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That's because the veterans get angry after getting an up-close look at how America bullies and kills the rest of the world to push the elites agenda. I guess they realize that this country is really evil and for the last 80 years has been the source of most of the problems in the world
That’s a complete lie !

The Fort Hood shooter being a perfect example.
He was an Islamic sympathizer

Would you cite where America has bullied and killed the rest of the world to push the elites’ agenda?

And would you cite the “elites” agenda for us?

In the last 80 years, what land has America annexed ?
 
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Why do you want to agree with the FBI, your brother in law an agent or something? You want to make a wager that this isn't an act of organized terrorism with some secret anti-government militia behind it? And I thought you guys would be like rugged individualists or some shit, but no, you're like total conformists whenever it comes to anything the police say. And this is not new, they've been labeling any kind of major act of violence as 'terrorism' for a while now. Or trying to.

And you're right, it's my schtick! I'm like a regular vaudevillian!
Unlike you, I am waiting for more facts of the investigation to be released before I make any type of judgement - maybe you should try that sometime! And how does waiting for facts make me a conformist?

Your conflation of what you consider the "labeling" of terrorism and actual criminal charges fits into your narrative, but itis very short on actual fact.
 
Unlike you, I am waiting for more facts of the investigation to be released before I make any type of judgement - maybe you should try that sometime! And how does waiting for facts make me a conformist?

Your conflation of what you consider the "labeling" of terrorism and actual criminal charges fits into your narrative, but itis very short on actual fact.
I think I already made clear I'm not going to do that. Notwithstanding your recommendation that I 'try it sometime'. Because in the unlikely event that it was part of an actual terrorist plot, what bad happens, how did I ruin anything? Is the guy going to get away if I don't take the cops at their word, and reject their cynical and almost certainly inaccurate characterization of this random truck rampage in our collapsing society as a terrorist attack, or maybe an 'act of terror', which would be subtly but perhaps crucially different semantically.

Oh, I get it, you just want me to display unquestioning deference and servility to the police and federal authorities. And you feel resentment and vexation when anyone else around you doesn't demonstrate the same servility. Even though I totally explained myself, and I was so verbose! Doesn't make any difference to you. You want that docility. Good for the goose, good for the gander, eh? What makes me so much better than you that I get to scoff at the cops? Just because you don't have the balls to. I think that's what it is. But you do you, sir.
 
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And you know what, it looks like might have been a terrorist attack, an islamic terrorist attack. And not just some disgruntled soul. Oh well. I guess that makes everybody feel better. And now we can have our freedoms further restricted in the unending war on terror. It's been a while, I guess maybe we were due.
 
people dumping their tickets at bargain basement prices. If I wasn't feeling under the weather, I'd use my miles to book a flight down, book a room with points, and catch the game.
 
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And you know what, it looks like might have been a terrorist attack, an islamic terrorist attack. And not just some disgruntled soul. Oh well. I guess that makes everybody feel better. And now we can have our freedoms further restricted in the unending war on terror. It's been a while, I guess maybe we were due.
When entrusted with the safety of our citizens, what alternative do you suggest?
 
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When entrusted with the safety of our citizens, what alternative do you suggest?
Not now, troll. It sounds like the dude was recruited, if even that, and is an American citizen and 8 year army vet, as well as a disgruntled soul and vulnerable to that sort of thing. If indeed that's what it is. In any case, not the time for cheerleading a new wave of crackdowns in a society already halfway given over to a full blown surveillance state. Especially when you're just a troll anyway. I was at least speaking with sincerity.
 
Not now, troll. It sounds like the dude was recruited, if even that, and is an American citizen and 8 year army vet, as well as a disgruntled soul and vulnerable to that sort of thing. If indeed that's what it is. In any case, not the time for cheerleading a new wave of crackdowns in a society already halfway given over to a full blown surveillance state. Especially when you're just a troll anyway. I was at least speaking with sincerity.
You said that our freedoms would be further restricted, so tell us in what way?

And then you can answer the question: if you were entrusted with the safety of our citizens, what alternatives would you suggest?

