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Michael Mayer Declares For NFL Draft.

This is why you're not making 7-million a year doing what major CFB head coaches do. Until you are in their shoes, why judge?
Commitment, character and integrity are universals and I don’t need to be a coach to recognize either
 
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And I support Jarrett Paterson for finishing what he started and being there for his team, and teammates
Great. I simply hope a Jaylon Smith injury does not happen to Jarrett Patterson.

But when it is not your money, who cares, correct?
 
Commitment and integrity are universals and I don’t need to be a coach to recognize either
You, and others like you, pontificating to these players what they should do with their physical and financial futures is simply something I will not be a part of.

Someone like a Michael Mayer making a conscious choice to protect his financial future and not play against South Carolina, and that decision being criticized by some here as selfish and not being a team player, is laughable.
 
You, and others like you, pontificating to these players what they should do with their physical and financial futures is simply something I will not be a part of.

Someone like a Michael Mayer making a conscious choice to protect his financial future and not play against South Carolina, and that decision being criticized by some here as selfish and not being a team player, is laughable.
That's your opinion. It's a message board everyone is entitled to their opinion, no more than you and no less. To think otherwise is what's laughable. Funny how everytime it's discussed, Jaylon is the one example given. ND has had hundreds of NFL players over the years, yet there is ever only offered one example. Jerome Bettis didn't sit out, RIck Mirer didn't sit out, Brady Quinn didn't sit out, Tim Brown, Joe Montana and on and on and on. Funny that it meant something to compete one more time for our school and their teammates.
 
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It’s cfp or bust for top players, simple as that. It will be interesting to see when it goes to 12 teams what happens with the top players.
 
That's your opinion. It's a message board everyone is entitled to their opinion, no more than you and no less. To think otherwise is what's laughable. Funny how everytime it's discussed, Jaylon is the one example given. ND has had hundreds of NFL players over the years, yet there is ever only offered one example. Jerome Bettis didn't sit out, RIck Mirer didn't sit out, Brady Quinn didn't sit out, Tim Brown, Joe Montana and on and on and on. Funny that it meant something to compete one more time for our school and their teammates.
Your examples of 15-25-35-45 years ago are simply not relevant today because the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ has significantly risen. If someone like a Jarrett Patterson, Q, or a Mike McGlinchey decide to play, wonderful. That said, Kyle Hamilton decided to protect his financial future, not play against Oklahoma State last season, then was drafted mid-Round 1 and signed a guaranteed 16.3 million dollar contract.

How anyone can find fault with that makes me SMH.
 
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You, and others like you, pontificating to these players what they should do with their physical and financial futures is simply something I will not be a part of.

Someone like a Michael Mayer making a conscious choice to protect his financial future and not play against South Carolina, and that decision being criticized by some here as selfish and not being a team player, is laughable.
It is selfish, it’s an abandonment of his teammates and coaches.

As to the financial aspect, you can buy adequate insurance from Lloyds of London, thus protecting you from the impact of an injury
 
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Your examples of 15-25-35-45 years ago are simply not relevant today because the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ has significantly risen. If someone like a Jarrett Patterson, Q, or a Mike McGlinchey decide to play, wonderful. That said, Kyle Hamilton decided to protect his financial future, not play against Oklahoma State last season, then was drafted mid-Round 1 and signed a guaranteed 16.3 million dollar contract.

How anyone can find fault with that makes me SMH.
He could have purchased insurance from Lloyds of London, thus mitigating a potential injury
 
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Your examples of 15-25-35-45 years ago are simply not relevant today because the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ has significantly risen. If someone like a Jarrett Patterson, Q, or a Mike McGlinchey decide to play, wonderful. That said, Kyle Hamilton decided to protect his financial future, not play against Oklahoma State last season, then was drafted mid-Round 1 and signed a guaranteed 16.3 million dollar contract.

How anyone can find fault with that makes me SMH.
It is relevant today.

You just don’t or can’t understand historical context !
 
It is selfish, it’s an abandonment of his teammates and coaches.

As to the financial aspect, you can buy adequate insurance from Lloyds of London, thus protecting you from the impact of an injury
The only thing here that is "selfish..." is you and others like you telling Michael Mayer how he should live his professional life.

"Hey, take out insurance...."

LMFAO.
 
The only thing here that is "selfish..." is you and others like you telling Michael Mayer how he should live his professional life.

"Hey, take out insurance...."

LMFAO.
When you can mitigate the risk by insuring against an injury, why not play

So you don’t have a problem with a player sitting out the last two games of the regular season ?

The last 3 ?

The last 4 ?
 
When you can mitigate the risk by insuring against an injury, why not play

So you don’t have a problem with a player sitting out the last two games of the regular season ?

The last 3 ?

The last 4 ?
"Hey, take out insurance."
 
Your examples of 15-25-35-45 years ago are simply not relevant today because the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ has significantly risen. If someone like a Jarrett Patterson, Q, or a Mike McGlinchey decide to play, wonderful. That said, Kyle Hamilton decided to protect his financial future, not play against Oklahoma State last season, then was drafted mid-Round 1 and signed a guaranteed 16.3 million dollar contract.

How anyone can find fault with that makes me SMH.
You still only list one player, only one, as your example of injury, as far back as you wanna go. Dude, you think what you want, your entitled. I completely disagree, I'm entitled as well
 
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That's your opinion. It's a message board everyone is entitled to their opinion, no more than you and no less. To think otherwise is what's laughable. Funny how everytime it's discussed, Jaylon is the one example given. ND has had hundreds of NFL players over the years, yet there is ever only offered one example. Jerome Bettis didn't sit out, RIck Mirer didn't sit out, Brady Quinn didn't sit out, Tim Brown, Joe Montana and on and on and on. Funny that it meant something to compete one more time for our school and their teammates.

