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Iowa State was tough in every game.

Did ND get up for LSU in 2014 & 2017? ND stands 4-1 in minor bowls under BK. They'll be ready for Iowa State on the 28th. 8th best bowl game this season according to CBS.
 
It should be a good game. ISU, having played both Oklahoma and Baylor very tough (and beat Texas as well), is not a typical 7-5 team. But we've played well in minor bowls under Kelly, so I'm optimistic we'll play well.
Yeah thats something to be proud of (Playing well in minor bowls under bk).
 
I have zero quarrel with anyone in this debate, but I take issue with you constantly throwing that you're an ND alum in posters faces as if your opinion is suppose to somehow mean more because of it. I would say it's safe to assume that Notre Dames following is made up of an overwhelming majority of people who did not attend ND and would also assume that the number of fans in our fan base that aren't alum are far more in comparison to other programs. (Meaning our subway alums far our number any other program). So really why throw it around as many times as you do unless you're trying to gloat? In no way shape or form should that ever come up in a conversation about whether someone agrees with a post or not. F/+ is awful and I'm sorry you like it. It's not closed minded to study and then make a decision based on findings is it? @Golson5 has debunked this several times with facts that neither you or chase want to admit are, in fact a nail in this coffin.

Like I said, zero quarrel with you but it irritates the heck outta me how many times you've used your alum status as some measuring point for fandom and knowledge to come across as more "open minded" or in some way more aware. If you have done research on this f plus stuff and you still think it's valid, then that should pretty much some up what your football IQ is. And for those of us that disagree, it doesn't make us "close minded" in the slightest.
He probably has a degree in "Arts and Letters"
 
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If Georgia played in the big 12 their offense would look better too[/QUOTE

Everyone needs to take offensive Big 12 stats in context. It's the "Defense Optional" conference. Check out Purdy's 4th quarter stats to get a feeling for how he does in close games.
 
A lot of excuse making for Matt Campbell here. He did an okay job this year at best. He didn’t win 7 games with 3 win talent. He probably won 7 games with 9 or 10 win talent. They did not live up to expectations.
 
“some teams just go through the motions in the bowls (UGA in’18)”

Gotta love when the supposed superior SEC teams get beat in bowls, it automatically gets swept under the rug w/ the “they didn’t care” BS. The default excuse for the chosen programs.

Georgia came in amped to prove the committee got it wrong & Texas waxed their asses. That “going through the motions“ excuse is old & tired.
 
“some teams just go through the motions in the bowls (UGA in’18)”

Gotta love when the supposed superior SEC teams get beat in bowls, it automatically gets swept under the rug w/ the “they didn’t care” BS. The default excuse for the chosen programs.

Georgia came in amped to prove the committee got it wrong & Texas waxed their asses. That “going through the motions“ excuse is old & tired.
Baylor is going to do the same thing this year.
 
Id like ND under BK to be competitive and maybe win one in "big boy" games, not just beat mediocre teams in minor bowls.

In fairness, the 3 major bowls he lost in - those were really good teams. 2012 Bama, 2018 Clemson and 2015 Ohio State were 3 of the most talented teams of the last decade. All 3 were stocked with NFL talent. We were overmatched to those three, unfortunately.

On the bright side, 2 of his bowl wins were over LSU.
 
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He is only a sophomore, he plays young at times. As far as pure talent, Purdy is better than Book.

Purdy isn’t as talented as his stats might indicate. He’s got pinpoint accuracy when he has time to throw and can extend plays with his feet, but he has a noodle arm, is a turnover machine, and sprays throws all over the field when he is pressured. His stats are more a product of the god awful defenses in the Big XII.
 
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In fairness, the 3 major bowls he lost in - those were really good teams. 2012 Bama, 2018 Clemson and 2015 Ohio State were 3 of the most talented teams of the last decade. All 3 were stocked with NFL talent. We were overmatched to those three, unfortunately.

On the bright side, 2 of his bowl wins were over LSU.
I said at least be competitive. It wasn't even close. BK had three weeks to prepare his team in all these games and he layed a big fat egg.
 
