
Our lbs were the main reason the run game for georgia got stopped, not our interior dline. Hinish had a huge play to end the game but he was getting leaned on a bit. Our interior dline played very hard and held up though.

I am stoked we won! Especially with riley passing terrible, denbrock not having a great plan, the team being undisciplined with a lot of penalties, and the most blown defensive assignments all year. The run D, riley running (when it was finally called), and special teams were great though. Need Offense to be much better next week.

We have to play much cleaner vs penn state as they do a lot of window dressing to try and get you to blow assignments.
Time to remind ourselves that Denbrock came right off the Brian Kelly Coaching Shrub while Golden came from an experienced tenure with our opponents.
 
Makes huge plays with his feet. Still think we’re going to need more from the passing game to win a natty. We essentially got 14 pts from ST/D. There’s going to be a time where ND will need to score 28+ and be a threat in the air. Hasn’t happened yet so who knows, maybe the D continues to hold it down.
USC
 
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Our lbs were the main reason the run game for georgia got stopped, not our interior dline. Hinish had a huge play to end the game but he was getting leaned on a bit. Our interior dline played very hard and held up though.

I am stoked we won! Especially with riley passing terrible, denbrock not having a great plan, the team being undisciplined with a lot of penalties, and the most blown defensive assignments all year. The run D, riley running (when it was finally called), and special teams were great though. Need Offense to be much better next week.

We have to play much cleaner vs penn state as they do a lot of window dressing to try and get you to blow assignments.
Nonsense. They ran for 62 yards. The interior DL and Hinish held up extremely well. If our DTs were getting abused like you thought they would the LB play wouldn't mean shit. You were wrong. It's okay

Riley didnt pass terrible. He played great considering the circumstance. Any chance he really had time he made the throw. The D had 2 blown assignments 🤣🤣

The offense will be better because the OL won't be getting beat like they did most of the Georgia game. We did what we had to to win that particular game. Not many QBs win that game but we got one of them
 
Our dline played solid, they played FAR from lights out. Golden had so many well timed run blitzes called and the LBs, and safeties did unreal against the run. Yes the Dline made some huge plays against their awful LT. I'm not saying our front 4 played bad, but to say our front 4 was stuffing them is just untrue.
Just ridiculous moronic stuff here
 
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Our dline played solid, they played FAR from lights out. Golden had so many well timed run blitzes called and the LBs, and safeties did unreal against the run. Yes the Dline made some huge plays against their awful LT. I'm not saying our front 4 played bad, but to say our front 4 was stuffing them is just untrue.
Other than one run, 34 yards in 28 attempts, and you don’t think the defensive line played lights out
 
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Haha! Good one!
 
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Other than one run, 34 yards in 28 attempts, and you don’t think the defensive line played lights out
No… we had to blitz lbs more than we did all season

The dline played very gap sound, but did not win many battles other than against their LT.

I’m not trying to discredit the line, they played hard and better than I thought they would. But we blitzed almost every play. Many times bringing 2. Now, insane credit on being gap sound and not letting them bust runs. Georgia was vey gap sound against us other than qb runs, nd stopped Stockton running. Georgia interior was pushing back our ol, we were not doing ther to Georgia. Cross didn’t register a tackle.
 
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No… we had to blitz lbs more than we did all season

The dline played very gap sound, but did not win many battles other than against their LT.

I’m not trying to discredit the line, they played hard and better than I thought they would. But we blitzed almost every play. Many times bringing 2. Now, insane credit on being gap sound and not letting them bust runs. Georgia was vey gap sound against us other than qb runs, nd stopped Stockton running. Georgia interior was pushing back our ol, we were not doing ther to Georgia. Cross didn’t register a tackle.
Send your resume in. Another arm chair coach that thinks he knows what he's talking about. 🙄 what a tool.
 
Our lbs were the main reason the run game for georgia got stopped, not our interior dline. Hinish had a huge play to end the game but he was getting leaned on a bit. Our interior dline played very hard and held up though.

I am stoked we won! Especially with riley passing terrible, denbrock not having a great plan, the team being undisciplined with a lot of penalties, and the most blown defensive assignments all year. The run D, riley running (when it was finally called), and special teams were great though. Need Offense to be much better next week.

