The Ohio born and bred dude has 6 young kids who love where they are, a wife who is Ohio born and bred and loves Cincinnati, and he makes over 5 million a year. Sometimes you're good until the job you really want opens up.
Fighting Kelly’s of LSU
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I'm asking you.
Ryan Day is rumored to go to the NFL every year so who knows.. I'm kinda thinking that it's just waiting for a near perfect fit whether NFL or College and the timing didn't quite work out with ND as he wasn't willing to talk until his playoff run was over and Jack's pants were on fire as they needed to keep the recruiting class intact.
I am of the belief that he did not want the Notre Dame job.
Doubtful?
BK never lost to UNC, the only ranked team on the schedule not named Ohio State, he was 59-0 vs unranked opponents. So, by logic and reason, a BK led ND team would have beaten Marshall and Stanford.
Additionally, the last time BK was looking at Buchner and Pyne as his QB's coming into a season. He mined the portal and got Jack Coan. My guess is he would have brought another 5th year QB into the fold.
And lastly if 11-1 is quitting? Then I hope the next coach ND hires is a "quitter" too. Because 11-1 beats 6-6 any day.
Really? So I guess the losses to unranked Texas, Duke, NCState, Stanford, Navy, and VaTech in 2016, Kelly's 7th season at ND don't count?
We can add USF, Navy again, and Tulsa to that list. I'm sure I'm missing a few others.
Better if he got someone in the portal, yes. Not better if he stuck with Pyne and Buchner
He was not 59 and 0 against unranked opponents. Navy twice, tulsa, usf, many others.
He also had 4 and 8 years and a bunch of 8 win seasons.
Like I said, doubtful
Brian Kelly is a solid coach. He restored ND to respectability, going as far as he could given self imposed restrictions. Like it or not, he is an outlier among Davie, Willingham, Weis, and, for now until the full verdict is out, Freeman.
From the limited time I've seen LSU this season, he looks to be doing well overall. My eye test alone yesterday saw LSU has players and a potential way above ND. And, let's be honest, CBK is at this point a much better coach than a Freeman who clearly by now is learning on the job...which we suspected given a lack of coaching experience.
Finally, the way college football is a semi-pro farm, it favors CBK succeeding. It weighs down an already challenged Freeman. I don't get emotional about any of this, because it really is what it is...nothing we can do about it.
I will continue to root or ND and Freeman, knowing the odds are against being a top 10 team consistently, never mind that elusive NC. I wish CBK the best, thanking him for turning the program around, even if he wasn't perfect.
From the limited time I've seen LSU this season, he looks to be doing well overall. My eye test alone yesterday saw LSU has players and a potential way above ND. And, let's be honest, CBK is at this point a much better coach than a Freeman who clearly by now is learning on the job...which we suspected given a lack of coaching experience.
Finally, the way college football is a semi-pro farm, it favors CBK succeeding. It weighs down an already challenged Freeman. I don't get emotional about any of this, because it really is what it is...nothing we can do about it.
I will continue to root or ND and Freeman, knowing the odds are against being a top 10 team consistently, never mind that elusive NC. I wish CBK the best, thanking him for turning the program around, even if he wasn't perfect.
The game is in 2 weeks, and you know what happens when BK has extra time to prepare for a game. 😂 He's certainly no Lou Holtz. 😂
I'm sure Saban is going to properly welcome him to the SEC west.
Anything could happen but most likely Bama will beat LSU in two weeks and should. Bama has the better roster, and players that have been in the Saban system for years. That loss will say nothing about Kelly or LSU.
Winning the Natty is about talent first and then coaching. You have to have it across all positions and also in the 3 deep. Small deltas in the talent gap can have massive impacts in results along the way to winning it all. So while there is solid talent at many schools, it takes the right ones to pull it off. 2019 LSU and Tennessee this year are examples of when the mix is right. Bama, OSU, and GA are factories for top talent on the field and much more riding the bench until their number is called.
Two raving fools won it at LSU and Kelly will have a great shot to do it too.
