Just wondering if anyone else has noticed in all of Brian Kelly's post game interviews after a loss that he uses the phrase coaches need to coach better or we didn't coach it better. That little phrase tells me alot about the shortcomings of this staff. Until this year I really did think it was bad luck losing some of those games. Now I am fully certain that what plagues this team is a combination of shoddy coaching and coaching philosophy. Yes players can play poorly occassionally, but this team has taken on the identity of the head coach, which is lack of focus, stupid decisions, and no killer instinct.
Brian Kelly interview observation
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Stupid decision yesterday, VT's choice after the half, they take the ball, we should have taken the end zone that would have given us the wind at our backs in the fourth quarter. Pretty obvious and simple decision. We didn't do that... just another stupid decision
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It might also be a wall to protect his players. For example, MZ not knowing how much time was on the clock at the end. BK and staff took the hit for that. You don't think Harry isn't practicing jumping the counts every single practice? The OL probably doesn't do it in practice .CJ muffing the punt into the end zone. BK said that the punt returners have been instructed over and over to plant on the 7 and don't move backwards. Yet CJ does. Fink trying to field a punt yesterday in a terrible situation. Something is lost in translation from practice to game. Agreed that a DC and Special Teams coach is prized right about now. Probably some reinventing within BK himself.
One can argue good coach or bad coach successfully .
But it's time to go. Guy has just run his course here.
You can't change just for the sake of changing. Lot to consider. Money, recruiting, buy outs, finding the right candidate who totally understands ND. Willing to accept the conditions set forth by the administration. Successful proven career. No scandals. People person. Recruiter. Throwing out names without even knowing these guys is message board conversation and not based in reality.
Speak to university employees? Like who? The librarian? Custodian? Someone in admissions?Assistant Coaches? Muffett? The Fencing coach? Someone from Grounds? Is it a consensus or just a couple of university employees who have it bad for BK? Let's ask the recipients who have benefited from the "Kelly Cares Foundation" how they feel about BK. Let us take a poll and see if they feel BK is about himself.
Not since Lou Holtz has this program had a coach who understands ND football and it's culture .
I believe Bob Davie, TW, CW, and BK understood the culture at ND, they just weren't very successful as fans would have liked them to be. CW of all former coaches mentioned understood it better than anyone. Urban Meyer understood it and played ND against Fla to get whatever he was searching for. Not sure there is a blueprint to success. Lou was here at much different time. So was Ara. Stanford might be a close example of how to graduate and achieve. Maybe Northwestern to a lesser extent. The Cats are fairly successful for the recruits they bring in. As long as any of these candidates mentioned, or not mentioned yet, fully understand what they are getting into, then keep their name on file. As of now, ND has a HC.
It's been 20 years. That culture you speak about is dead as it relates to dominance on the football field. The players that will be recruited to rebuild that culture weren't alive when it was vibrant. ND, it's fans and administration need to stop looking to what worked in the past and understand that in 1988, Notre Dame recruited like Alabama is today... At every position. That'S not possible in an Era where the vast majority of the top kids care very little about Notre Dame's affiliation to the Church or the education they can get in South Bend... ND can be successful, but they have to build in the model of Stanford (because of academic restrictions) but with access to better talent.
ND needs an ass kicker, who will give this team an attitude adjustment. They need to strike a balance between granting kids an opportunity to participate in things outside of football, and not having their leading returning receiver (a senior) retire. They can't have their 3 year starting right guard (a senior) retire. They can't have their starting defensive tackle spending months away from the team each season travelling the world... Or fans just need to accept mediocrity.
While Alabama and Ohio State's kids are living and breathing football, with an eye to the NFL, Notre Dame'S kids are involved in a plethora of other things. They're mentally soft... I'm all for the options ND gives a young man outside of football, but the next coach needs to be a prick relative to what his kids can miss and what the expectations are of them when FOOTBALL is the reason they are going to save $300,000 on a world class degree.
At other schools football owns your ass. Saban demands immense amounts out his kids and he's a complete prick, who runs his program like a military colonel.
That's what Holtz understood. You have to be absurdly hard on your kids 90% of the time and turn them into mean kids. You have to instill hatred and swagger and toughness into them, by being harder on them then they could ever be on theirselves... If they have a sack, they'll man up and grow from it and understand how it makes themselves better. If they don't have a sack, they'll check out and you can process them out of the program because soft kids don't belong on a major college team. When the administration started interfering with how Holtz did things, his run was over. You can't have "suits" that know sweet nothing about the game of football, interfering and medling in the program.