Purdy isn’t as talented as his stats might indicate. He’s got pinpoint accuracy when he has time to throw and can extend plays with his feet, but he has a noodle arm, is a turnover machine, and sprays throws all over the field when he is pressured. His stats are more a product of the god awful defenses in the Big XII.

He's talented.
 
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Matt Campbell maximizes what he has at Iowa State, which isn’t much. Good coach, prepared team that doesn’t get blown out. ND should win on “talent” alone, but there’s a reason they play the game.

Iowa State hasn’t been blown out all year, why would they start in a neutral field game?
Absolutely
 
Although they do more with less, ISU only defeated one team with a winning record. No excuses - a prepared ND team wins big.

These nailbiters against Iowa have gotta be agonizing. ND hasn't had a really close one against UM or SC in a while.
 
Purdy isn’t as talented as his stats might indicate. He’s got pinpoint accuracy when he has time to throw and can extend plays with his feet, but he has a noodle arm, is a turnover machine, and sprays throws all over the field when he is pressured. His stats are more a product of the god awful defenses in the Big XII.

Just like it was with Mahomes and Mayfield..

Might be the most overstated narrative in CFB, imo. How do the yards-per-play stats hold up for B12 teams compared to other conferences?
 
Purdy isn’t as talented as his stats might indicate. He’s got pinpoint accuracy when he has time to throw and can extend plays with his feet, but he has a noodle arm, is a turnover machine, and sprays throws all over the field when he is pressured. His stats are more a product of the god awful defenses in the Big XII.

Like that god awful defense that held iowa to 18 points?
 
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Did ND get up for LSU in 2014 & 2017? ND stands 4-1 in minor bowls under BK. They'll be ready for Iowa State on the 28th. 8th best bowl game this season according to CBS.

I don’t think ND has not faced a higher ranked team in any of those games.
 
Like that god awful defense that held iowa to 18 points?
In a game delayed twice by bad weather... you really think the offenses were going to flourish?

Iowa played well enough to win. It's a Ferentz thing.
 
But that QB tends to get the "yips" in tight games. Had some horrible stats in the 4th quarter this season.
ISU was a lucky bounce away from losing to FCS Northern Iowa when their "all world" QB fumbled the ball on 4th down and then recovered it on the 1 yard line after a scrum for a first and goal in the 3rd OT. Without that lucky bounce, they'd be 6-6. Don't get me wrong, they play to the level of their competition, so expect them to play well against ND, but if your team takes them seriously they'll only keep it close for 3 quarters. Underestimate them, and they'll take it right down to the wire, and then blame the officials for the loss.
 
In a game delayed twice by bad weather... you really think the offenses were going to flourish?

Iowa played well enough to win. It's a Ferentz thing.
ISU averaged 6.3 yds/play against Iowa while Iowa averaged 3.3 yds/play. It took a late holding call(only one in the game)on ISU to offset the most obvious PI to stop the Clones from kicking the game winning fg. B10 refs bailed out the hawks. BTW, in the 500 games over the last 10 years with such a yards per play disparity, the team with the lower output was 1-499. That is a .2% chance of winning for math majors. The hawks were pushed around the field. There sure is irony that hawk fans would come and post concerning a game they are no part of.....funny to say the least
 
ISU averaged 6.3 yds/play against Iowa while Iowa averaged 3.3 yds/play. It took a late holding call(only one in the game)on ISU to offset the most obvious PI to stop the Clones from kicking the game winning fg. B10 refs bailed out the hawks. BTW, in the 500 games over the last 10 years with such a yards per play disparity, the team with the lower output was 1-499. That is a .2% chance of winning for math majors. The hawks were pushed around the field. There sure is irony that hawk fans would come and post concerning a game they are no part of.....funny to say the least
"Kinky" made a reference to the Iowa game and I responded. Making claims of total yardage advantage or TOP or any other metric is an excuse when you lose the game.