Trying to avoid answering the question by calling me a troll won’t work

Answer the questions
 
I think I already made clear I'm not going to do that. Notwithstanding your recommendation that I 'try it sometime'. Because in the unlikely event that it was part of an actual terrorist plot, what bad happens, how did I ruin anything? Is the guy going to get away if I don't take the cops at their word, and reject their cynical and almost certainly inaccurate characterization of this random truck rampage in our collapsing society as a terrorist attack, or maybe an 'act of terror', which would be subtly but perhaps crucially different semantically.

Oh, I get it, you just want me to display unquestioning deference and servility to the police and federal authorities. And you feel resentment and vexation when anyone else around you doesn't demonstrate the same servility. Even though I totally explained myself, and I was so verbose! Doesn't make any difference to you. You want that docility. Good for the goose, good for the gander, eh? What makes me so much better than you that I get to scoff at the cops? Just because you don't have the balls to. I think that's what it is. But you do you, sir.
And you know what, it looks like might have been a terrorist attack, an islamic terrorist attack. And not just some disgruntled soul. Oh well. I guess that makes everybody feel better. And now we can have our freedoms further restricted in the unending war on terror. It's been a while, I guess maybe we were due.
You have made it clear that you are only interested in a narrative that is devoid of actual facts and when the facts do come to light - your response was "Oh well". The rest of your comments are typical of a person that would seek out an argument over the precise shade of blue concerning someone's comment about a blue sky.
 
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This isn't terrorism. Terrorism is like, organized political radicals, who have an agenda and commit acts of violence and mayhem in hopes of advancing it. Like with 9/11, this is nothing like that. This is just some disturbed dude who has quit on life and is full of rage. Not 'terrorism'.


This is indeed terrorism, as now they're saying he didn't act alone. I still am guessing he decided to go out in a blaze for other reasons. But he seems to have signaled and collaborated with conspirators.

BTW: I think you needlessly fear AI. Just like anything, it can be good or bad. It depends on how much authority you allow it. But it excels at the type of data mining that might signal and allow the interdiction of terror.

As the families of the victims what they think. I bet most would support advanced surveillance. Which can be done with regards to privacy, security, freedom, even anonymity.
 
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This is indeed terrorism, as now they're saying he didn't act alone. I still am guessing he decided to go out in a blaze for other reasons. But he seems to have signaled and collaborated with conspirators.

BTW: I think you needlessly fear AI. Just like anything, it can be good or bad. It depends on how much authority you allow it. But it excels at the type of data mining that might signal and allow the interdiction of terror.

As the families of the victims what they think. I bet most would support advanced surveillance. Which can be done with regards to privacy, security, freedom, even anonymity.
So it is. I spoke too soon. I was watching the games and the initial report I glanced at didn't mention terrorism and it appeared to have enough of the hallmarks of a loan gunman type scenario, which would not be at all surprising in this country. Where those things happen all the time to varying degrees of death and destruction, and if this guy was a vet as reported, he might be more inclined to go ham with it. And in any case it didn't sound like a terrorist attack at first blush. And it's nevertheless true that the war on terror is never ending, and is almost like a self fulfilling prophecy.

I don't want to get in an argument over this but I don't care what the families think. Grieving families don't decide policy for an entire nation. And there's no evidence that I'm privy to at least that advanced surveillance is implemented with any of the safeguards you allude to. The direct opposite is indeed the whole point of domestic surveillance.
 
That's because the veterans get angry after getting an up-close look at how America bullies and kills the rest of the world to push the elites agenda. I guess they realize that this country is really evil and for the last 80 years has been the source of most of the problems in the world


This is an ignorant opinion. I'm an ex US Army officer. I happened to serve in Korea, supported Desert Storm, and was in the Balkan wars in the 90s.

Suffice it to say, the USA doesn't impose itself against the wishes of host nations. We offered to leave South Korea, Japan, and Europe a few times. They insist we stay...for obvious reasons.

The USA ended the Balkan wars when nobody else would or could. We got out. Left independent states...including my original country Croatia.

The world just doesn't operate like a video game. Where the gamer has control. Reality is a lot more complicated, where the fog of war sees even the best plans often go awry.

