Brian Kelly is 100% right.
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Please answer the questions? What team do you coach and what is your record?
I'm not one to hit the panic button. I'm too old for that nonsense. The sun always seems to rise the next morning. Having said that, losing to a mediocre MI. St. team at home is bad. Losing to Duke anywhere is sad, just sad. There are no excuses, none that will suffice. I'm an IRISH fan. My hope, like many of you, is that the team can pull itself together and get better each week. Go Irish!
It's not too much to ask for a major bowl win in seven years that's something those other coaches achieved on the way to their seventh year
Troll. Many of us do have football coaching, and playing experience.
Would you need to be an ex-president to know our country is in trouble?
Would you have to be an ex-dentist to know someone had rotten teeth?
Apparently it is because the 3 previous coaches couldn't win one either? But hey let's keep firing Head Coaches. That seems to be working well.
Cool.. you admit Kelly sucks as bad as Weis, Ty and Davie
Good point! Except if you had rotten teeth you would want a trained dentist to fix your teeth right?
It is true a coaching carousel is not the good result but fo you continue with what you know that will not work (and seven years enough for a major Bowl win)
.That's not sestting the bar to high for expectations of its HC is it?
Actually i did not. I Iillustrated that changing coaches is not helping win Major Bowls. But you guys sure do love Tom Herman.now! That type of admiration is remarkable. You guys are fantastic!!!
Since Lou lost his last 2 Major Bowls including a world class whipping by Colorado in the 95 Fiesta. ND has now seen 5 coaches over 22 years incapable of winning a Major Bowl.
At what point do you stop firing coaches and look elsewhere for the problem?
Your argument to keep Kelly is that he didn't win a major bowl just like the last 3 coaches. Yep, you're a RKG.. play not to lose.
I don't understand what you get our of posting a long lecture to the board about how BK is the man and then when you get resistance instead of engaging in discussion defending the position you just go to condescending everyone immediately.
Also I am not sure how the fact that the last 5 coaches inability to win a major bowl somehow supports keeping BK. That position is essentially saying "welp it hasn't been better then this since Lou so we should just accept it and take what we got with BK"
Also I am not sure how the fact that the last 5 coaches inability to win a major bowl somehow supports keeping BK. That position is essentially saying "welp it hasn't been better then this since Lou so we should just accept it and take what we got with BK"
The original poster is clueless.
The team is an extension of the coach or coaches. Some coaches are more business like...some more rah rah.
Saban...Paterno...business like. They turn over every stone to make sure the players are as fundamentally sound as possible.
Carroll was more a rah rah fun guy...but it was a fun way that wasn't a negative.
Harbaugh is more rah rah...
Shaw very business like.
Meyer very business like and the master of exploiting the in game moments.
Sweeney is more rah rah...
Freeze is more like Kelly...getting some good material but no clue how to win and thus his team doesn't know.
I could go on....
But what does Kelly have in common with short list above...
NOTHING.
he acts like he's all business but his teams are always under prepared. Fundamentally unsound. Tackle like shit, have no idea what a good pursuit angle is etc.
He isn't rah rah...
He isn't that care free fun guy like Carroll..
None of the above. See he has no positive identity.
Only arrogance...and ignorance. Him thinking he knows everything when in fact he doesn't really know football 101
Makes him ignorantly arrogant.
That is Brian Kelly
Either Lou forgot how to coach his last 3 years and ND has hired 4 consecutive bad coaches.
If 5 coaches over 22 years have failed to hit a mark. (Win Major Bowl) And in virtually everyone of those games ND has been outclassed athletically. 94 Colorado 95 FSU 00 Oregon St, 05 Ohio St, 06 LSU, 12 Alabama and 15 Ohio State.
Maybe the mark is too high? ND in that 22 year period has run Power, Option, West Coast, Pro Style and Spread. The have run 3-4, 4-3 and Over Under Defenses.
Every coach that came to ND was highly regarded as either a HC or Coordinator. And they all stink? Then Meyer looked at the job and said no thank you.
You want the answer to the problem? Ask Urban Meyer.
So what do you propose? I don't think you are on board with lowering admissions standards. So basically you are saying a loss to Duke is acceptable because Kelly is the best coach we can get?
Of course I would want UM to coach ND but that is a pipe dream. I realize that the admission standards hurt recruiting. But that should not be a reason to accept a loss to Duke on our home field, even if the talent level has dropped off.
First, you pick out Lou's last 3 years but ignore his previous 8. Lous was not a failed coach.
Second, being a coordinator is entirely different than being a HC. The football world is littered with successful coordinators that are not good HC. That being said Kelly is the only coach hired since Lou that had a resume worthy of being hired. Davie had no HC experience which is a must to coach at ND. Ty was never a successful HC. He had 1 good season at Stanford and other than that was unimpressive. Weis had no HC experience and no college experience.
ND has failed miserably hiring coaches because, besides Kelly, they have failed to hire a coach with a record of success in college.
How is that at all responsive. So b/c ND historically in the last 2 decades hasn't done better then what they got now we should all just say "eh its whatever this is fine"?
You hit that out of the park.
Stanford Stanford, and Stanford.
I'm sick of the recruiting restrictions excuse. Stanford has no problem.
We just got our ass kicked by a similar school...one that basketball is of most importance.
But people want to make excuses of admissions...Wtfe.
That's also an insult to all the other schools in the country who do have standards and work with it.
Here we piss and moan about it.
Get a real ****ing coach ❕
If you don't know whether or not the coaches we hired in that span stunk, which ones went on to have success once they left ND? If ND is the problem surely at least 1 or more of those coaches went on to have success elsewhere, right? Enlighten us.
What does work with it mean? And what "schools" are you talking about?
Are FSU, OU, Miami, OSU, LSU,, USC, Texas, UF, LSU, UF, Bama, Bama, Auburn, Bama, Bama, FSU, OSU, Bama.
Because those are your last 18 Natonal Champs. No Stanford, No Navy and No Notre Dame. No kidding?
Are you curious because you think that one would of had to have coached at the college or NFL level to figure out that 99.9% of the posters on this site are totally clueless?
LMAO!!!!!! That kind of curiosity killed the cat. Thanks for the chuckles shabak.
Adios Amigos stay angry and clueless my friends!!!
No...he's curious because he, like everyone else, believe you are a LIAR.
B I N G O
As Bryan Driskell said - by year 7 this is entirely Kelly's team, Kelly recruits and Kelly's coaching staff - where's the accountability?
If it can be done at Stanford it can be done at Notre Dame
They understand our limitations and they recruit the young man that would fill those limitations at a competitive level.
I use Stanford FYI because they are equivalent to the limitations Notre Dame my face and I like your head coach a lot
You want to ask....OK. but then you'd rather answer after asking for me.
Or maybe assuming...you seem like that kind of guy.
I haven't said anything about it being all or nothing as you are implying.
Stanford is on a different level than our team...you make what you want of that but I'm not the one only measuring success by championships ..again as you assume and imply.
I played plenty of football and I don't need an education from you about it. Guys like u who coach jv high school FB think you have the market cornered on football IQ. Take a pill and pipe down. It's a simple game at its core. You make a fool of yourself. This team is BAD. They can't tackle for shit. You know balance up / wrap up and drive your legs thru the ball carrier . You've heard of that right...
He's just some dumb fat guy who hasn't seen his toes in over a decade who cleans the showers after practice.
He turned it down because he was looking for the easy Road plain and simple