Winning the Natty is about talent first and then coaching. You have to have it across all positions and also in the 3 deep. Small deltas in the talent gap can have massive impacts in results along the way to winning it all. So while there is solid talent at many schools, it takes the right ones to pull it off. 2019 LSU and Tennessee this year are examples of when the mix is right. Bama, OSU, and GA are factories for top talent on the field and much more riding the bench until their number is called.
Two raving fools won it at LSU and Kelly will have a great shot to do it too.
Anything could happen but most likely Bama will beat LSU in two weeks and should. Bama has the better roster, and players that have been in the Saban system for years. That loss will say nothing about Kelly or LSU.
Winning the Natty is about talent first and then coaching. You have to have it across all positions and also in the 3 deep. Small deltas in the talent gap can have massive impacts in results along the way to winning it all. So while there is solid talent at many schools, it takes the right ones to pull it off. 2019 LSU and Tennessee this year are examples of when the mix is right. Bama, OSU, and GA are factories for top talent on the field and much more riding the bench until their number is called.
Two raving fools won it at LSU and Kelly will have a great shot to do it too.
Winning the Natty is about talent first and then coaching. You have to have it across all positions and also in the 3 deep. Small deltas in the talent gap can have massive impacts in results along the way to winning it all. So while there is solid talent at many schools, it takes the right ones to pull it off. 2019 LSU and Tennessee this year are examples of when the mix is right. Bama, OSU, and GA are factories for top talent on the field and much more riding the bench until their number is called.
Two raving fools won it at LSU and Kelly will have a great shot to do it too.
It would be unreasonable to claim that Kelly should have gone undefeated.
Yes, there were games that that he never should have lost.
I have a theory about that
I think this game is going to be closer than you think or what Vegas might say. I wouldn’t be surprised if Vegas punishes bettors for taking Bama and have the line close to 10.
If it was played after a loss and a bye week in Bryant Denny it would be another thing.. LSU has enough front line guys(pass rush, TE, RB etc) to keep it close and I think they can hold up on the back end better than Tennessee did.
We’ll be watching 😬
Kelly went out and got a transfer QB from Arizona State (former 4* recruit who had already started for 2+ years). That's really the difference between LSU and ND this season, IMO. They have a better QB.
significantly better QB. Their QB probably has abilities that no QB at ND had under kelly. Dynamic runner and passer. Still getting better. I said that watching him first game of the year, and it's showing now.
No doubt this is significant. But that is definitely not the only difference. LSU can get 4&5 stars in depth. ND cannot.
LSU is also a destination for a top coach aspiring for a NC. ND isn’t.
I use Stanford and Andrew Luck as a basis of comparison. Stanford was very good with him and sone good skill players. But not elite.
Stanford now is also struggling similar to ND. The player Darwinian arms race has evolved even more the past few years. ND and Stanford are in a weaker position than ever given their standards.
Yet both remain strong brands. Both could turn it around and be elite if they made academic and NIL accommodation. I’ve long posted both could without moral or academic compromise. Offering a progressive remedial degree program…not least with a finance angle for players to wisely save and invest their NIL money.
I bet Stanford as a secular school does this before ND. I’m a Catholic, but this is one area where misapplied Catholic self righteousness rears itself. Listen to some ND alumni here..,who’ve told me they’d rather ND be weaker than “compromise”.
Don’t get me wrong, as I respect such folks. They mean well. But as I said, I think moral righteousness is misapplied here…throwing away a chance to do a social good and maintain a magical football brand enhancing ND and Catholic identity,
Jesus Christ. You’d think such a prestigious school has the intellectual, moral, and creative capital to make lemonade out of the college football semipro farce. It can be done.
If they won’t, fine, I’ll follow and root forever. But the brand cannot last and will lose younger folks. Where Notre Dame Fighting Irish glory will be a distant memory…something abstract to a team outside of being a real football competitor.
What were his big wins at Cinci/ND? Oklahoma in 2012?Yes, his first ever
LSU has been a very resilient team these last two weeks; against Florida they were down 14 to 7 and then 21-14 with what looked like zero defensive resistance, but they hung in there and came back. Today, they were down 14 to 3 and Mississippi had first and goal, held them to a field goal, and now has Jaden Daniels running for first downs seemingly every play.
