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Deciding which acts of intimidating violence are terrorism and which are not would be a problem. I would rather punish the crime committed, and not complicate things further.
I guess so. And I'm pretty sure the authorities are going to be all over that. They usually are. I was just saying it's not terrorism. Stuff like this happens in America all the time, though this is the first truck rampage I think we've had, unless I'm forgetting, it's pretty easy to forget they've become so commonplace.
Truck rampage, shootout and 4 bombs is not commonplace.
This was a clear act of terror
No. This not commonplace. This isn't a bullied student shooting out his high school or a jealous man killing his ex-girlfriend. Most murders are done by someone the victim knows. If it was commonplace, FBI wouldn't be getting involved and calling it an act of terrorism.
Yeah? You going to define things the way you want to define them again? First it was NIL, and anything CFB related where your semi-intelligible opinions are quite intransigent, regardless of the facts on the ground so to speak. And now you're all opinionated about the appropriate definition of terrorism. I figured you'd side with me, because the tendency to label anything and everything as terrorism is typically done so as to legally justify totally cracking down with tryannical govt. and police overreach, would be something you would be against. But not this time I guess.....
It seems that a student who feels bullied and kills 15, should be just as big of a concern as a vet who feels bullied and kills 15 as a result. Labeling one as worse because it is "terrorism" does not make sense to me. Both are equally horrific.
One guy had set 4 bombs with 3 other people who are still at large.
You dont see the difference ?
I'm not arguing the severity of the crime. I'm arguing that it's not commonplace.
I think crime should be measured by the severity. Being commonplace does not mitigate matters.
Not sure if true but read, both teams requested an earlier start due to rest concerns. Add in now PSU gets an extra day of rest, and the winner of ND/UGA gets one less day of rest.
Once again, I'm not arguing severity. That has nothing to do with my response to another poster who said this attack was commonplace.
I just went over the whole 'terrorism' labeling, and I would say it's not because it's an act of terrorism, because it isn't one. It's what I said it is. You're denying that, and saying this isn't just another school shooting, enacted by a bullied kid. Even though it is, the difference is he drove a truck through a busy tourist area, whatever his personal situation was, instead of shooting up a wal-mart. But if you arbitrarily label it as such, and just expand the definition to include lone wolf acts of mass violence, then you get to politically take advantage of it, because everyone's all horrified. And I'm pretty sure we have dozens of very significant mass shootings every year in this country.
The word 'terrorism', semantically refers to the idea of blowing up bombs in a Paris subway or something, in the hopes of the govt. meeting your political demands, And so you 'terrorize' the public until they give in, and keep them in a state of terror. This is nothing like that. There'd be no basis for good-faith categorizing it as terrorism.
Heard the same thing my friend.
Hopefully a 7 pm start etc.
Go Irish. !
If I hear anything I’ll let y’all know. Lol.
So you know better than the FBI to label this as not an act of terrorism?
I think they should push back the orange bowl a day but they won't. It's a big advantage to psu
Yep. And born here in the good old USA. So all that BS that a certain someone was spewing about an illegal doing this was exactly that, as usual: just a pile of BS.
And I can almost guarantee you his accomplices were not born in the good ol USA. we shall see.
Yeah, but it's not terrorism. Neither are acts of terrorism. It doesn't matter what the FBI says, because we already know what the definition of terrorism is, and this doesn't fit it, nor do school shootings. I guess people are terrified when something like that happens. And given the state of American society, people might be terrified that something like this could happen at any time, because they do happen all the time. But there's no organization, no stated objective or aim, just disgruntled people resorting to violence for their own personal reasons.
Anyway, I guess the game's on for tomorrow night. So there you go!
This is still an ongoing investigations and many of your assumptions are based on your opinion without knowing any facts that the investigation has yet to determine.
The investigations will discover if he was part of an organization;and what their intended objective.
This is true, there could be some organized, underground movement we don't know anything about yet. And it was all planned out and premeditated as part of some coordinated campaign of terror. And if so, then it would be terrorism. But I'm guessing there isn't one. And thus it wouldn't be 'terrorism'.
So, instead of waiting for the facts - you jumped to a biased conclusion without taking into accounts the initial statements by the FBI about information that he was not acting alone and that they have determined this to be an act of terrorism!
I am sure ESPN is pissed. They would want an evening slot to maximize viewers.
Well it's not good for sure. But what happens to the payments for commercials when the game is moved?
I am sure that is covered in the contract. Considered an "act of god" move.
Don't you know he knows better about everything ? Just ask him. He even believes that Brian Kelly was named Mr. Congeniality.
Pretty sure all the victims and everyone present were " terrorized ". What a stupid argument.
Yes, I did. Our trusted authorities have been falsely labeling non-acts of terrorism, and abusing the label for their own particular expedience for quite some time, ever since 9/11 pretty much. And there's very little reason based on the news breaking thus far to wonder if this truck rampage was actually a genuine act of organized terrorism, or any kind of actual terrorism. So I'm very comfortable disregarding any spurious claim that this was terrorism. The idea of course is to take the gravity of the grievous violence of real terrorism, and all the police power that is arrogated on account of such acts as a justified response to such an occurrence, and just keep claiming every time some major act of mass violence happens that the police/authorities are continuously justified in any such further encroachments on the public's normal, standard civil rights, I guess you'd say.
Otherwise you wouldn't label it 'terrorism', because it would make no logical sense. It wouldn't fit the definition, in a very straightforward, super easy to understand way. And the irony is there isn't any terrorism in America as a rule. And it's not common at all. But mass shootings are totally common.
I thought act of God is for natural disasters. It wouldn't surprise me if there is a "public safety" or "act of terrorism" clause.
Understanding that not all the known facts have been made public by the FBI, local LE and other agencies, as they continue the investigation seems to have been easily discarded in your eagerness to declare falsehoods.
Verbose bloviating seems to be your schtick.
"Act of god" refers to any event outside of the signed parties control. So yes, a storm, but also war, terrorism, zombie plague, etc.
That's because the veterans get angry after getting an up-close look at how America bullies and kills the rest of the world to push the elites agenda. I guess they realize that this country is really evil and for the last 80 years has been the source of most of the problems in the world
Why do you want to agree with the FBI, your brother in law an agent or something? You want to make a wager that this isn't an act of organized terrorism with some secret anti-government militia behind it? And I thought you guys would be like rugged individualists or some shit, but no, you're like total conformists whenever it comes to anything the police say. And this is not new, they've been labeling any kind of major act of violence as 'terrorism' for a while now. Or trying to.
And you're right, it's my schtick! I'm like a regular vaudevillian!
Yeah, but is he a terrorist! Yeah, huh? We can keep expanding the definition. Anything you don't like we could turn it into a terrorist. These no-good ingrates, you're damn right they're terrorists.