I'll leave you with a thought: American engagement has correlated to the highest absolute and per capita GDP as well as best distribution of income and wealth ever achieved. We're not perfect. We've made mistakes. But overall all the USA is beneficent...something I know as an immigrant, ex soldier, and corporate professional.
 
This isn't terrorism. Terrorism is like, organized political radicals, who have an agenda and commit acts of violence and mayhem in hopes of advancing it. Like with 9/11, this is nothing like that. This is just some disturbed dude who has quit on life and is full of rage. Not 'terrorism'.
4 others involved ….this wasn’t an individual act
 
I just went over the whole 'terrorism' labeling, and I would say it's not because it's an act of terrorism, because it isn't one. It's what I said it is. You're denying that, and saying this isn't just another school shooting, enacted by a bullied kid. Even though it is, the difference is he drove a truck through a busy tourist area, whatever his personal situation was, instead of shooting up a wal-mart. But if you arbitrarily label it as such, and just expand the definition to include lone wolf acts of mass violence, then you get to politically take advantage of it, because everyone's all horrified. And I'm pretty sure we have dozens of very significant mass shootings every year in this country.

The word 'terrorism', semantically refers to the idea of blowing up bombs in a Paris subway or something, in the hopes of the govt. meeting your political demands, And so you 'terrorize' the public until they give in, and keep them in a state of terror. This is nothing like that. There'd be no basis for good-faith categorizing it as terrorism.
Shut up sjb
 
So it is. I spoke too soon. I was watching the games and the initial report I glanced at didn't mention terrorism and it appeared to have enough of the hallmarks of a loan gunman type scenario, which would not be at all surprising in this country. Where those things happen all the time to varying degrees of death and destruction, and if this guy was a vet as reported, he might be more inclined to go ham with it. And in any case it didn't sound like a terrorist attack at first blush. And it's nevertheless true that the war on terror is never ending, and is almost like a self fulfilling prophecy.

I don't want to get in an argument over this but I don't care what the families think. Grieving families don't decide policy for an entire nation. And there's no evidence that I'm privy to at least that advanced surveillance is implemented with any of the safeguards you allude to. The direct opposite is indeed the whole point of domestic surveillance.


I work in AI. Data can be securely anonymized. Encryption. Where you need:

1) Encryption key material to un-encrypt.
2) Legal permission and the appropriate authentication and authorization....be it a human or bot.

Let the bots have access to anonymized real time streaming & historical data. Every 30 seconds or so they can apply threat, intrusion, and anomaly detection algorithms. If they get a positive signal, alerts are sent to human authorities for the said encryption, authentication, and authorization needed to concretely identify the suspects.

And sure, the opinions and experiences of victims matter. Protecting life is important and, as I discussed, can be done with regards for privacy, security, and freedom.
 
Right. So why is this happening? Are our armed forces and our government not doing enough to prevent this from happening? Did this guy ask for help and was told, take a number?
being frustrated in life …then turning to ISIS and planning with others to run over people with a bomb in your truck…and plant bombs over a few blocks in a city….is a pretty big pivot.
 
It seems that a student who feels bullied and kills 15, should be just as big of a concern as a vet who feels bullied and kills 15 as a result. Labeling one as worse because it is "terrorism" does not make sense to me. Both are equally horrific.
No wonder you think Harbie is innocent
 
I work in AI. Data can be securely anonymized. Encryption. Where you need:

1) Encryption key material to un-encrypt.
2) Legal permission and the appropriate authentication and authorization....be it a human or bot.

Let the bots have access to anonymized real time streaming & historical data. Every 30 seconds or so they can apply threat, intrusion, and anomaly detection algorithms. If they get a positive signal, alerts are sent to human authorities for the said encryption, authentication, and authorization needed to concretely identify the suspects.

And sure, the opinions and experiences of victims matter. Protecting life is important and, as I discussed, can be done with regards for privacy, security, and freedom.
Okay well, you know how I feel, and I'm not sympathetic. But indeed, this is a highly technical, esoteric sort of thing, I don't pretend to any knowledge of the latest encryption techniques, so I'm in no position to differ on that score. Let's just say I wouldn't want to empower and entrust all this computer technology, however possible to only be used for good as it were, to our national security state. But I guess we just don't see eye to eye on that score.

