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ND Administration is A Joke

Sounds like talks might still be happening behind scenes about buyout

Nd should be sending big offer to yurcich or similar

Our offense is set up to be lights out with right coaching staff
 
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No matter what info now comes out, the PR on this issue is pretty poor. Notre Dame should do better.
Agree regarding the PR. Where I disagree is the finger pointing at the ND Admin that they are 100% to blame.
 
What an embarassment. What a joke. Pathetic

Feel bad for MF. Now I think he'd leave if given the oppurtunity

Unbelievable
The HC is the CEO/COO, it’s his responsibility to select his coaches and nobody else’s.
 
Agree regarding the PR. Where I disagree is the finger pointing at the ND Admin that they are 100% to blame.
You don’t screw up this bad without many many multi millionaires screwing up and not being aligned most likely due to ego and nothing involving NDs best interests

A screw up and correction is figuring out how to get Ludwig still, or getting yurcich or Lewis…. There are other options as well but not as obvious.. all this should be done by Saturday if nd has a pulse towards winning

If we get no good OC and freeman had no control/major input his agent should be on the horn, I don’t think this is the case, I think freeman struggles not having major connections and not having been through process like this anywhere other than his own
 
You don’t screw up this bad without many many multi millionaires screwing up and not being aligned most likely due to ego and nothing involving NDs best interests

A screw up and correction is figuring out how to get Ludwig still, or getting yurcich or Lewis…. There are other options as well but not as obvious.. all this should be done by Saturday if nd has a pulse towards winning

If we get no good OC and freeman had no control/major input his agent should be on the horn, I don’t think this is the case, I think freeman struggles not having major connections and not having been through process like this anywhere other than his own
Bullshit. These types of negotiations any number of things could have happened. All anyone has is speculation.
 
No. ND likes to hoard its' money. Jenkins is happy with 9-4 seasons as long as $$$ come rolling in still.
You don’t know what you’re talking about !

Stop making a fool of yourself by pretending that you know the details of what transpired
 
Bullshit. These types of negotiations any number of things could have happened. All anyone has is speculation.
Agree but it shouldn’t stop us from landing a stud asap … only nd can
 
Did Georgia land a stud ?

They landed a guy who had been an OC there and they won zero.
 
You don’t screw up this bad without many many multi millionaires screwing up and not being aligned most likely due to ego and nothing involving NDs best interests

A screw up and correction is figuring out how to get Ludwig still, or getting yurcich or Lewis…. There are other options as well but not as obvious.. all this should be done by Saturday if nd has a pulse towards winning

If we get no good OC and freeman had no control/major input his agent should be on the horn, I don’t think this is the case, I think freeman struggles not having major connections and not having been through process like this anywhere other than his own
Yurcich is not an option at this time.
 
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The HC is the CEO/COO, it’s his responsibility to select his coaches and nobody else’s.
Yep.

He selected his guy.

When it came to getting it done, the admin F'ed it up

They are being shamed pretty bad right now. Maybe this will be a wakeup call but doubt it
 
Agree but it shouldn’t stop us from landing a stud asap … only nd can
He did. He wasnt allowed to get his guy.

This problem could come up again if another guy He chooses has a large buyout. Hes being handcuffed again by the powers at ND
 
He did. He wasnt allowed to get his guy.

This problem could come up again if another guy He chooses has a large buyout. Hes being handcuffed again by the powers at ND
Either the powers improve and get it right or freeman should demand it publicly…. If he demands it publicly he would become untouchable because the fan base would back him to another level
 
I don’t know what transpired but I know it’s embarrassing for ND.

ND appears extremely disorganized at the moment. No OC, no OL coach, no apparent plan since Ludwig fell through.

ND has been historically cheap, which is ironic for a university that preaches giving. Like him or not, Urban Meyer wanted to come to ND but ended up at UF because they offered double, yes double what ND offered him. They told UM, ND is more than money, they refused training tables, and additional monies for coordinators. I remember thinking of the arrogance of these fools.

The ND admin is the singular obstacle in ND being a true FB power IMO.
 
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Either the powers improve and get it right or freeman should demand it publicly…. If he demands it publicly he would become untouchable because the fan base would back him to another level
Because they care about us, lol
 
Because they care about us, lol
I think the board/decision makers are on a slippery slope with a lot of what kelly stated and what has transpired recently. I think if Freeman came out and made a statement almost similar to Day telling ohio state he needs $13M a year minimum for NIl, that they either would do something or decide finally ND isn't trying to compete. I agree with not paying ludwig/utah $6M for a year as i'd put that money into another top OC or better one, and then secure the staff members you want to be there longer. I don't trust that ND will do that though, and freeman should make it clear if it's not being done publicly. He needs to not be so nice if he wants to really win a championship at ND, and I think he does!
 
