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Brian Kelly

And you stating we should stick with mediocrity because you can't come up with a name to replace him comes off as hollow and lame.

Yeah, let's fire people even if we have no one in mind to replace them. How old are you? Twelve?
 
Ok, as I expected. You're just a petulant teenager who's all talk and bravado. Come back when you pass puberty and can act like an adult. You're a coward and a liar. I don't waste my time with children pretending to act like adults---let alone pretending to be an ND grad. On ignore you go. Hopefully, you'll grow up at some point. Bye!
And you sound like an adult? Get a grip.
 
Nope, you come up with one. BTW, how do you feel being put in your place by Birks? I would think you would stop talking down to people after made to look like a huge ass.

Why do I suspect that Birks is another one of your screen names? Put me in my place? Nah, it's obvious that he's lying.
 
Ok, as I expected. You're just a petulant teenager who's all talk and bravado. Come back when you pass puberty and can act like an adult. You're a coward and a liar. I don't waste my time with children pretending to act like adults---let alone pretending to be an ND grad. On ignore you go. Hopefully, you'll grow up at some point. Bye!


Yeah, whatever. I'll be at the game next week. My tailgate will be right next to Legends and the flag is red with two crossed hockey sticks that says "Shattuck" underneath. Stop by anytime.
 
Yeah, let's fire people even if we have no one in mind to replace them. How old are you? Twelve?
According to your logic, if Kelly loses all the remaining games on the schedule, we should keep him because no one can figure out who to replace him with. LOL. IDIOT. LOL. Some grown up logic there Einstein. LOL. LOL
 
According to your logic, if Kelly loses all the remaining games on the schedule, we should keep him because no one can figure out who to replace him with. LOL. IDIOT. LOL. Some grown up logic there Einstein. LOL. LOL

Yeah, that's really what I was suggesting. So, big mouth, when did you graduate from college and where? And don't lie this time.
 
Why do I suspect that Birks is another one of your screen names? Put me in my place? Nah, it's obvious that's lying.
Why, because you are so superior there could not be more than 1 person who does not agree with you. You are an arrogant and self-centered little gnat turd
 
Yeah, whatever. I'll be at the game next week. My tailgate will be right next to Legends and the flag is red with two crossed hockey sticks that says "Shattuck" underneath. Stop by anytime.
Classic won't come by because then you would discover he is a 105 pound, pimple faced geek with bottle neck glasses.
 
Why, because you are so superior there could not be more than 1 person who does not agree with you. You are an arrogant and self-centered little gnat turd

Oh, wow, how long did it take to up with that comeback? I'll tell you what: since you have nothing intelligent to say and you're frankly boring me, I'll do you a favor and put you on ignore, too. Try not to make a bigger fool of yourself while I have you on ignore. Bye!
 
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Oh, wow, how long did it take to up with that comeback? I'll tell you what: since you have nothing intelligent to say and you're frankly boring me, I'll do you a favor and put you on ignore, too. Try not to make a bigger fool of yourself while I have you on ignore. Bye!
Thank you. It gets annoying dealing with a special-ed student. You ride those little yellow buses to school, don't you?
 
Let's lay off Coach Kelly...last week at Clemson, ND may have lost by 4 TDs if it would have been with Weis or Willingham or Davie on the sideline. For the most part ND is in every game til the very end under BK. And I know a lot of u guys think the win versus Oklahoma was his only big win but the Music City bowl win versus LSU was a pretty big win to set up confidence for this year

Two yrs ago he handed Mich St their only loss
 
Come on

Classic is one of the good ones.

Agree to disagree

Thanks, DIP. But no worries. I should have looked at Birks' posting history. Interesting that he only has 10 posts on this board, all of which were posted in the past hour. Also it's rather coincidental how similar his and Pazuzu's posts are, down to similar types of insults and maturity-level. As you know, it wouldn't be the first time someone on this board created another screen name just to have someone else agree with them. Lol.
 