ISU lost to Iowa because of shaky QB play in the 4th quarter and sloppy special teams play. Pretty simple explanation. The ISU QB would have won the Heisman if games were over by halftime.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
"Kinky" made a reference to the Iowa game and I responded. Making claims of total yardage advantage or TOP or any other metric is an excuse when you lose the game.

ISU lost to Iowa because of shaky QB play in the 4th quarter and sloppy special teams play. Pretty simple explanation. The ISU QB would have won the Heisman if games were over by halftime.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
B.S. it is as simple as the late fantom hold. Clones take responsibility for it even coming to that point because they pushed Iowa around the field.
 
ISU averaged 6.3 yds/play against Iowa while Iowa averaged 3.3 yds/play. It took a late holding call(only one in the game)on ISU to offset the most obvious PI to stop the Clones from kicking the game winning fg. B10 refs bailed out the hawks. BTW, in the 500 games over the last 10 years with such a yards per play disparity, the team with the lower output was 1-499. That is a .2% chance of winning for math majors. The hawks were pushed around the field. There sure is irony that hawk fans would come and post concerning a game they are no part of.....funny to say the least

We love efficiency ratings around here That YPP vs points must render you quite inefficient. Also it seems ISU has a habit of losing to Iowa by weird scores like 11-10
 
We love efficiency ratings around here That YPP vs points must render you quite inefficient. Also it seems ISU has a habit of losing to Iowa by weird scores like 11-10
Iowa made no mistakes in the game which kept them in it. Like I said, the game shouldn’t have been in doubt and come down to a bad call. That is on the Clones.
 
7-5, those 5 losses were by a combined 21 points.

Margin of loss:

#16Iowa-1
@#7Baylor-2
OK State-7
@#4Boomer Sooner-1
@K-State-10
4.2 per game

they were in every game they played!
Who cares who they “almost beat”!
Almost means nothing.
Almost means good but simply not good enough.
Almost most means you lost 5 games and have no business playing a team that is 10-2.

If Notre Dame had that weak schedule, ND would be 12-0 and in the playoffs.

Yes, I am saying ND beats the Sooners and Baylor.

Neither team has any defense.

ND will beat the Cyclones by more points than anyone has this season.

38-24
 
Who cares who they “almost beat”!
Almost means nothing.
Almost means good but simply not good enough.
Almost most means you lost 5 games and have no business playing a team that is 10-2.

If Notre Dame had that weak schedule, ND would be 12-0 and in the playoffs.

Yes, I am saying ND beats the Sooners and Baylor.

Neither team has any defense.

ND will beat the Cyclones by more points than anyone has this season.

38-24
LOL! ND got blasted by Mich which both OU and Baylor would beat. ND is overrated and Vegas clearly sees it.
 
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7-5, those 5 losses were by a combined 21 points.

Margin of loss:

#16Iowa-1
@#7Baylor-2
OK State-7
@#4Boomer Sooner-1
@K-State-10
4.2 per game

they were in every game they played!

ND is only a 3.5 point favorite!

Iowa State will be very motivated.

Some questions are:

1. Will ND be very motivated ?

2. How well constructed will the offensive game plan be ?

3. How well constructed will the defensive game plan be ?

Time will tell
 
Purdy isn’t as talented as his stats might indicate. He’s got pinpoint accuracy when he has time to throw and can extend plays with his feet, but he has a noodle arm, is a turnover machine, and sprays throws all over the field when he is pressured. His stats are more a product of the god awful defenses in the Big XII.

He did put up over 300 yards of total offense against Iowa's amazing defense...
 
Iowa State should be a stern challenge.

Let’s see how Kelly’s game plan deals with IS’s All-American tight end.
 
Purdy isn’t as talented as his stats might indicate. He’s got pinpoint accuracy when he has time to throw and can extend plays with his feet, but he has a noodle arm, is a turnover machine, and sprays throws all over the field when he is pressured. His stats are more a product of the god awful defenses in the Big XII.
So you're saying Purdy = Book. I call that a push on that position then.
 
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