I am not sure an undefeated season will get us a playoff berth

[Invincible Lucky Green]

We are ranked 9th and 11th in the major polls. Our schedule does not seems that difficult. Stanford may not even be ranked when we play them. Texas may be a 7-6 team. Virginia is easy pickens. Umass is a joke. Navy won't win us any votes so it comes down to how we fare against GT and USC. Even if we beat them, is it enough? With the emphasis, led by ESPN, on conference championships and anti ND bias, we might be screwed. OSU will go undefeated with their cupcake schedule. Alabama will always get the benefit of the doubt, even if they lose a game with the SEC BS, Baylot and TCU play no one (Except themselves). Anyone have any ideas how this will play out that gets us a playoff berth?

 

[SALittleGiant513]

How in the hell could anyone answer that question? If a team from each of the P5 conferences goes undefeated that would affect it, if no teams are undefeated that would affect the question. Gotta give it a few games before everything starts to clear up. Two top 10 teams play this weekend giving one of them a loss.

 

[Invincible Lucky Green]

SA, based on our schedule, ESPN and anti ND bias...do you see how we get in if 5 teams go undefeated or lose 1 game?

 

[TheDecker]

I don't think there has been a single instance of more than 4+ P5 teams being undefeated in at the end of the season in the last 50 years

And an undefeated ND team will always get in over any 1-Loss team, 100% guarantee.
For evidence of this, check 2012, where ND was ranked #1 Overall, despite having a bevy of close calls against average teams and a schedule that would be very comparable to this seasons

An undefeated ND team will get into the playoffs 100% of the time. That's a stone cold lock

The real question becomes, would ND make the playoffs at 11-1?
There is a very real possibility that they would, but it's not nearly the lock that 12-0 is

The 11-1 situation is really the only one worth discussing

 

[NDEwing18]

SA, based on our schedule, ESPN and anti ND bias...do you see how we get in if 5 teams go undefeated or lose 1 game?

No undefeated Power 5 team or Notre Dame will be left out of the playoff if there are 4 or fewer of such teams remaining at the end of the year.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

No if there are 6 teams at the end of the season undefeated and ND is one of them I believe Pac 12, Sec, Acc and Big 12 champs will get in unless B1G champ is Ohio St and I think they get in for a chance at the repeat in that scenario.

But as Decker said that hasn't happened in over 50 years, you are quick to call out people who are crazy optimistic but with a thread like this you are just begging people to be optimistic. You are going to get people to say "No way to guess 1 game in" or "ND = Playoffs all the way baby". I get that you hope Bodi comes on here and says ND national champs suck it, just so you can **** with him and tell him he is an idiot, but c'mon breh.

 

[88ND]

We are ranked 9th and 11th in the major polls. Our schedule does not seems that difficult. Stanford may not even be ranked when we play them. Texas may be a 7-6 team. Virginia is easy pickens. Umass is a joke. Navy won't win us any votes so it comes down to how we fare against GT and USC. Even if we beat them, is it enough? With the emphasis, led by ESPN, on conference championships and anti ND bias, we might be screwed. OSU will go undefeated with their cupcake schedule. Alabama will always get the benefit of the doubt, even if they lose a game with the SEC BS, Baylot and TCU play no one (Except themselves). Anyone have any ideas how this will play out that gets us a playoff berth?

I promise you that if ND wins out they will be in the playoff. Moreover depending on how the USC game goes for both squads I can even see either one of them making it in with that loss....
********* before you freak out..........
that loss has to be something of controversy, or such a barn burner of a game that people would virtually be demanding a rematch. Outcome on a botched call....something. It does not happen often but it can in fact happen. There has to be no real clear cut better than teams.....or undefeated teams as well for this to happen.

Someone said that FSU last year was not even in the top 6 best teams in the country. Nobody was going to deny them a spot having the only remaining undefeated record.

If there are 5 remaining teams undefeated at seasons end is the only way I see a potential problem.

Here is an easy one...win all your games and it will take care of itself.

 

[Invincible Lucky Green]

#1 OSU - Undefeated or loss to #5 MSU (highly doubtful)
#2 Alabama - Undefeated or loss to Auburn or LSU (highly doubtful)
#3 TCU - Loses to Baylor
#4 Baylor - Loses to #3 TCU
#5 MSU -loses or beats OSU
#6 Auburn - Loses or beats Alabama
#7 Oregon - Loses or beats USC
#8 USC - Loses or beats Oregon

See the dilemma? OSU losng to MSU will not frop them below ND. MSU losing to OSU will not drop them below ND. Alabama losing to Auburn will not drop them below ND. TCU or Baylor, depending on who wins, will be ranked higher than ND. The loser of Baylor or TCU may still be ranked higher than ND. If Oregon beats USC, Oregon will be ranked higher than ND but USC will be ranked lower if we beat them.