And he has done this with only 39 scholarship players coming in.
45-3 run after being down 17-3.
Toledo QB slides down Toledo wins. He stupidly scored a TD extending the game. Chippy FG sends ND to 1-1.
Loved your "MAGIC MARCUS" monniker. Plus, it put me in mind of a possible ND marketing campaign that could utilize it -- and with potential NIL IMPLICATIONS.
Namely, MARCUS'S MAGIC MARKER. With an ad campaign built around two potential slogans: a) MAKING YOUR MARK WITH A MARCUS and/or b) MARK IT LIKE MARCUS.
And it would, of course, come in only one color, KELLY GREEN, to reflect the "smooth baton hand off" of one ND coach to another.
A nonproft distributor could be set up with the PROCEEDS being shared among those ND players with the finest MARCUS'S MAGIC MARKER (MMM) penmanship.
The first TV commercial could show ND's starting 22 all packed into a classroom and sitting at UNDERSIZED DESKS practicing using their MMM's.
The voiceover dude would ask, "TEAM, HAVE YOU MASTERED THE USE OF YOUR MARCUS'S MAGIC MARKER?
To which the class, WHILE FLASHING OPEN THERE NOTEBOOKS, would respond in unison -- Naval Cadet style -- "YES, SIR, WE CAN. WE EXECUTE!"
The camera would then pan from notebook to notebook showing several players' MMM handwrtten renditions of "WE EXECUTE!"
To which the voiceover dude, his voice RIPE WITH EMOTION, would exclaim, "FINALLY!"
Think about it. You're just a TRADEMARK AWAY . . .
I agree with your football nerdism. How ever I would not coach players to do that. I am not even sure if during a timeout I would advise them to think about not scoring a td.
He may not have lost to UNC, but he lost to Tulsa, USF, Navy x 2, an unranked Stanford, and a few others, so please explain 59-0 vs unranked teams. Are you referring to the last 4 years, because if that's the case than it just shows how SOFT those schedules were. 😂 BK is the epitome of a paper champion. He'll never win a NC. 😂
Was easy to dunk on Kelly after that embarrassing loss to Tennessee. But that may have been a testament to how good the vols are. Offense looks unstoppable.
Kelly has done about as well as you could expect him to do so far this season
Kelly has done about as well as you could expect him to do so far this season
Kelly will win his games at LSU. The question is will he win a championship? I don't believe he will. He will be able to bring in the elite talent, but so will several other programs in the SEC.
It will come down to coaching and he will be out coached just as he has been while at ND when faced with a top tier coach. LSU won't give 10 years to figure it out, he'll have 4-5 or he'll be out the door.
To be honest, he’s done better than I thought though there’s still time in which things can go wrong. Daniels has gotten stronger every game this season as well and is living up to his high school potential after generally disappointing at ASU.
Kelly is a QB whisperer……any guy that can turn TR and IB into ND superstars can get it done!
That's one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever heard, which you're lamely attempting to sympathize with, from a blatant troll. Obviously just to F with BK and most definitely not to be taken seriously. That a QB, Toledo's QB, facing mighty ND, is going to somehow have the presence of mind, as he breaks away untouched striding towards the end zone, not to score the game-winning TD, repeat NOT TO SCORE THE TD.... And instead slide to a stop at around the 3 yard, so they can then proceed to bleed the clock down to a few seconds and kick the game-winning FG as time expires.
And in so doing thus deny ND and Jack Coan their chance to drive the field, in what, it took us three plays and and 45 seconds?? And score the game-winning TD which is exactly what we did and F Toledo....
So it doesn't matter what you as the hypothetical 'coach' would ever advise your players to do or not do. Nobody anywhere would ever effin' do that. You're just talking shit.
Zero football IQ right here ^
There's a lot of you on this forum.
It’s unreal. Pretty easily can find situations where a player could’ve scored, didn’t and the team either runs out the clock or goes into v formation and kicks the FG.
guess dudes didn’t see how the Jets beat the browns this year