We have to play much cleaner vs penn state as they do a lot of window dressing to try and get you to blow assignments.
Nonsense. They ran for 62 yards. The interior DL and Hinish held up extremely well. If our DTs were getting abused like you thought they would the LB play wouldn't mean shit. You were wrong. It's okay

Riley didnt pass terrible. He played great considering the circumstance. Any chance he really had time he made the throw. The D had 2 blown assignments 🤣🤣

The offense will be better because the OL won't be getting beat like they did most of the Georgia game. We did what we had to to win that particular game. Not many QBs win that game but we got one of
Our dline played solid, they played FAR from lights out. Golden had so many well timed run blitzes called and the LBs, and safeties did unreal against the run. Yes the Dline made some huge plays against their awful LT. I'm not saying our front 4 played bad, but to say our front 4 was stuffing them is just untrue.
Just ridiculous moronic stuff
No… we had to blitz lbs more than we did all season

The dline played very gap sound, but did not win many battles other than against their LT.

I’m not trying to discredit the line, they played hard and better than I thought they would. But we blitzed almost every play. Many times bringing 2. Now, insane credit on being gap sound and not letting them bust runs. Georgia was vey gap sound against us other than qb runs, nd stopped Stockton running. Georgia interior was pushing back our ol, we were not doing ther to Georgia. Cross didn’t register a tackle.
Incorrect like usual
 
No… we had to blitz lbs more than we did all season

The dline played very gap sound, but did not win many battles other than against their LT.

I’m not trying to discredit the line, they played hard and better than I thought they would. But we blitzed almost every play. Many times bringing 2. Now, insane credit on being gap sound and not letting them bust runs. Georgia was vey gap sound against us other than qb runs, nd stopped Stockton running. Georgia interior was pushing back our ol, we were not doing ther to Georgia. Cross didn’t register a tackle.
I rarely chime in on these "debates". Georgia: 62 yards rushing.....10 in the first half with 3 points. 52 in the second half. One would think that their massive O line would have wore ND down in the second half to some degree. This was a stellar, elite defensive performance against the centerpiece of the SEC. What more can you ask of this defense, especially given the major depletion on the defensive side of the ball. Defensively.....this team is coached up and stepped up in a way that you don't see very often.
 
I rarely chime in on these "debates". Georgia: 62 yards rushing.....10 in the first half with 3 points. 52 in the second half. One would think that their massive O line would have wore ND down in the second half to some degree. This was a stellar, elite defensive performance against the centerpiece of the SEC. What more can you ask of this defense, especially given the major depletion on the defensive side of the ball. Defensively.....this team is coached up and stepped up in a way that you don't see very often.
I agree with everything you say. The Notre Dame defense was indeed phenomenal. That said, I thought the Georgia defense played just as well as the Notre Dame defense.
 
Nasty: “our dline sucked”

Georgia center: “they’re great great team w/ a bunch of dogs up front”

I’m trying hard to figure out which one to believe. 🤔
I never said they sucked and they did NOT suck, they just weren’t dominating like some believe

They played very sound, tough, physical, and did their job to let the lbs flourish
 
Lol been reading Driskell on Twitter, the guy is the biggest hack in the business. He will not concede the point -even despite all the evidence -- that Georgia has the more talented roster.

Yea ok Driskell, ND has the more athletic 85 man roster than the team with the 2nd highest graded roster in the country.

Georgia has 14 5 star players on their roster to Notre Dame's 1 five star

Georgia has another 15 players in the composite top 100 on top of that.

Almost half of Georgia's 85 man roster is composite top 100 talent. Georgia by any measure out there has absolutely dominated the recruiting rankings and talent rankings

If Notre Dame had that kind of talent under this coaching staff they would be unbeatable And they would certainly be more than a 1.5 point favorite versus PSU
 
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I never said they sucked and they did NOT suck, they just weren’t dominating like some believe

They played very sound, tough, physical, and did their job to let the lbs flourish
The ND DL had 3 sacks and 4 TFL

The GA DL had 0 sacks 0 TFL

The ND DL flourished
 
Lol been reading Driskell on Twitter, the guy is the biggest hack in the business. He will not concede the point -even despite all the evidence -- that Georgia has the more talented roster.

Yea ok Driskell, ND has the more athletic 85 man roster than the team with the 2nd highest graded roster in the country.

Georgia has 14 5 star players on their roster to Notre Dame's 1 five star

Georgia has another 15 players in the composite top 100 on top of that.

Almost half of Georgia's 85 man roster is composite top 100 talent. Georgia by any measure out there has absolutely dominated the recruiting rankings and talent rankings

If Notre Dame had that kind of talent under this coaching staff they would be unbeatable
There was no talent gap on the field. We were a physical if not more than Ga. And athletically we were right there with them.

