How many of these similar articles were there for Urban and other coaches as well?
How did all of those work out? Articles are fun, and talking points are cool to see. But reality rarely shares a boat with them.
Cgvr, should Coach Kelly be fired?
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How many of these similar articles were there for Urban and other coaches as well?
How did all of those work out? Articles are fun, and talking points are cool to see. But reality rarely shares a boat with them.
Have you been to a Hooters? People take kids to Hooters. It's as harmless as Applebee's.
Thanks for the chuckle.
"Way back in May of 2009, when President Obama was still selling himself to the nation as a post-partisan healer-in-chief, he was awarded an honorary degree and delivered the commencement address at the University of Notre Dame. The decision by the most famous Catholic university in America to honor a staunchly pro-abortion president was met with some protest. Harvard law professor Mary Ann Glendon declined to receive an award from Notre Dame and share the stage with Obama that day. She noted that the U.S. Catholic bishops had formally declared in 2004 that Catholic institutions "should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles." The university responded by saying that bringing Obama to campus was a "good thing for the president and for the causes we care about."
"Fast forward three years to May of 2012, and the University of Notre Dame has gone from honoring President Obama to suing his administration for violating the most basic liberties protected under the First Amendment."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/three...ampling-first-amendment-rights/article/645246
"The first performance of The Vagina Monologues at Notre Dame generated fierce debate along with capacity crowds." One by one, characters step to the microphone and reminisce and muse in R-rated terms about sexual pleasure and practices, along with universal female experiences like their first menstrual period and gynecological exams." "Those urging the show be banned said it presents deviant, immoral behavior as normal and healthy. Two of the monologues involve lesbian encounters, and one of the characters is a prostitute."
http://magazine.nd.edu/news/15763-vagina-monologues-stir-debate/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vagina_Monologues
& then there's bozo dipping his toe into racism...
"Brian Kelly needs to answer some tough questions for Notre Dame"
"But consider that the Notre Dame administration might want Kelly to answer some tough questions during their scheduled interview Tuesday in New York. The toughest ones have nothing to do with his well-documented background working for Democratic presidential candidate
Gary Hart 25 years ago or Kelly's alleged pro-choice beliefs."But he embroiled himself in controversy explaining why several CMU players may have perjured themselves trying to protect a teammate.
"For example, a number of them were African-Americans that had been in thatculture
of violence, and they're taught to look away," Kelly said in the Sept. 22, 2005, edition of the Detroit Free Press. "You don't want anything to do with it. Get out of there. You don't say anything to anybody."That is a culture that they are immersed in. When they come here, their first reaction is to react the way they've been taught to react in their culture and in their environment. That's difficult."
In response, then-Central Michigan University president Michael Rao reprimanded Kelly for remarks that "appalled and offended" his boss."
There's a lot more. Your premise is senseless...
Right. No problem giving an Honorary Doctorate Degree to an incompetent President who is pro-life or hiring a head football coach who is pro-life but there's no way we would entertain a successful coach with a ND affiliation who likes Hooter's chicken wings.
Makes sense.
Never been, but the establishment---fairly or unfairly---has a reputation that I doubt the ND administration would like.
Right. No problem giving an Honorary Doctorate Degree to an incompetent President who is pro-life or hiring a head football coach who is pro-life but there's no way we would entertain a successful coach with a ND affiliation who likes Hooter's chicken wings.
Makes sense.
Despite the political attack in your thread which is against board rules, why would ND have a problem with a coach who is pro-life? Talk about not making any sense.
Why would anyone have a problem with a President who is pro-choice, like most women, most voters, the Supreme Court and why would anyone here not expect to see Notre Dame honor a man who honored this land by bringing it back from financial disaster, wars and worldwide humiliation.
Silly Notre Dame??? No, just very dumb and blind posters filled with hate.
Silly Notre Dame??? No, just very dumb and blind posters filled with hate.
Thanks for the chuckle.
"Way back in May of 2009, when President Obama was still selling himself to the nation as a post-partisan healer-in-chief, he was awarded an honorary degree and delivered the commencement address at the University of Notre Dame. The decision by the most famous Catholic university in America to honor a staunchly pro-abortion president was met with some protest. Harvard law professor Mary Ann Glendon declined to receive an award from Notre Dame and share the stage with Obama that day. She noted that the U.S. Catholic bishops had formally declared in 2004 that Catholic institutions "should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles." The university responded by saying that bringing Obama to campus was a "good thing for the president and for the causes we care about."
"Fast forward three years to May of 2012, and the University of Notre Dame has gone from honoring President Obama to suing his administration for violating the most basic liberties protected under the First Amendment."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/three...ampling-first-amendment-rights/article/645246
"The first performance of The Vagina Monologues at Notre Dame generated fierce debate along with capacity crowds." One by one, characters step to the microphone and reminisce and muse in R-rated terms about sexual pleasure and practices, along with universal female experiences like their first menstrual period and gynecological exams." "Those urging the show be banned said it presents deviant, immoral behavior as normal and healthy. Two of the monologues involve lesbian encounters, and one of the characters is a prostitute."
http://magazine.nd.edu/news/15763-vagina-monologues-stir-debate/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vagina_Monologues
& then there's bozo dipping his toe into racism...
