Football is the cash cow for media rights, and ND football isn't part of the ACC's GOR, the rest of its sports programs are. So how much do you believe Basketball and the rest of the sports are worth when it comes to media rights? It pales in comparison to football. if it came down to it, ND's payout would be significantly lower compared to full members of the ACC.
It's not the same legal situation as Maryland, Texas and Oklahoma. All of those schools had exit fees established in their conference contracts. None of them had a clause that said "If we join a conference, it will be the ACC."
Notre Dame football is excluded from the GoR, because ND football has their own media rights deal as an independent.
You continue to ignore the contractual requirement that if ND joins a conference prior to 2037, it will be the ACC. There are three different aspects to the ND-ACC contract:
This poster continues to act like he knows all the answers. He doesn't.
Dude, we're going to have two super conferences and a 'super league', and the sport of CFB will be completely re-ordered in like, 18 months. Why do you keep harping on the year 2037, you troll?
2037 is when the ACC GOR expires. I'm not trolling, the problem is your lack of understanding. Yes, we're going to have two super conferences and a 'super league', and the sport of CFB will be completely re-ordered in the next couple of years. Thanks to Swarbrick, ND is locked into a GOR for all sports except football until 2037 and the Irish also have a contractual obligation to join no conference other than the ACC until 2037.
You're clearly a troll, there isn't even going to be an ACC in two or three years, let alone 13 years. And you're not a Purdue fan, I figure you're a weirdo ND fan posing as a Purdue fan, and masturbating over this talking point that you're leg humping for some reason, that we're stuck with the ACC until way past the cows come home, repeating the same tedious phrases and argument with some sort of autistic glee.
An article a year ago. "based on Swarbrick’s recent public statements, Notre Dame would be as likely to pursue membership in the Big Ten as adhere to the written agreement that if Notre Dame joins a football conference it has to be the ACC. And as a 20 percent partner in the ACC, the math is a lot easier for Notre Dame to wriggle out of the grant of rights long before 2036 than it is anyone else.
They have people for that.
before you repeat yourself another ten times, find an example of when 3. has ever happened. When was a school forced to join a conference against its will?
ND isn't being forced to join any conference. The contract says that IF ND voluntarily joins a conference, it will be the ACC.
I have two doctorates from Purdue, both fully funded by the US Army. I had a collective eleven years payback time to the Army.
That contract will be broken and a fee will be negotiated. Who cares anyway, ND is not joining a conference anytime soon. Why should they? They have access to the playoff, they can negotiate their own media rights deals, and can create their own schedule, playing teams from each of the P4 conferences.
Thank you for the civil tone of your comments.
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Well then why are you doing this? ND is not going to be chained to the ACC until 2037. We have FSU and Clemson fixing to leave and join the SEC next year. Let alone the looming prospect of an impending super league, to be instituted and got going way sooner than 13 years from now, and which would radically change everything. It's not a substantive talking point to keep hammering home on a ND message board. With such intransigence shall we say. It's what a troll would do. Even if you are a real Purdue fan and not a disgruntled ND fan in disguise.
ND is indeed chained to the ACC until 2037. And you're wrong, FSU and Clemson aren't going anywhere (link).
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OK great, give it a rest. you are full of $hit by the wayND is indeed chained to the ACC until 2037. And you're wrong, FSU and Clemson aren't going anywhere (link).
I'm not 'hammering home' about a super league. There are some in deep denial that ND is in a legal contract until 2037 that includes a GOR and a contractual obligation to join the ACC if ND joins a conference. No school has ever invalidated a GOR to include FSU and Clemson. With all of the realignment of the past 15 years, those schools who moved either had no GOR or they awaited a GOR window before leaving.
Sources: ACC exploring new revenue structure to resolve Florida State, Clemson lawsuits
The conference’s presidents recently examined a proposal that would distribute revenue differently to conference members in a move to provide stability and preserve its current membership.
You're still doing it. Nothing is going to stop ND, or Clemson or anyone if they want to leave, and be in some other conference yet to be determined. Well maybe like, NC State would just stay. Nobody cares about them, they don't want to hassle with some negotiated exit. But ND is not going to be held back by such circumstances, and you just keep insisting that yes they will, that it's set in stone, ironclad, utterly outside of their reach. Chained to the ACC! And it's definitely not.ND is indeed chained to the ACC until 2037. And you're wrong, FSU and Clemson aren't going anywhere (link).
I'm not 'hammering home' about a super league. There are some in deep denial that ND is in a legal contract until 2037 that includes a GOR and a contractual obligation to join the ACC if ND joins a conference. No school has ever invalidated a GOR to include FSU and Clemson. With all of the realignment of the past 15 years, those schools who moved either had no GOR or they awaited a GOR window before leaving.
Sources: ACC exploring new revenue structure to resolve Florida State, Clemson lawsuits
The conference’s presidents recently examined a proposal that would distribute revenue differently to conference members in a move to provide stability and preserve its current membership.
No federal marshals. ND would be sued by the ACC, and given the value of ND to the TV contracts via the Grant of Rights, the liability would be huge. ESPN pays the ACC based upon the games that have been guaranteed to them by the GOR. With ND 's 2-3 football games and all Olympic sports out of the equation, ACC sports are worth considerably less.
Yeah, they would get sued, and no cops. Unless they came to seize the golden dome, because that's how badly ND was sued. Mainly they would just work out a deal is my assumption in the event of an existential need to leave the ACC. That's typically how it goes, I don't know what it is about GOR deals that would put them beyond the reach of the usual expedients. And ND would not simply watch their storied football program languish and disintegrate as the super league marches on without them, while they rot in a deemphasized ACC.
Do you understand how POed that Duke, Pitt, GT et al would be after groveling to this goofy ND-without -football deal and then having it shoved up their collective anuses because ND reneged on its promise to join the ACC?
Which does not really change the question; when has a school been forced to join one conference (over another they prefer if you will) because of a contractual clause?
Mr. Know It All strikes again. He always thinks he has every answer to every question. He is wrong.ND is indeed chained to the ACC until 2037. And you're wrong, FSU and Clemson aren't going anywhere (link).
I'm not 'hammering home' about a super league. There are some in deep denial that ND is in a legal contract until 2037 that includes a GOR and a contractual obligation to join the ACC if ND joins a conference. No school has ever invalidated a GOR to include FSU and Clemson. With all of the realignment of the past 15 years, those schools who moved either had no GOR or they awaited a GOR window before leaving.
Sources: ACC exploring new revenue structure to resolve Florida State, Clemson lawsuits
The conference’s presidents recently examined a proposal that would distribute revenue differently to conference members in a move to provide stability and preserve its current membership.
Actually I don't. I would have no idea, and wouldn't presume to even guess. I would venture to say they wouldn't be terribly surprised. This is ND we're talking about. We can't be waddling around the ACC when the big bad super league comes calling. Which definitely is going to happen fairly quickly. This is not just academic. Apparently Jack Swarbrick himself was heavily involved in some sort of preliminary, exploratory discussions for a full-blown super league, to be owned and operated by a private equity outfit no less. Which sounds lovely.
Well, that may happen. Because we already know that USC has dumped ND as an annual rival.