If we were both healthy our roster was on par with them. Our roster is loaded
 
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I rarely chime in on these "debates". Georgia: 62 yards rushing.....10 in the first half with 3 points. 52 in the second half. One would think that their massive O line would have wore ND down in the second half to some degree. This was a stellar, elite defensive performance against the centerpiece of the SEC. What more can you ask of this defense, especially given the major depletion on the defensive side of the ball. Defensively.....this team is coached up and stepped up in a way that you don't see very often.

I also marvel at this. The GA OL is big, strong, and good. Big weight advantage vs the ND DL.

But the ND DL indeed held. Even thrived. I go back to athleticism, speed, and leverage often can overcome some size and weight advantage.

The ND D is for real. Depth. And as you said, a fighting spirit and grit to complement talent, which I haven't seen since the Holtz days.
 
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Lol been reading Driskell on Twitter, the guy is the biggest hack in the business. He will not concede the point -even despite all the evidence -- that Georgia has the more talented roster.

Yea ok Driskell, ND has the more athletic 85 man roster than the team with the 2nd highest graded roster in the country.

Georgia has 14 5 star players on their roster to Notre Dame's 1 five star

Georgia has another 15 players in the composite top 100 on top of that.

Almost half of Georgia's 85 man roster is composite top 100 talent. Georgia by any measure out there has absolutely dominated the recruiting rankings and talent rankings

If Notre Dame had that kind of talent under this coaching staff they would be unbeatable And they would certainly be more than a 1.5 point favorite versus PSU
Dont like Driskell his ego is beyond annoying but atleast he coached and played the sport. He can offer an educated opinion. You on the otherhand dont know sh!t about football and yet have the stupidity to claim you're the best "ND analyst around" Take a seat sport.
 
Lol been reading Driskell on Twitter, the guy is the biggest hack in the business. He will not concede the point -even despite all the evidence -- that Georgia has the more talented roster.

Yea ok Driskell, ND has the more athletic 85 man roster than the team with the 2nd highest graded roster in the country.

Georgia has 14 5 star players on their roster to Notre Dame's 1 five star

Georgia has another 15 players in the composite top 100 on top of that.

Almost half of Georgia's 85 man roster is composite top 100 talent. Georgia by any measure out there has absolutely dominated the recruiting rankings and talent rankings

If Notre Dame had that kind of talent under this coaching staff they would be unbeatable And they would certainly be more than a 1.5 point favorite versus PSU
Stats only gets you so far. Many of those 5 star athletes don't live up to their talent, where many 4 stars not only live up too, but develop into 5 star athletes. What you don't realize. You are so stuck in 5 stars it really makes you look dumb, because at the end of the day these are 17 and 18 year olds that still need to be developed.

Your comments about recruiting, NIL, and football in general show you are ILLITERATE and know NOTHING about the sport.
 
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Stats only gets you so far. Many of those 5 star athletes don't live up to their talent, where many 4 stars not only live up too, but develop into 5 star athletes. What you don't realize. You are so stuck in 5 stars it really makes you look dumb, because at the end of the day these are 17 and 18 year olds that still need to be developed.

You comments about recruiting, NIL, and football in general show you are ILLITERATE and know NOTHING about the sport.
Can you just make your case without the insults? I have thick enough skin where it doesn't bother me, but i'm more worried about how this makes the community look to new visitors/ potential posters who want to get involved in the discussion but dont want to be bullied for their opinions or called stupid, an idiot, a moron, or whatever else. The average age of posters here has got to be well over 50 -- is it too much to ask to act like it?

Star ratings are grades/evaluations of an athletes measurements, height, weight, speed, drill-times, strength, etc. (and their raw physical/athletic potential going forward) these evaluations/grades are earned over multiple years in camp, on film, etc. while prospects are 16-18 years old.

Good coaches are able to overcome lack of raw physical ability (e.g. jim harbaugh 2023 and marcus freeman 2024 and many others on a lesser scale) and develop the hell out of players fundamentals and maximize their skills, but from a raw physical material standpoint, there isn't much headroom. And players that do have a lot of athletic headroom going forward are awarded aggressive grades for it.

Georgia has an 85 man roster full of some of the rarest/scarcest athletes at their position out of HS: 30 players rated in top 100 composite, half of those the highest rated players at their position). Notre Dame has one player graded among the highest percentile.

With good scouting/evaluations/etc. ND has been able to find several diamonds in the ruff but in aggregate the collective difference in raw physical material between Georgia and Notre Dame are as far apart as it gets at the high P4 level.