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I have to imagine that there is a silent majority that appreciates what this guy has done, and that the negative buffoonery represents only a vocal few. But, I want to express my view that Brian Kelly is a very good coach and a great fit for ND. Unlike Ty and Davie he gets it. He gets us. Kelly has always been a very good talent evaluator. He game-plans, prepares, and motivates very well, and his game day coaching is satisfactory (he should not have gone for 2). Despite a rash of injuries, lots of potentially crippling suspensions, and recruiting restrictions, he has built a deep and talented team. Plus, it is a team of great character. The Clemson game was rough, but the team just kept coming. Today we beat a very dangerous Navy team comfortably. Kelly has taken a struggling program back to elite status, and it is a classy group of kids who actually are student athletes. I love where the program is, and I hope we are lucky enough to have Coach Kelly for another 5 years or so.

Well in year 6 you would expect to beat navy. What are you expecting glowing reviews for beating navy? Even Bob Davie and Ty Willingham could beat navy. I was his big supporter when he was hired and still am to lesser degree but he certainly has performed below expectations so far.

He is averaging 9 wins a season which is an upgrade from what we had but still short of where we should be.

One 12-1 Season (Just 1 BCS type bowl) - got blown out by Bama
We had three 8-5 seasons
We had One 9-4 Season

He was 2-3 against really bad Michigan teams
2-3 against Stanford (average Stanford)
3-2 against average USC (not Pete Carroll Led USC) Both times we beat them they had backup QB playing.

So these numbers don't scream out that he has done great coaching job. But compare to previous two coaches he has done much better. I would say he is a good coach not a great coach so far. Bo Peilini @ Nebraska was also winning 9 games per season and he was let go (which was a mistake obviously).

ND should keep kelly until someone better is willing to take the job.
 
Thanks, DIP. But no worries. I should have looked at Birks' posting history. Interesting that he only has 10 posts on this board, all of which were posted in the past hour. Also it's rather coincidental how similar his and Pazuzu's posts are, down to similar types of insults and maturity-level. As you know, it wouldn't be the first time someone on this board created another screen name just to have someone else agree with them. Lol.
I believe you were the one doing the insulting. Take the straw out of you own eye!!
 
Thanks, DIP. But no worries. I should have looked at Birks' posting history. Interesting that he only has 10 posts on this board, all of which were posted in the past hour. Also it's rather coincidental how similar his and Pazuzu's posts are, down to similar types of insults and maturity-level. As you know, it wouldn't be the first time someone on this board created another screen name just to have someone else agree with them. Lol.


No worries brother

I like banter as much as the next guy
 
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Why do I suspect that Birks is another one of your screen names? Put me in my place? Nah, it's obvious that he's lying.

Tell ya what, smart guy. What are you willing to bet? Contact the board ops and ask them to confirm or deny whether my first and last name are or are not on a South Quad building. You can use this post to prove you have my permission. You see, you are nothing but a bully trying to shout down dissenting opinions rather than formulating a convincing argument for your own.

You say I'm obviously a liar and a coward. I'm giving you a golden opportunity to prove it. So put up or shut up. Then if you want to actually discuss why Kelly is a mediocre coach (at best), stop at my tailgater and let me know.
 
Good coaches don't follow up a loss with a team loaded with talent by coming home and giving up esy touchdowns to Navy.....at home....after a loss. Kelly's teams are notoriously fragile. They start slow, make lots of unforced errors, panic quickly and get outcoached on a regular basis. If Kelly didn't have a marked advantage in athletes, he would be a below .500 coach at Notre Dame. He is a terrible play caller and he panics.
 
Good coaches find a way to run inside effectively when they need to. Good coaches don't depend on a finesse offense to beat inferior athletes like Navy. They control the line of scrimmage and beat them down early with a running game. Good coaches don't field defenses that can't wrap up on a tackle. They don't have safeties and middle linebackers who run themselves into traffic every play and end up on their butts while the runner gashes them up the middle for huge yards.

Face it, we are not a well coached team. We are fragile and soft. Our athletes deserve better coaching, better playcalling. Kelly has better talent than Virginia and Navy, yet we needed a hail Mary to beat Virginia and a 52 yard field goal just to take a three point lead to the locker room at home against Navy after a key loss. Face facts, we are underperforming given our our talent level.
 