An undefeated or 1 loss OSU will be ranked higher than ND
An undefeated or 1 loss Bama team will be ranked higher then ND if they win the Big 10 CG
And undefeated or 1 loss MSU will be ranked higher then ND if they win the Big 10 CG
TCU or Baylor will be ranked higher than ND
The loser of TCU/Baylor will still probably be ranked higher than ND based on conference final.

 

[Invincible Lucky Green]

I promise you that if ND wins out they will be in the playoff. Moreover depending on how the USC game goes for both squads I can even see either one of them making it in with that loss....
********* before you freak out..........
that loss has to be something of controversy, or such a barn burner of a game that people would virtually be demanding a rematch. Outcome on a botched call....something. It does not happen often but it can in fact happen. There has to be no real clear cut better than teams.....or undefeated teams as well for this to happen.

Someone said that FSU last year was not even in the top 6 best teams in the country. Nobody was going to deny them a spot having the only remaining undefeated record.

If there are 5 remaining teams undefeated at seasons end is the only way I see a potential problem.

Here is an easy one...win all your games and it will take care of itself.

FSU got in because they were the reigning champion from the previous year.

 

[Nocalirish]

You are an idiot. The Criminoles made it last year and didnt have a dominant game all year.

 

[Invincible Lucky Green]

You are an idiot. The Criminoles made it last year and didnt have a dominant game all year.

No you are an idiot because they made it to the playoffs. So genius, why did they make it to the playoffs?

 

[theskibro]

We are ranked 9th and 11th in the major polls. Our schedule does not seems that difficult. Stanford may not even be ranked when we play them. Texas may be a 7-6 team. Virginia is easy pickens. Umass is a joke. Navy won't win us any votes so it comes down to how we fare against GT and USC. Even if we beat them, is it enough? With the emphasis, led by ESPN, on conference championships and anti ND bias, we might be screwed. OSU will go undefeated with their cupcake schedule. Alabama will always get the benefit of the doubt, even if they lose a game with the SEC BS, Baylot and TCU play no one (Except themselves). Anyone have any ideas how this will play out that gets us a playoff berth?

absolutely nothing to worry about here We have a very tough schedule OSU should be concerned cause if MSU beats them, they are toast with their weak schedule

 

[Invincible Lucky Green]

absolutely nothing to worry about here We have a very tough schedule OSU should be concerned cause if MSU beats them, they are toast with their weak schedule

What if they win the Big 10 CG?

 

[TheDecker]

Please point to the last time there were more than 4 undefeated teams at the end of a season

I'll wait for that response before telling you again what the chances of a 12-0 ND team not making the playoffs are

 

[TheDecker]

#1 OSU - Undefeated or loss to #5 MSU (highly doubtful)
#2 Alabama - Undefeated or loss to Auburn or LSU (highly doubtful)
#3 TCU - Loses to Baylor
#4 Baylor - Loses to #3 TCU
#5 MSU -loses or beats OSU
#6 Auburn - Loses or beats Alabama
#7 Oregon - Loses or beats USC
#8 USC - Loses or beats Oregon

See the dilemma? OSU losng to MSU will not frop them below ND. MSU losing to OSU will not drop them below ND. Alabama losing to Auburn will not drop them below ND. TCU or Baylor, depending on who wins, will be ranked higher than ND. The loser of Baylor or TCU may still be ranked higher than ND. If Oregon beats USC, Oregon will be ranked higher than ND but USC will be ranked lower if we beat them.

An undefeated or 1 loss OSU will be ranked higher than ND
An undefeated or 1 loss Bama team will be ranked higher then ND if they win the Big 10 CG
And undefeated or 1 loss MSU will be ranked higher then ND if they win the Big 10 CG
TCU or Baylor will be ranked higher than ND
The loser of TCU/Baylor will still probably be ranked higher than ND based on conference final.

No 1-Loss team will get in over an undefeated ND

Heck, a 1-loss SEC Champ Alabama team (who lost to a ranked SEC team) was ranked behind ND

You're whole thread is about as relevant as "What if the Green Bay Packers want to be included in the 2015 CFB Playoffs???"