Bullcrap. If you think he is the guy, you pay him. We are way too cheap when we have more money than anyone.

You are completely wrong here. Alabama has like 25 analysts alone. They pay big $ to their staffs.

We dont. Period. You're wrong
It's being reported that the ad office (powlus has been hinted at) got an old copy of Ludwig's contract which had A 400k buyout. Everything that happened was based on that information and is why it was an issue later.
 
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It's being reported that the ad office (powlus has been hinted at) got an old copy of Ludwig's contract which had A 400k buyout. Everything that happened was based on that information and is why it was an issue later.
I said that last night....people are doubting it. I am not
 
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40 billion dollar endowment and 3 + billion dollar football program but can't fork over 2 million for an offensive coordinator.

Unfvckingbelievable.
$5-6M, and that is unheard of for an OC, if he was willing to leave Utah he NEVER would have allowed that in his contract because it isn't that high anywhere for an OC
 
$5-6M, and that is unheard of for an OC, if he was willing to leave Utah he NEVER would have allowed that in his contract because it isn't that high anywhere for an OC
You use the money that you should have got for Rees' buyout and you have extra money because MF is making less than BK would have the last 2 years.

Plus they could have asked donors for the money and could have had it by the end of the day.

ND doesn't want to play with the big boys. Period. Cheap cheap cheap
 
You use the money that you should have got for Rees' buyout and you have extra money because MF is making less than BK would have the last 2 years.

Plus they could have asked donors for the money and could have had it by the end of the day.

ND doesn't want to play with the big boys. Period. Cheap cheap cheap
Money isn’t the issue but you can’t set a new precedent because it trickles down to all coaches. If Rees had a buyout at nd it was tiny.

How much did freeman make a DC in 21? Enough to come here over lsu and they were offering $2.5

Nd is willing to pay but not significantly overpay

I’m more disappointed in the process and if they settle
 
Money isn’t the issue but you can’t set a new precedent because it trickles down to all coaches. If Rees had a buyout at nd it was tiny.

How much did freeman make a DC in 21? Enough to come here over lsu and they were offering $2.5

Nd is willing to pay but not significantly overpay

I’m more disappointed in the process and if they settle
Why was it little then? Who does that fall on?

Same problem. Starts at the top and it's a mess up there

Why would a legit OC want to cone here. The AD is trying to play coach.
 
I am excited. Two fairly young coaches getting their shot. Freeman knows both well. Let's go!
 
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True. They take “donations”. Last I was there I dropped a $10. Probably went to some rich admin.
 
Yep.

He selected his guy.

When it came to getting it done, the admin F'ed it up

They are being shamed pretty bad right now. Maybe this will be a wakeup call but doubt it
How do you know that the administration fooked up ?

Tell us the details of exactly what transpired between the administration and Ludwig
 
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I don’t know what transpired but I know it’s embarrassing for ND.

ND appears extremely disorganized at the moment. No OC, no OL coach, no apparent plan since Ludwig fell through.

ND has been historically cheap, which is ironic for a university that preaches giving. Like him or not, Urban Meyer wanted to come to ND but ended up at UF because they offered double, yes double what ND offered him. They told UM, ND is more than money, they refused training tables, and additional monies for coordinators. I remember thinking of the arrogance of these fools.

The ND admin is the singular obstacle in ND being a true FB power IMO.
How has ND been “historically cheap” ?

Please cite 5 Incidents

Thanks
 
You use the money that you should have got for Rees' buyout and you have extra money because MF is making less than BK would have the last 2 years.

Plus they could have asked donors for the money and could have had it by the end of the day.

ND doesn't want to play with the big boys. Period. Cheap cheap cheap
How do you know that Rees had a buy-out ?

How do you know the length and terms of Rees’s contract ?

If Rees had a buy-out, Alabama would have had to pay it, wouldn’t they !
But there was no buy-out, so tell us again how ND could have used Rees’s buy-out money, money that doesn’t exist, except in your near empty head.

Oh, that’s how ND does things, they just ask donors to pony up when they need to hire or fire a coach ?

As usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about !
 
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