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Yeah on a totally sandlot broken play by the QB. Kelly didn't win that game. His players did....in spite of him..

GTFO. They held them to 6 points or whatever it was. Let me guess, it was just the players and the coaches had nothing to do with it?
 
No worries brother

I like banter as much as the next guy

I like banter, too. And I'm all for agreeing to disagree. But when posters come on this board, start calling people "losers" right off the bat, tell others to "shut up," and lie by claiming to be 50 year old alums (when it's obvious they're not by the way they act), it's time for me to employ the ignore function. So nice not to have to be subjected to that nonsense.
 
Well in year 6 you would expect to beat navy. What are you expecting glowing reviews for beating navy? Even Bob Davie and Ty Willingham could beat navy. I was his big supporter when he was hired and still am to lesser degree but he certainly has performed below expectations so far.

He is averaging 9 wins a season which is an upgrade from what we had but still short of where we should be.

One 12-1 Season (Just 1 BCS type bowl) - got blown out by Bama
We had three 8-5 seasons
We had One 9-4 Season

He was 2-3 against really bad Michigan teams
2-3 against Stanford (average Stanford)
3-2 against average USC (not Pete Carroll Led USC) Both times we beat them they had backup QB playing.

So these numbers don't scream out that he has done great coaching job. But compare to previous two coaches he has done much better. I would say he is a good coach not a great coach so far. Bo Peilini @ Nebraska was also winning 9 games per season and he was let go (which was a mistake obviously).

ND should keep kelly until someone better is willing to take the job.

Valid points here. Also, don't forget when Nebraska canned Frank Solich who also was a successful coach there. They wound up hiring Bill Callaghan who was an utter disaster. Hindsight is twenty-twenty but I'd guess most Nebraska fans in retrospect would consider firing Solich a mistake.
 
I like banter, too. And I'm all for agreeing to disagree. But when posters come on this board, start calling people "losers" right off the bat, tell others to "shut up," and lie by claiming to be 50 year old alums (when it's obvious they're not by the way they act), it's time for me to employ the ignore function. So nice not to have to be subjected to that nonsense.

Classic,

Pazuzu is just here to stir things up. Pazuzu was the demon that possessed the girl in the Exorcist. Pazuzu was also the demon king of storms in ancient mythology, and when he first started posting someone compared Pazuzu to Hoosierstorm. I don't know if there's any actual correlation to Hoosierstorm, but I do believe this guy is just trying to screw with us. His "apology" not long ago was just a manipulative post which many bought hook line and sinker, and I think its probably because he's feeding into anti-Kelly sentiment.

I don't have a problem with people being critical of Kelly, but I'm sure this guy really is just stirring the pot.
 
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Classic,

Pazuzu is just here to stir things up. Pazuzu was the demon that possessed the girl in the Exorcist. Pazuzu was also the demon king of storms in ancient mythology, and when he first started posting someone compared Pazuzu to Hoosierstorm. I don't know if there's any actual correlation to Hoosierstorm, but I do believe this guy is just trying to screw with us. His "apology" not long ago was just a manipulative post which many bought hook line and sinker, and I think its probably because he's feeding into anti-Kelly sentiment.

I don't have a problem with people being critical of Kelly, but I'm sure this guy really is just stirring the pot.

Ah, good to know. The Exorcist---I knew that name sounded familiar. Yes, I've been critical of Kelly, too. And I never said that he was above reproach. I was at the Clemson game, for instance, and was not happy going for two so early. My point is that if someone is going to call for him to be fired, he's obliged, in my view, to provide the name of a realistic alternative. That's how reality works. As for Birks/Pazuzu: He's on ignore, so I won't have to read his inanity.
 
Ah, good to know. The Exorcist---I knew that name sounded familiar. Yes, I've been critical of Kelly, too. And I never said that he was above reproach. I was at the Clemson game, for instance, and was not happy going for two so early. My point is that if someone is going to call for him to be fired, he's obliged, in my view, to provide the name of a realistic alternative. That's how reality works. As for Birks/Pazuzu: He's on ignore, so I won't have to read his inanity.