And besides, I feel like saying that I'm confident that the govt. already possesses what they need, legally and technically, to be able to snoop around enough to sniff these things out. I guess they just missed this one. Which of course elicits demands for even greater access with more intrusive technology. And the tech is always improving and advancing and situation continually shifting and updating. And on and on it goes. What else could a layman do, but hand over his fate to the Silicon Valley and the collective computer cognoscenti, and try to remain an optimist.

Anyway, it looks like the game is on for tomorrow night, knock on wood. And my apologies to anyone offended by my outspoken dismissing of what turns out to apparently be an actual terrorist attack. I thought it was just a crazy dude driving his truck through a crowd.
 
This is an ignorant opinion. I'm an ex US Army officer. I happened to serve in Korea, supported Desert Storm, and was in the Balkan wars in the 90s.

Suffice it to say, the USA doesn't impose itself against the wishes of host nations. We offered to leave South Korea, Japan, and Europe a few times. They insist we stay...for obvious reasons.

The USA ended the Balkan wars when nobody else would or could. We got out. Left independent states...including my original country Croatia.

The world just doesn't operate like a video game. Where the gamer has control. Reality is a lot more complicated, where the fog of war sees even the best plans often go awry.

I'll leave you with a thought: American engagement has correlated to the highest absolute and per capita GDP as well as best distribution of income and wealth ever achieved. We're not perfect. We've made mistakes. But overall all the USA is beneficent...something I know as an immigrant, ex soldier, and corporate professional.

This is an ignorant opinion. I'm an ex US Army officer. I happened to serve in Korea, supported Desert Storm, and was in the Balkan wars in the 90s.

Suffice it to say, the USA doesn't impose itself against the wishes of host nations. We offered to leave South Korea, Japan, and Europe a few times. They insist we stay...for obvious reasons.

The USA ended the Balkan wars when nobody else would or could. We got out. Left independent states...including my original country Croatia.

The world just doesn't operate like a video game. Where the gamer has control. Reality is a lot more complicated, where the fog of war sees even the best plans often go awry.

I'll leave you with a thought: American engagement has correlated to the highest absolute and per capita GDP as well as best distribution of income and wealth ever achieved. We're not perfect. We've made mistakes. But overall all the USA is beneficent...something I know as an immigrant, ex soldier, and corporate professional.
Looks like a number of our former allies are aligning with brics because they're sick of us using them and their land for our bases and missiles controlling them through economic incentives and punishing other countries through economic sanctions. The dollar as the reserve currency is coming to an end.
Countries you mentioned such as Japan and Korea tolerate us because they need us to protect them from their enemy North korea. I'm not criticizing the military or the Personnel who joined the military I believe that they are duped. Or just need a profession. Then they are taking advantage of and are deemed disposable for the advancement of the agenda for the super rich and the Deep state. I don't know why you use a fictitious dispersion of income as a sound basis for your argument. It has nothing to do with anything. And it's very very incorrect. Just because you're still brainwashed by the mainstream media and approved of us attacking Iraq over weapons of mass destruction lies.
 
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That’s a complete lie !

The Fort Hood shooter being a perfect example.
He was an Islamic sympathizer

Would you cite where America has bullied and killed the rest of the world to push the elites’ agenda?

And would you cite the “elites” agenda for us?