 

[perseverare]

We are ranked 9th and 11th in the major polls. Our schedule does not seems that difficult. Stanford may not even be ranked when we play them. Texas may be a 7-6 team. Virginia is easy pickens. Umass is a joke. Navy won't win us any votes so it comes down to how we fare against GT and USC. Even if we beat them, is it enough? With the emphasis, led by ESPN, on conference championships and anti ND bias, we might be screwed. OSU will go undefeated with their cupcake schedule. Alabama will always get the benefit of the doubt, even if they lose a game with the SEC BS, Baylot and TCU play no one (Except themselves). Anyone have any ideas how this will play out that gets us a playoff berth?

undefeated will get a birth; there will not be 3 undefeateds. Major conferences have parity, or a few teams that are equals. They will suffer loses to each other.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

For crying out loud there has been exactly 1 week of college football. It is way too early to have this conversation. Let's just see if ND gets past Virginia first.

 

[D_Master]

if ND goes undefeated they will get in. There is never 5 undefeated teams in CFB from the power conferences. I think freaking out about this before the 2nd game of the year is ridiculous.

 

[cgvr]

For crying out loud there has been exactly 1 week of college football. It is way too early to have this conversation. Let's just see if ND gets past Virginia first.

I am still worrying about the possibility of the USA switching to the metric system. Can you imagine updating the stats? I think we are okay for the rest of this year. Also, what if the U.S. puts an embargo on Guinness? Man these are tough times....

 

[Irish Grandeur]

There goes two minutes of my life I will never get back

 

[cgvr]

Oh great and mystical "Truth Teller" I beseech thee to join this thread , share your wisdom and calm the faithful. I realize you may be dining with Lou Holtz, but please find the time to add some sanity here....

 

[tkirish]

Let's just let the season play out. No one knows what's going happen. Every year we have a discussion on what if there are 3 undefeated teams. Then what? Will someone be left out? You know what? Who cares. No matter what happens some team will be crying foul. The chances of ND going undefeated, if you're honest are slim. Not because they aren't good, rather the chances are low. It doesn't happen often. 2012 was remarkable. But they had some things go their way. The Stanford game could have easily went the other way. Just like last years FSU game , Stanford could have be given a TD in the overtime. Also who could forget the Pitt game? What are the chances the kicker misses the winning FG in overtime? Not to mention two players wearing the number 2 and the refs didn't catch that. It would have given Pitt a first down. ND scored and won. I am not worrying one way or the other about making the playoff. It will work itself out. If the Irish go out every week and win, then I like their chances. Can't worry about game 10 when they didn't even play game 2.

 

[no1e]

Oh great and mystical "Truth Teller" I beseech thee to join this thread , share your wisdom and calm the faithful. I realize you may be dining with Lou Holtz, but please find the time to add some sanity here....

Lol..... that make everything right.

 

[Irish Grandeur]

Oh great and mystical "Truth Teller" I beseech thee to join this thread , share your wisdom and calm the faithful. I realize you may be dining with Lou Holtz, but please find the time to add some sanity here....

Hey cgvr, the 60's called and said they want their peyote back.

 

[cgvr]

Hey cgvr, the 60's called and said they want their peyote back.

Somewhere out there he rides seeking justice and helping the oppressed. He is known by many names, those are just aliases, for he is the "Truth Teller". I hope he gets here soon so we can feel safe again. He may be fighting over the dinner/cocktail bill with Holtz right now. The "truth teller" doesn't realize Augusta won't take his credit card....

 

[IrishBlooded]

Should save this thread for the end of the year.

ND plays GTech (favored to win their division), at Clemson (favored to win their division, and their conference), plays USC (favored to win their division and possible conference), at Stanford favored to go 1 or 2 in their division.

They play 3 of 4 of those, without the benefit of a BYE, or a Thursday night game, or a FCS in a week leading up to them.

This might be the silliest thread ever.

The ONLY way this comes into play is if there are 3 or more undefeated conference champs. in conferences with a conference championship game. And ND drops a game anywhere.

Realistically the only one I see going undefeated this year is Ohio State. Possibly Clemson. And that is a less than 50% chance for Clemson.

 

[Invincible Lucky Green]

We shall see. I don't want any crying here when this happens. Of course, we are assuming Kell does not pull a NW or Tulsa on us.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

There's the "I am much smarter then you, you will see how right I am" that you could tell was coming. Glad the people gave you the opportunity to get that out there.

 

[Invincible Lucky Green]

There's the "I am much smarter then you, you will see how right I am" that you could tell was coming. Glad the people gave you the opportunity to get that out there.