"Brian Kelly needs to answer some tough questions for Notre Dame"
"But consider that the Notre Dame administration might want Kelly to answer some tough questions during their scheduled interview Tuesday in New York. The toughest ones have nothing to do with his well-documented background working for Democratic presidential candidate
But he embroiled himself in controversy explaining why several CMU players may have perjured themselves trying to protect a teammate.
"For example, a number of them were African-Americans that had been in thatculture
"That is a culture that they are immersed in. When they come here, their first reaction is to react the way they've been taught to react in their culture and in their environment. That's difficult."
In response, then-Central Michigan University president Michael Rao reprimanded Kelly for remarks that "appalled and offended" his boss."
There's a lot more. Your premise is senseless...
As I put you on ignore, I am seriously hoping that you finally get the psychiatric help you need. You claim to be an ND alum, but your apparent neurosis and obsession with Brian Kelly makes it very difficult to believe anything you say. I graduated from ND in 1992 and I'm one of five members of my immediate family who graduated from ND. I know of no ND-educated person who would rant and rave on this board like you do. Some of my roommates and friends from ND aren't fans of Kelly either. But I don't know any reasonable person who despises a football coach---yes, a football coach--- with such an intense passion like you do. Your hatred of the man is beyond irrational. Indeed, it's pathological. Perhaps you should be tested for early onset dementia---at the very least you have a problem with anger. Please, for your own sake, see a psychiatrist. You're a sick man. No need to reply---you're going on ignore right now.
Lucky you, you were at Notre Dame during a great time for iRISH football.
I just watched a movie about Lassie being used on the front lines as a War dog and Lassie suffered post traumatic syndrome. They were going to put Lassie to sleep because she got wild and started attacking Livestock. They had a trial and Lassie was vindicated because she was a war hero. This movie was made before PTSD was really considered a medical problem.
They also have found that dogs used in Iraq and Afghanistan also suffer from PTSD. And Doctors are now treating the dogs like the humans that suffer from the affects of war.
A great movie !
Thanks for the chuckle.
"Way back in May of 2009, when President Obama was still selling himself to the nation as a post-partisan healer-in-chief, he was awarded an honorary degree and delivered the commencement address at the University of Notre Dame. The decision by the most famous Catholic university in America to honor a staunchly pro-abortion president was met with some protest. Harvard law professor Mary Ann Glendon declined to receive an award from Notre Dame and share the stage with Obama that day. She noted that the U.S. Catholic bishops had formally declared in 2004 that Catholic institutions "should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles." The university responded by saying that bringing Obama to campus was a "good thing for the president and for the causes we care about."
"Fast forward three years to May of 2012, and the University of Notre Dame has gone from honoring President Obama to suing his administration for violating the most basic liberties protected under the First Amendment."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/three...ampling-first-amendment-rights/article/645246
"The first performance of The Vagina Monologues at Notre Dame generated fierce debate along with capacity crowds." One by one, characters step to the microphone and reminisce and muse in R-rated terms about sexual pleasure and practices, along with universal female experiences like their first menstrual period and gynecological exams." "Those urging the show be banned said it presents deviant, immoral behavior as normal and healthy. Two of the monologues involve lesbian encounters, and one of the characters is a prostitute."
http://magazine.nd.edu/news/15763-vagina-monologues-stir-debate/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vagina_Monologues
& then there's bozo dipping his toe into racism...
"Brian Kelly needs to answer some tough questions for Notre Dame"
"But consider that the Notre Dame administration might want Kelly to answer some tough questions during their scheduled interview Tuesday in New York. The toughest ones have nothing to do with his well-documented background working for Democratic presidential candidate
But he embroiled himself in controversy explaining why several CMU players may have perjured themselves trying to protect a teammate.
"For example, a number of them were African-Americans that had been in thatculture
"That is a culture that they are immersed in. When they come here, their first reaction is to react the way they've been taught to react in their culture and in their environment. That's difficult."
In response, then-Central Michigan University president Michael Rao reprimanded Kelly for remarks that "appalled and offended" his boss."
There's a lot more. Your premise is senseless...
I commend Coach Kelly for not bringing politics to his job. He is a professional.
Since you live in your Mom's basement you don't have to deal in the real world when people with different beliefs work together for the same goal. We just don't talk about politics at work. My political beliefs are farther right than I assume Coach Kellys are--- but I don't give a crap. I just care that he is a good football coach and a good man.
Exactly. How could Kelly's political beliefs (or Holtz's or Weis' or Willingham's for that matter) possibly have any bearing on his role as ND's coach? And why is it anyone's damn business?
I posted an article and offered no personal point of view on kelly's political or personal beliefs. I did accurately point out that he has made racist remarks. In addition, you may want to look at the the excuse offered by Jenkins as to why Obama was invited to campus.
