Drew Pyne to The Portal
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Yeah… you have no knowledge about him. That he was offered by Alabama , LSU . Georgia , Florida. , Michigan , Ohio St .
He fininished TY in top 20 of all QBs nationally . After not playing in basically 3 years !
Agree completely. Well stated. But most posters have little to no football acumen. Just fans who think they know more than the coaches. They’ve never seen a practice , know nothing about skill sets , leadership, reads , progressions , etc.
Because I’m from Texas and I’ve watched him play.. he played very well the games Ewers was injured in particular the Alabama game. And to add to this I’ve seen Buchner play this year and last and I’d take Card over him any day of the week
You are entitled to your opinion. But you really demonstrate a lack of football knowledge .
DP had little to no experience the last two years . He was thrust into the game after an injury . The receiving corps was very in experienced. The OL had yet to come together. He finished in the top 20 of all major programs QBs . And by all accounts was well respected by staff and teammates . He completed over 80% of passes against SC the #4 team in the nation. I could go on and on but you experts have no football acumen .
Good post.
The amount of criticism that kid receives in this Forum is borderline ridiculous.
Massive mistake by a 36 yo rookie Head Coach, and a 30 year old OC, who were out from under the watchful eye of Brian Kelly. Pyne was a 3rd string emergency QB, he saw the field twice in 2021. The Wisconsin game, because Coan got hurt, and Buchner was not dressed, and then the UC game, because the offense was trying "ANYTHING" for a spark, down 0-17. That's it!
Coming into this season and NOT adding a 5th year QB, likely cost ND 2-3 games, and potentially being in the CFP discussion. The QB room had Buchner an unproven player, and Pyne a 3rd stringer. Knowing that Buchner was unproven and a runner, and Pyne was at best an emergency QB.
Not adding a QB was a flat-out disaster. I am quite sure MF learned from this season, this kind of mistake is how you turn a 11–12-win program, into an 8–9-win program really quick.
FYI 8-4 is cool year 1, when you take over a 6-6 program, going 8-4, year 1, when you took over an 11-1 program, uses up your mulligan.
Marcus Freeman took over a Mercedes Benz program, and 8-4 is a loaded Toyota Avalon season. My suggestion would be to avoid any more single digit win seasons
Coming into this season and NOT adding a 5th year QB, likely cost ND 2-3 games, and potentially being in the CFP discussion. The QB room had Buchner an unproven player, and Pyne a 3rd stringer. Knowing that Buchner was unproven and a runner, and Pyne was at best an emergency QB.
Not adding a QB was a flat-out disaster. I am quite sure MF learned from this season, this kind of mistake is how you turn a 11–12-win program, into an 8–9-win program really quick.
FYI 8-4 is cool year 1, when you take over a 6-6 program, going 8-4, year 1, when you took over an 11-1 program, uses up your mulligan.
Marcus Freeman took over a Mercedes Benz program, and 8-4 is a loaded Toyota Avalon season. My suggestion would be to avoid any more single digit win seasons
Stop being so soft. Too many snowflakes around.
Geez its a message board with all adults.
Asking for someone to be banned lol
Yeah and then if ND gets beaten , you’ll be one of the ones who bash program for another bowl lose.
Do you know that MF and TR did not pursue a transfer QB... I mean, it is a two-way street.
You saw 2+ games , of which they lost one so you can make that decision that he’s that special.yeah Buchner played 1+game against Ohio St away in front of 105,000 + fans . And after not playing since his junior year in HS.
once again another ridiculous statement with no data to substantiate .
Let's compare acumen shall we? I'll start. It's obvious that the coaches told him he is back in the mix. But not the guy. THEY are going into the portal. This means that they, unlike you, see that Drew Pyne's ceiling is pretty much where he is now. And to WIN at a high level they need better. Apparently they have no acumen either.
More bs from you. You have enough hot air to float the Good Year blimp.
Not soft at all . Just exude a little more class than that and you obviously. You don’t know who is on this site .
“Thank god. I’ll never know why he was offered a scholly anyway. Terrible scouting”
He ended up #20 in the country in pass efficiency and he didn’t deserve a scholarship? Lol. Pyne made some mistakes & has some physical limitations but he doesn’t deserve this type of criticism. I’m not saying he’s what we’re all looking for to be the qb at ND, but questioning him being good enough to get a scholarship is so over the top. A first time starter w/ 3 yrs of eligibility left that ends up #20 in the country is better than “never knowing why he was offered a scholly”. Would we have had a better season w/ a better qb? No doubt, but some of the criticism is unwarranted.
He ended up #20 in the country in pass efficiency and he didn’t deserve a scholarship? Lol. Pyne made some mistakes & has some physical limitations but he doesn’t deserve this type of criticism. I’m not saying he’s what we’re all looking for to be the qb at ND, but questioning him being good enough to get a scholarship is so over the top. A first time starter w/ 3 yrs of eligibility left that ends up #20 in the country is better than “never knowing why he was offered a scholly”. Would we have had a better season w/ a better qb? No doubt, but some of the criticism is unwarranted.
3x All League and All region player in HS.
Played as a true frosh at one of the Academies.
Transferred and played 4 seasons at another D 1 school.
Played 2 years in the CFL
Coached 3 seasons at a D3 school. Including DC when school won first conference title in history.
Coached 1 season at a JC
10 years as a HS DC
5 years as an OC.
10 years as a HS HC Led one school to 4 league titles in 4 years. School had one in their history prior (opened in 1915) and that one was 30 years before the first one we got. Was Regional coach of the year. Received a Key to the City for leading the program to unprecedented levels.
Took a team that was 0-10 the year before I got there to 7-3 and sectional playoffs in year 3.
Took another team that was 0-10 the year before I got there and hadn't been to the playoffs in 10 years to 6-4, 8-2 in years 3 and 4 and two playoff appearances.
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That's fair. That's not what he was talking about though
The kid should never have been given a scholarship though. He was only given one because of his last name.
And that was the previous staff. It's a waste of a scholarship
He was more than likely going to be a backup next year. He tasted a starting role at Teir 1 team. He had his best game of the season, so he is "selling high". I'm a bit surprised he didn't take the bowl ride, start, have some fun. I doubt 3 weeks would make a difference.
Its the right move for him. You got 3, 5 starish guys in front of you in the next 2 years. Who knows who we are bringing in from the portal.
I dont see him riding the bench for 3 years and it highly unlikely he would start over the next 3 years unless there was another injury and we dont land a portal stud.
Its the right move for him. You got 3, 5 starish guys in front of you in the next 2 years. Who knows who we are bringing in from the portal.
I dont see him riding the bench for 3 years and it highly unlikely he would start over the next 3 years unless there was another injury and we dont land a portal stud.
His final stats were actually pretty decent - 2,021 yds, 22 TDs, 6 INTs, and a QB rating (155.3) higher than those of Dillon Gabriel, JJ McCarthy, Will Levis, Cameron Rising and Stetson Bennett. That could be a testament to how talented our offense was around him, but nevertheless, decent stats overall.
Bottom line. He has intangibles. Competitor, Great teammate/leader, Smart. BUT he is physically limited. He get's the most out of what he has but there is no way he is good enough to elevate ND to an Elite team. We saw it vs SC. He played lights out but committed to unforced turnovers that were without a doubt the two biggest turning points in the game.
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