Just commenting that I disagree with the assessment that we get in with an undefeated season. Also had to acknowledge that I was getting way ahead of myself and this was Kelly, a perennial 8 win coach who has cost ND a few games with his play calling so going undefeated is a pipe dream with this clown. We have the talent but his game day skills will kill us against Clemson and USC. GT may blow our doors off as well since he cannot figure out (with any Def. Coord) how to stop the option. Maybe he should bring Rees in and run it in practice since it worked so well in the game. LOL;

 

[TheDecker]

Just commenting that I disagree with the assessment that we get in with an undefeated season. Also had to acknowledge that I was getting way ahead of myself and this was Kelly, a perennial 8 win coach who has cost ND a few games with his play calling so going undefeated is a pipe dream with this clown. We have the talent but his game day skills will kill us against Clemson and USC. GT may blow our doors off as well since he cannot figure out (with any Def. Coord) how to stop the option. Maybe he should bring Rees in and run it in practice since it worked so well in the game. LOL;

Interesting switch of trolling tactic.

You got shut down pretty hard on the "We won't get in, even if we're undefeated" maneuver, so you've switched to "Our coach sucks too much for us to go undefeated"

A troll switch that obvious, this late in a thread....Bold Play Cotton!

 

[perseverare]

Just commenting that I disagree with the assessment that we get in with an undefeated season. Also had to acknowledge that I was getting way ahead of myself and this was Kelly, a perennial 8 win coach who has cost ND a few games with his play calling so going undefeated is a pipe dream with this clown. We have the talent but his game day skills will kill us against Clemson and USC. GT may blow our doors off as well since he cannot figure out (with any Def. Coord) how to stop the option. Maybe he should bring Rees in and run it in practice since it worked so well in the game. LOL;

Lucky

Just consider that at about 5-6 years on any job that that may be the time you expect that employee to reach their potential or become of superior proficiency.
Kelly has taken something from each year to develop where he wants his team. This staff is an elite staff as currently composed; it can coach, recruit and IMO can formulate winning game plan.
This year fans expect to see results comensurate to the above.

Additionally, last years recruiting class, plus this years class, if projections prove true, has the potential to place ND in a position to compete in the Top 10-15 teams (or even top 10).

I understand you dislike Kelly, and think he is the wrong guy, but the team is the thing, the staff improvements are real; just trashing based on prior results is not recognizing things learned and any improvements along the way.
Separate the coach from the person.

Let the season play out, and there is an entire off season for evaluation.

 

[mokpra37]

This invincible lucky green fellow is just another puss michigan fan pretending to be an ND fan. An undefeated and even one loss ND team is far too powerful a draw not to include in the playoff. Nice try skunky.

 

[88ND]

It is game day ...why waste time on someone trying to stir something that is 3.5 months away.....????
Kickoff can't get here soon enough.

 

[BigFellaFan]

At 11-1 ND will be in the Final Four. The OP is out to lunch.

 

[Invincible Lucky Green]

Since we can't even beat VA, I guess this is a moot point. Kelly sucks.

 

[Irish Grandeur]

I have to admit, there was no way UVA was on the same plane as ND.

 

[rocketfuel25]

Since we can't even beat VA, I guess this is a moot point. Kelly sucks.

Wrong again, how many threads can you be wrong in???? the sky's the limit for you!

 

[Upperrwestsidetrojan]

We are ranked 9th and 11th in the major polls. Our schedule does not seems that difficult. Stanford may not even be ranked when we play them. Texas may be a 7-6 team. Virginia is easy pickens. Umass is a joke. Navy won't win us any votes so it comes down to how we fare against GT and USC. Even if we beat them, is it enough? With the emphasis, led by ESPN, on conference championships and anti ND bias, we might be screwed. OSU will go undefeated with their cupcake schedule. Alabama will always get the benefit of the doubt, even if they lose a game with the SEC BS, Baylot and TCU play no one (Except themselves). Anyone have any ideas how this will play out that gets us a playoff berth?

If you go undefeated you will get in. I guarantee it. Your schedule may not be brutal, but it is decent. ND has plenty of national respect.

 

[perseverare]

No undefeated Power 5 team or Notre Dame will be left out of the playoff if there are 4 or fewer of such teams remaining at the end of the year.

2 games into the season:
#1,#2 QB's 'gone'
#1 DT 'gone'
#1 RB 'gone',
#2 RB 'gone'
#1 Nickel Back 'gone'

The season record for 2014: 8-4
The season record for 2013: 8-4

So, the discussion is about finishing 12-0 ?

 

[echowaker]

Since we can't even beat VA, I guess this is a moot point. Kelly sucks.

the depths of your stupidity have no bounds.