Yeah, you're so in touch with ND that you believe that Jon Gruden's appearances in Hooters commercials would make him "ineligible" to coach ND. Try looking up Father Jame Burtchaell's background and the admin knowing his deviance allowed him to hang around.... Your Hooter's opinion is among the funniest and most disconnected musings ever posted on this board.
I took your advice about no politics on this board. I just went and posted some political stuff on the Irish Smack board. If people want to rant on religion or politics that is the place to go.
It's so nice to come to a place where we can have a respite from politics. And again, what does someone's political leanings have anything to do with their job as football coach? I believe it was brought up in response to my point about Hooter's and Jon Gruden. Perhaps I need to clarify, though I think others need to work on reading comprehension. Nowhere did I say that I personally thought appearing in Hooters ads disqualified him as a coach. I pointed out that the ND administration likely wouldn't tolerate it. Anyone who knows anything about ND knows that they're very concerned about their image, and there is a lot of self-righteousness that goes along with that. Given their sanctimony, I personally can't imagine ND hiring someone who appeared in ads for the place. Personally, I don't care---though I have no interest in Gruden because of his lack of college coaching experience. His lack of college experience is what disqualifies him for me.
Most comprehended exactly what you said and it was categorically ridiculous.
"I very seriously doubt that ND's administration would hire somebody who was featured in commercials for Hooters."
This post is simply "Classic" backpedaling ... pun intended.
Agree. My only point in responding in this thread was to simply say that in my opinion I doubt seriously the University is really going to be too concerned over a successful coach with ND ties being a spokesperson for a family restaurant known for its chicken wings and waitresses with nice bodies when they didn't flinch to hire a head coach, and bestow an Honorary Degree on someone adamantly against the church's and university's stance on abortion.
It wasn't meant as a judgment.
If you don't think ND self-righteously obsesses over minutiae like what I suggested, then you don't know ND very well. Why would you confuse the ND administration with what I think? Am I the ND administration? Go back and read. Then again, you were the person calling Obama and Kelly pro-life earlier in the thread. And what business is Kelly's stance any concern to you? Talk about sticking your nose into somebody's private life.
So I guess you're yet another looney with a reading comprehension problem for the ignore list. This board is a magnet for nut jobs. You and your buddy cgvr can wear your tinfoil hats and have at it. Bye-bye, whacko.
You're the one with reading comprehension challenges. You've managed to turn a mole hill into a mountain and clearly misinterpreted what was being discussed. But hey, I can't worry about your personal problems.
Just to set the record straight I didn't call Obama and Kelly pro-lifers. They called themselves that. I acknowledged what they said. And I couldn't care less what their beliefs are. Apparently either does ND. Which is exactly the point I was making. If they don't care what someone feels about a strongly held Catholic view as controversial as abortion they certainly will care less that someone the stature of Gruden is promoting a family restaurant with good looking waitresses.
You totally missed the point of this discussion.
You're right about one thing. This board is a magnet for nut jobs. You have provided ample proof of that. I welcome your ignore. It saves me from taking out the trash.
So, I agree with cvgr about you back tracking and now he's my buddy? That makes sense. Whacko indeed.
You're spot on. The poster who referenced Hooters is unglued and has no idea what end is up.
Given his lack of college head coaching experience and being so far removed from coaching, suggesting Gruden as a replacement for Kelly only reflects how unhinged some people can be. Perhaps someone forgot to take his clozapine again.
Brown must have hit his head too many times if he wants Gruden to be the ND head coach. Talk about an over rated coach.
106 Pennick4, Today at 4:30 PM
It's nice to see folks dumping on Tim Brown. Well done!!!!
106 Pennick4, Today at 4:30 PM
It's nice to see folks dumping on Tim Brown. Well done!!!!
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Fantastic player and ND representative but no thanks when it comes to picking a coach.
Swarbrick is doing just fine Thanks.
Brian Kelly agrees to extension at Notre Dame through 2021
Tim Brown is among the most decorated players in ND history and he adamantly suggested Jon Gruden as a head coach for ND. In fact, he went as far to say that he would join his staff.
You really should stop posting as it is clear you believe Tim Brown is unhinged.
It's disgraceful for you to refer to him in these terms. There isn't an ND grad/fan in the world that would do so.
I think you are making up board rules. I see nothing in there about "political attacks".
I assume you're replying to the board's resident psychotic and not to me. I recommend using the ignore function so you don't have to subject yourself to his childish, irrational tantrums and tirades. It's not worth your time trying to reason with a crazy person. How crazy? It appears that he keeps replying to me when he knows I can't read his posts. Think about that---that's pretty nuts.
Based on the juvenile behavior and puerile rantings I've seen on this board, I didn't think so. I had seen enough to know that I didn't care to see any more. What rational adult behaves like that?
I have him on ignore. Spring football is here and it is time to talk football. I am glad IIO is back.
Cgvr, should Coach Kelly be fired?
Discussion in 'Under the Dome' started by Bodizephax, Thursday at 12:10 AM.
This is probably not the best way to ignore someone. I guess you forgot that you started the thread...
being a great player doesn't make someone a quality coach. Gruden would not embrace the college game. way too many restrictions.