People cry like little girls on this board about Brian Kelly yelling at kids... You know when Brian Kelly was at his best and when this team was growing and improving? When he was tearing a freshman TJ Jones a new asshole on the sideline for screwing up a route in this the redzone. That kid sacked up, worked hard, became tough as friggen nails and made himself into an NFL wide receiver. Had a great senior year playing through a shoulder in need of surgery. He took some nasty hits as a senior and hung on to the ball. Led by example. Fast forward 6 years and Torii Hunter is a friggen bandaid. Doesn't play through a damn thing as a senior Captain. Holtz would have buried him. 2010 Kelly would have buried him. 2016 Kelly baby's him and makes excuses for him.
The fans have gone soft. The head coach has gone soft. The administration has gone soft and the team has gone soft with them... That's how a talented team, with a quality head coach, loses so many damn close games and wilts under pressure. Kelly has lost his edge and so have his kids.
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IIO, I do not always agree w/ you, but spot on. ND has been soft for a lot years now. Fans included. Our players play w/ no edge to them. Too nice. Way too nice.
Starts w/ the head coach.
Stanford finds a way for their players to play w/ an edge. No reason why ND can't get a coach to instill that same attitude / mental toughness.
Totally agree with all this. My choice would be Schiano. ND will always suck until there is a focus and emphasis on defense and physical smash mouth offense and special teams. And that doesn't require a roster full of 5* players. Our talent is good enough, our heart, attitude, toughness, physicality is not
I agree about the fans. No life in the stands most games and the two softest guys in here, classic and 78, would continually say Kelly is the best man for the job. I still laugh at people like them for the crap they spew.
Agree 100 percent. So here is the scenerio. Get the type of coach needed to instill toughness, attitude and swagger. Just be up front with everyone and tell people if the football program is only a minor part of the university. If they do great we are happy. But it's only a game and getting an education at ND is the top priority.
If the administration tells the truth regarding football, then mist of us won't waste any more time watching a team try for an unatainable goal.
The problem with telling the truth about the program is that the university would lose money. You think NBC wants to shell out that kind of dough for a program that aspires to be Harvard or the University of Chicago? The fan base would decline as well. You said yourself most of us won't waste any more time watching a team try for an unattainable goal. ND will never admit what just about everyone knows. Winning football championships, or championships in other sports for that matter, are not a priority for Notre Dame.
if tearing them a new a$$hole was yielding the necessary results...then I would think that it is useful. But that is not the case. There needs to be more than tearing going on....coaching would be a good place to start.
One thing to add to your astute observations is that Kelly has no assistant coaches currently on the staff that other teams want desperately to hire as their head coach. I think Kelly has taken a step back in that regard. The program needs quality assistant coaches who are so good at what they do that ND is in danger of having them poached. That shows your kids are being coached up and that is one of the signs of a successful program IMHO.
Coaching is a major problem for this team. Seem to start off well, but can not make in game adjustments on offense or defense. Who is actually calling the Offensive plays... Is it BK, Sanford, or a ouija board? How many times can you run a read option... Unsuccessfully I might add, before you try something new.
I agree a lot with what you said and I wish Kelly would tear into players more fans get mad but football isn't for anyone. It's a tough sport. I don't think our kids our soft we just lack an identity right now. I don't think we are that far away from being good again. You're not in every game of the season as a bad team If this team shows up for USC game it will say a lot. No matter the losses this year this team has shown zero quit!
It was the media and some in this fan base who has made BK someone he is not. They want the Ws but they don't care to see what all goes into it.
So stick with the status quo?
It's hard to believe there is no plan B?
If that is the case they should be fired.
Big business moto ...
Hope for the best...plan for the worst.
One would be if the system isn't working change it, and coach Kelly refuses too
A great A.D. has a revolving list of potential Head Coaches he is cultivating / networking with constantly. He try's build friendships where and when he can w/ potential new head coaches. He has a back up plan for that day when he has to let his current head coach or that current head coach finds another job elsewhere.
Jack for as smart as is purportedly is - hopefully has a back up plan - if BK is fired or leaves on his own after this season.
I guess the difference is that the political lies NBC sells are provided relatively cheaply by the politician or party peddling the lie. In the case of Notre Dame, NBC is paying big money to peddle a lie. At some point, maybe in the foreseeable future, the cost of peddling that lie will outweigh the benefit of peddling that lie.
If Kelly is not fired after the last game hopefully many will stop watching and attending games. If TV ratings and attendance drops admin will get the message although too late.