I completely agree with the name a realistic replacement approach toward the discussion. Its a fair question.

And as far as going for two - After the Northwestern game last year I was ready to send Kelly a calculator. After the Clemson game, I'm thinking we need to send Kelly about a thousand of them. I just don't know how to organize that campaign.
 
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For those of you on this board that put BK down (ToM, Perse, etc.), I have one question: do you know why BK makes $3,000,000 a year?
Of course you do not know. Let me explain, he makes that kind of money because coaching football at this level is f#%@ing hard. Statues of great coaches adorn the gates of ND stadium - never will there be a statue erected for a critic such as yourself. Keep acting as if you are smarter/better/more wise than BK - you are nothing more than a farce whose ego has run amok.
 
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^ and that is a comment from one of the mindless! One likely to be a member of a family of posters who will not tolerate unbiased rational thought, especially from those who do not sit at the same table as them.
For football coaches Greatness is earned on the football field, it is not usurped on a message board.
 
^ and that is a comment from one of the mindless! One likely to be a member of a family of posters who will not tolerate unbiased rational thought, especially from those who do not sit at the same table as them.
For football coaches Greatness is earned on the football field, it is not usurped on a message board.

Oh the ironing........
 
And we got totally demolished
So fire the coach because ND lost to Alabama, in the GD championship game. This board is full of arm chair no-it-alls, who really don't know s**t. Kelly is an elite coach, and we are damn glad to have him. You think we lost the Natty because of coaching? you think we lost to Clemson because of coaching ... you are delusional. Better still, send your resume to Jack and apply for the job.
 
So fire the coach because ND lost to Alabama, in the GD championship game. This board is full of arm chair no-it-alls, who really don't know s**t. Kelly is an elite coach, and we are damn glad to have him. You think we lost the Natty because of coaching? you think we lost to Clemson because of coaching ... you are delusional. Better still, send your resume to Jack and apply for the job.

No fire the coach because He's lost to South Florida, Tulsa, Navy, Purdue, etc etc. etc, Fire the coach because he can't hold a lead. Fire the coach because he loses an average of 4 games per season and he hasn't shown any improvement except for Manti Teo's senior year when he had Nix and Tuitt on the DL. But mostly fire him because he was so arrogant after losing to Navy and so hell ent on proving it was the players and not the coaches that he insisted on holding practice OUTSIDE in a gale warning when he had a multi million dollar practice facility. Fire him because his ego, poor judgement and resulting little hard-guy routine cost two parents their son.
 
He's the best average coach out there. I applaud him for not going 6-6. I appreciate the consistent 8-4 every season.
Could this be more of an obvious troll? I'm not gonna lie I got a good laugh at the lack of facts that is presented here. Everyone just move along on this, nothing to see here.
 
So fire the coach because ND lost to Alabama, in the GD championship game. This board is full of arm chair no-it-alls, who really don't know s**t. Kelly is an elite coach, and we are damn glad to have him. You think we lost the Natty because of coaching? you think we lost to Clemson because of coaching ... you are delusional. Better still, send your resume to Jack and apply for the job.

And besides, what kind of fanboy wannabe actually uses the word "Natty". And we may have lost the "natty" that year no matter what, but if you'r boy hadn't spent his time interviewing with the Eagles, maybe he would have paid more attention to the job in front of him and we wouldn't have been EMBARASSED on "natty" Television, sporto.
 
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He's the best average coach out there. I applaud him for not going 6-6. I appreciate the consistent 8-4 every season.

This was the second week in a row the team was not prepared to play. Questionable play calling from the start during the first half and the defense schemes seemed out of sync. There is considerable talent on this team. Very impressive offensive players. Clemson has been the only quality team played so far - 8-4 always a possibility, but think unlikely. (Would enjoy watching what Holtz could have done with this offensive group) Think "average" pretty much describes the HC (didn't have my Kelly Kool-Aide today).
 
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