In the last 80 years, what land has America annexed ?
Oh I don't know we overthrew the government of Nicaragua because they wanted the privatize their fruit industry. We overthrew the leader of chili and implemented a dictator who killed millions of his people. We overthrew a democratically elected leader of Iran and put in a ruthless dictator that led to the attack on the US Embassy. We assassinated the prime minister of italy. We attacked Iraq over a lie of weapons of mass destruction. We dropped two nuclear weapons on Japan when they we're ready to surrender. We tested psychotropic drugs on the entire population of a small town in France. We assassinated the president in order to placate the military industrial complex and go to war in Vietnam in order to test our weapons. The atrocities in Vietnam are too many to mention. We told I rock it was okay to go into Kuwait because they were side drilling into Iraq's oil fields and then we use it as an excuse to invade. We blatantly stole election in 2020 in order to put the puppets back into power. We used MK Ultra to have Sirhan Sirhan assassinate RFK. We assassinated Martin Luther King and blamed it on a guy who wasn't even in town at the time. We MK Ultra Charles Manson so he would go up and Murder movie stars and the rich and Beverly Hills in order to give flower power a bad name. We've called multiple economic meltdowns not only for our country but for the world over greed and the consolidation of wealth. We blatantly took ownership of Hawaii against the Kings wishes. And do I have to remind you about Teddy Roosevelt and his adventures and lands he's annexed. We also implemented the Monroe Doctrine where we wiped out millions of indigenous people. And this is all just the tip of the iceberg. When the Berlin Wall fell we could have helped to Russia become a democratically strong capitalistic Society but instead used big business to enrich ourselves and raise up the criminal oligarchs all the while surrounding them with NATO, a thing we promise we would never do that is the reason for why we are in a proxy war with Russia right now in Ukraine. We exterminated millions of Germans after World War II something that has never spoken about. We took hundreds of thousands of Japanese US citizens and put them in concentration camps. Because we allowed the semiconductor industry to leave for third world countries we are now willing to go to war to protect that technology with a country that it actually belongs to. We have killed millions of Arabs and Muslims which is probably the reason why this guy drove his car through a crowd of people
 
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You're a scumbag piece of shit.
That's a real intelligent response. Something I would expect from a mainstream media brainwashed idiot who never does research on his own but believes in the Great American Dream and the equality of all men founded by a bunch of property owning slave owning rich people who were Freemasons who didn't want to pay tax. By the way Freemasonry is nothing but gnosticism. If you don't understand any of these terms look it up
 
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Oh well let's not forget that we removed ourselves from the gold standard so we can create a Ponzi scheme. Then lie to the American people when the gold disappeared. And I was at Ground Zero 911 and I know it was an inside job headed up by Israeli intelligence. I heard the detonations as the buildings were free falling. Our country is evil and anyone who thinks that God favors our country is in for a big Awakening because the consequences are of our actions are going to haunt very soon
 
And let's not forget about Venezuela. CIA gave that man cancer simply because he wanted to increase the standard of living for his people and threw out all the oil companies and nationalize them. And he was raising the standard of living until they killed him and now Venezuela is a complete mess but this country doesn't give a s*** because they enrich themselves off of The Starving people of that as well
 
Poor Pat Tillman learn the hard way. Couldn't believe what he had signed up for had sacrificed his football career for and when he started the voices concerns he was killed with the excuse of Friendly Fire. Yet one stupid poster on here said that I was a piece of s***. What a naive clown
 
And all of this happens because the American people are the most ignorant stupid people on the face of the Earth who have a superiority complex and are unable to see the truth when it's sitting right in front of them. Satan loves our country
 
Someone explain to me why president dementia let all those unvetted aliens across our border? Then relocated them to swing States hoping to steal this latest election so that the Democrats would be elected constantly once they were expedited to citizenry. But the primary reason they let them in is for the terrorism acts that we are going to see by the sleeper cells that are all over this country. He knew what he was letting in but he's a puppet and he went along with the Deep State because they told him to do it. There's no other explanation why he would have done what he did. I just hope Trump gets in office before this crazy bastard in the White House starts bombing Iran or starts a nuclear war with Russia. But that probably won't happen because they're already using their tools so to speak such as the first documented case of bird flu in Louisiana which will probably turn into a pandemic, multiple terrorist attacks that will occur over the next 20 days, this strange fog that's setting in all over the place that is making people sick, and of course the orbs and the plasma and the drones that are obviously military industrial complex vehicles. They're going to declare martial law and there's got to be no transition of power as president dementia takes us down to hell with him
 
And all of this happens because the American people are the most ignorant stupid people on the face of the Earth who have a superiority complex and are unable to see the truth when it's sitting right in front of them. Satan loves our country
Dude, what the F are you doing? Yes, there's much truth to what you're saying, and America is a deeply flawed country. But I think we got it. And we're all Americans, this is the country we owe everything to. That's just a fact. Maybe I'm sentimental about it, in spite of all the havoc America has wreaked in the world as you seem very hip to, but it will always be my home and I will always love it. I wouldn't be here without it. None of us would. You don't have to change a thing about your opinion, but just keep that in mind.
 