Your examples of 15-25-35-45 years ago are simply not relevant today because the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ has significantly risen. If someone like a Jarrett Patterson, Q, or a Mike McGlinchey decide to play, wonderful. That said, Kyle Hamilton decided to protect his financial future, not play against Oklahoma State last season, then was drafted mid-Round 1 and signed a guaranteed 16.3 million dollar contract.

How anyone can find fault with that makes me SMH.
I think it's more about the number of games and the sum total of all of the hours spent on football. In the traditional college football that built the legacies, the player practiced for 3 hours, less on Friday. Starting in mid-september they played a ten game season. After that the AP voted on who had the best season and declared that team the national champion. A bowl was considered a reward for the teams that had a good season.


Of course none of that is true anymore. For now a bowl game is just more work tacked on their job. I can totally understand why players are not interested.
 
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I think it's more about the number of games and the sum total of all of the hours spent on football. In the traditional college football that built the legacies, the player practiced for 3 hours, less on Friday. Starting in mid-september they played a ten game season. After that the AP voted on who had the best season and declared that team the national champion. A bowl was considered a reward for the teams that had a good season.


Of course none of that is true anymore. For now a bowl game is just more work tacked on their job. I can totally understand why players are not interested.
Opinions are always welcomed.
 
Mayer could have had a career ending or altering injury in game 1 this year. Or games 2,3,4 and so on. Why all of a sudden are you up in arms about him quitting the season for the bowl game? If he is going to sit out because he’s scared of injury in a bowl game, he should’ve sat out the whole season. He’s quitting on his teammates, coaches, alumni and fans. ND but him in position to make a lot of money in the NFL and he and others are turning their backs. Disappointing!
 
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Mayer could have had a career ending or altering injury in game 1 this year. Or games 2,3,4 and so on. Why all of a sudden are you up in arms about him quitting the season for the bowl game? If he is going to sit out because he’s scared of injury in a bowl game, he should’ve sat out the whole season. He’s quitting on his teammates, coaches, alumni and fans. ND but him in position to make a lot of money in the NFL and he and others are turning their backs. Disappointing!
I supported Kyle Hamilton last season, and I 100% support Michael Mayer this season.

Good for them, and Thank You to both.
 
I supported Kyle Hamilton last season, and I 100% support Michael Mayer this season.

Good for them, and Thank You to both.
You deliberately avoided answering my question!

Is it okay with you if a player decides to not play in the last 2 games of the season ?

The last 3 games ?

The last 4 games ?
 
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You deliberately avoided answering my question!

Is it okay with you if a player decides to not play in the last 2 games of the season ?

The last 3 games ?

The last 4 games ?
"Hey, take out insurance."

LMFAO.
 
Why are you afraid to answer my questions ?

Don‘t be a coward, answer the questions !

Thanks
"Hey Michael Mayer, take out insurance and play the bowl game."

It's not my future, so who cares, right?
 
"Hey Michael Mayer, take out insurance and play the bowl game."

It's not my future, so who cares, right?
You’re a fraud and a coward !

You’re afraid to answer my questions because you know that your answers will contradict your narrative.

You’re a fraud and a coward !
 
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The only thing here that is "selfish..." is you and others like you telling Michael Mayer how he should live his professional life.

"Hey, take out insurance...."

LMFAO.

ND could offer him single game insurance. If Mayer gets hurt, he collects $10 million.

But the school doesn't care enough about him playing to offer such a deal.
 
You’re a fraud and a coward !

You’re afraid to answer my questions because you know that your answers will contradict your narrative.

You’re a fraud and a coward !
It's not your financial future, why should you care, correct?

Like you said, "Hey Michael Mayer, take out insurance..." and play against South Carolina.
 
ND could offer him single game insurance. If Mayer gets hurt, he collects $10 million.

But the school doesn't care enough about him playing to offer such a deal.
Hmmm... they care enough about him to not cancel his scholarship for this year in spite of the fact that he is making himself not available to play in all their games.

I just love it when people think they can read the minds of others and arrive and conclusions in spite of evidence to the contrary.
 
Hmmm... they care enough about him to not cancel his scholarship for this year in spite of the fact that he is making himself not available to play in all their games.

I just love it when people think they can read the minds of others and arrive and conclusions in spite of evidence to the contrary.
It's not your financial future, why should you care.
 
I don't blame any of these kids from declaring and skipping the bowl games. Aside from the playoff games, the bowls are just money making exhibitions with little to no value.
 
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I don't blame any of these kids from declaring and skipping the bowl games. Aside from the playoff games, the bowls are just money making exhibitions with little to no value.
Most rational people have zero, again, zero problem with Michael Mayer skipping the bowl game.

I read Utah will have 60,000 fans at the Rose Bowl in so. California. Tell them the Rose Bowl has no value.
 
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Mayer could have had a career ending or altering injury in game 1 this year. Or games 2,3,4 and so on. Why all of a sudden are you up in arms about him quitting the season for the bowl game? If he is going to sit out because he’s scared of injury in a bowl game, he should’ve sat out the whole season. He’s quitting on his teammates, coaches, alumni and fans. ND but him in position to make a lot of money in the NFL and he and others are turning their backs. Disappointing!
BS BS BS, the bowl game is meaningless thats why!!!!!!!!! Its playoff or bust.
 
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