It's just funny (sarcastically) and frankly really annoying to see Driskell foaming at the mouth, CONSTANTLY stating this idea that Notre Dame has the more talented roster, the more athletic roster, etc. which goes against all of the evidence/data on the topic. Its cringe inducing. To see someone state something so emphatically while having no clue whatsoever about what they are talking about.
 
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Dont like Driskell his ego is beyond annoying but atleast he coached and played the sport. He can offer an educated opinion. You on the otherhand dont know sh!t about football and yet have the stupidity to claim you're the best "ND analyst around" Take a seat sport.
You know nothing about me. Nothing whatsoever. Besides that fact, some of the best general managers (guys who analyze the leagues they are in, evaluate, forecast, invest millions in talent, etc.) never played organized sports. It's a different skill set entirely.
 
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Can you just make your case without the insults? I have thick enough skin where it doesn't bother me, but i'm more worried about how this makes the community look to new visitors/ potential posters who want to get involved in the discussion but dont want to be bullied for their opinions or called stupid, an idiot, a moron, or whatever else. The average age of posters here has got to be well over 50 -- is it too much to ask to act like it?

Star ratings are grades/evaluations of an athletes measurements, height, weight, speed, drill-times, strength, etc. (and their raw physical/athletic potential going forward) these evaluations/grades are earned over multiple years in camp, on film, etc. while prospects are 16-18 years old.

Good coaches are able to overcome lack of raw physical ability (e.g. jim harbaugh 2023 and marcus freeman 2024 and many others on a lesser scale) and develop the hell out of players fundamentals and maximize their skills, but from a raw physical material standpoint, there isn't much headroom. And players that do have a lot of athletic headroom going forward are awarded aggressive grades for it.

Georgia has an 85 man roster full of some of the rarest/scarcest athletes at their position out of HS: 30 players rated in top 100 composite, half of those the highest rated players at their position). Notre Dame has one player graded among the highest percentile.

With good scouting/evaluations/etc. ND has been able to find several diamonds in the ruff but in aggregate the collective difference in raw physical material between Georgia and Notre Dame are as far apart as it gets at the high P4 level.

It's just funny (sarcastically) and frankly really annoying to see Driskell foaming at the mouth, CONSTANTLY stating this idea that Notre Dame has the more talented roster, the more athletic roster, etc. which goes against all of the evidence/data on the topic. Its cringe inducing. To see someone state something so emphatically while having no clue whatsoever about what they are talking about.
because it's the truth. your incessant posts trashing and criticizing Notre Dame are unwarranted and it shows how little you know about sports. You're clueless really. I suggest you take up another hobby, and I'm being serious.
 
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You know nothing about me. Nothing whatsoever. Besides that fact, some of the best general managers (guys who analyze the leagues they are in, evaluate, forecast, invest millions in talent, etc.) never played organized sports. It's a different skill set entirely.
Are you looking for work with f+?
 
because it's the truth. your incessant posts trashing and criticizing Notre Dame are unwarranted and it shows how little you know about sports. You're clueless really. I suggest you take up another hobby, and I'm being serious.
Well stated.
 
because it's the truth. your incessant posts trashing and criticizing Notre Dame are unwarranted and it shows how little you know about sports. You're clueless really. I suggest you take up another hobby, and I'm being serious.
criticizing notre dame? yes with copious amounts of available data and evidence -- the criticism has been warranted. ND has been performing substandard for 3-4 decades.

ND fans opinion of the football team -- based on endless propaganda, PR, bias, etc. -- has been miles away from reality. Funny enough I think im doing a 'service' to the community by seemingly being the only voice of reason. unfortunately what ive learned posting here over the years is that people dont want to live in reality -- this is a very scary part of humanity that i can't relate to in any way whatsoever. But my posts are for those who do want to live in reality.

"trashing notre dame" is something else entirely. Where's your evidence?
 
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You know nothing about me. Nothing whatsoever. Besides that fact, some of the best general managers (guys who analyze the leagues they are in, evaluate, forecast, invest millions in talent, etc.) never played organized sports. It's a different skill set entirely.
You've been running your mouth for years on here. You cant breakdown tape, scheme and dont have any coaching or playing background to know what you are watching at an educated football level and cant offer any analysis and you cant evaluate talent. You copy & paste what someone else wrote and cite as your homework. Atleast ive played, scouted, gameplanned (albeit at the highschool level) and ive never claimed to be expert like you have or would never claim to know more than posters like echo who have played D1. You're a little sh!t & my honest guess is you're a troll that has no life and this is how you get your kicks.
 
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