Looks like a number of our former allies are aligning with brics because they're sick of us using them and their land for our bases and missiles controlling them through economic incentives and punishing other countries through economic sanctions. The dollar as the reserve currency is coming to an end.
Countries you mentioned such as Japan and Korea tolerate us because they need us to protect them from their enemy North korea. I'm not criticizing the military or the Personnel who joined the military I believe that they are duped. Or just need a profession. Then they are taking advantage of and are deemed disposable for the advancement of the agenda for the super rich and the Deep state. I don't know why you use a fictitious dispersion of income as a sound basis for your argument. It has nothing to do with anything. And it's very very incorrect. Just because you're still brainwashed by the mainstream media and approved of us attacking Iraq over weapons of mass destruction lies.


I support your freedom to believe what you want. But, you're not playing with a full deck.
 
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So it is. I spoke too soon. I was watching the games and the initial report I glanced at didn't mention terrorism and it appeared to have enough of the hallmarks of a loan gunman type scenario, which would not be at all surprising in this country. Where those things happen all the time to varying degrees of death and destruction, and if this guy was a vet as reported, he might be more inclined to go ham with it. And in any case it didn't sound like a terrorist attack at first blush. And it's nevertheless true that the war on terror is never ending, and is almost like a self fulfilling prophecy.

I don't want to get in an argument over this but I don't care what the families think. Grieving families don't decide policy for an entire nation. And there's no evidence that I'm privy to at least that advanced surveillance is implemented with any of the safeguards you allude to. The direct opposite is indeed the whole point of domestic surveillance.
Advanced surveillance just detected individuals planting bombs

So maybe you should consider rethinking your position
 
That is not the definition of terrorism

One guy had set 4 bombs with 3 other people who are still at large.

You dont see the difference ?
he does.
The word 'terrorism', semantically refers to the idea of blowing up bombs in a Paris subway or something, in the hopes of the govt. meeting your political demands, And so you 'terrorize' the public until they give in, and keep them in a state of terror. This is nothing like that. There'd be no basis for good-faith categorizing it as terrorism.
The official usage of terrorism has been so diluted that it can refer to just about anything. IF you go back to the original word it will apply to the NOLA attack, if it walks like a duck.
 
Oh well let's not forget that we removed ourselves from the gold standard so we can create a Ponzi scheme. Then lie to the American people when the gold disappeared. And I was at Ground Zero 911 and I know it was an inside job headed up by Israeli intelligence. I heard the detonations as the buildings were free falling. Our country is evil and anyone who thinks that God favors our country is in for a big Awakening because the consequences are of our actions are going to haunt very soon

Gold only has value because people believe it has value. The same as the U$ dollar. The same as crypto.

The Ponzi scheme was already well entrenched before we left the gold standard.
 
Dear Talentless Mr Ripley,

Your contempt for those of us that have honorably served this nation is appalling. Yes, you are free to speak your opinion (most of it is baseless and delusional) and that is due to our military that you have that very right. Based on your rhetoric, maybe you would feel more at home commenting on another site than a college football forum.

There is no need for you to respond, because you have nothing of importance to say that would remotely garner my attention moving forward.
 
Dear Talentless Mr Ripley,

Your contempt for those of us that have honorably served this nation is appalling. Yes, you are free to speak your opinion (most of it is baseless and delusional) and that is due to our military that you have that very right. Based on your rhetoric, maybe you would feel more at home commenting on another site than a college football forum.

There is no need for you to respond, because you have nothing of importance to say that would remotely garner my attention moving forward.
I don't have this stain for the military as I've already said. You guys were just Pawns in a bigger game. However let's stop with the big reverence for the military veterans. You guys chose to sign up because you needed a job. You got paid. You got all sorts of other benefits. You're no different than a fireman. So sick of people saying thank you for your service when the person voluntarily decided they wanted to shoot other people
 
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