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Ara:
these are the rules that have always existed and Wax and posters have occaisionally posted excerpts;
they are only effective if in this order:

they are respected and observed by all
there are persons who are in position of being rule moderators
if rules are violated then the the violators are responsible for the violation and appropriate consequences are applied.

Wax did his very best to moderate within the board rules you have posted.

Since the shake up or reorg some the reality that there are no mods or at least no mods who act to enforce the rules= hence the rules are in a sense suspended and the only consequence is the consequence that has unfolded.

Clearly if Wax was still the Mod, along with Jack F; the board would have been "cleaned-up"; at the time just prior to the reorg steps were under consideration to do that.

But as you know, a reorg and pooof! We are where we are. As Sal labeled it, "The Wild Wild West" forum.
The law of the jungle is applicable.

The idea that posters will self govern and self regulate to respect the rules is far fetched.

And bluntly, the forum shananagins are traceable to the creation of multi ID's and the idea that personal attacks can censure opinion/discussion.

If there is a universal agreement to respect the rules- all the Rules - by ALL POSTERS - I AM IN.

But, I doubt some will sign on to that; for them the rules act against their agenda.
 
I have posted selected rules over the years with no results. Warnings don't work. Threats don't work. Zero tolerance and a quick hook is the only thing that will get the message across. Until then, responding over and over to inflammatory and insulting comments only fuels the fire. And let's be honest, some on this board, including regulars, go out of their way looking for problems and responding to problem posts. The regulars will keep negative insulting non contributing posts and threads alive with repeated "witty" responses. This board needs a mod with a spine willing to do the dirty work to clean this place up once and for all. It's obvious policing ourselves doesn't work because the police are just as bad as the problem posters.
 
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Ara --


In the rules it states that recruits read this forum

What do you think a recruit thinks when Purse23K calls Head Coach Brian Kelly despicable ?

or

Compares Brian Kelly to a failed football coach ( Charlie Weis) with the following statement

" The only differance between C Weis and B Kelly is 120 lbs "

What would a recruit think of that line

or

-- " If Kelly goes 8-5 he is a goner and if he goes 11-1 he will leave ND "--what would a recruit think of about that ?

or

ND assistants leave because they have no real shot at advancing as an asst under B Kelly and that the AD is now hiring the assistant coaches

Game on 23 K Game on !!!
 
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the staff is NOT protected or above critique; you posted that and THE MOD REBUKED YOU in reply!
It is a fair topic to discuss the failures are shortcomings of the staff, as matter of opinion. Even your Brian Kelly.
Nothing I posted was a violation of any rules.
No poster has a post where I made an unprovoked personal comment towards them.

I hope someday to have as many posts as you and yours have ID's!

Tell the board why you want this censurship - tell the board! I dare you(s).

Occam's razor
 
Nobody forces you to read and post here. If one is going to post idiotic stuff they will be called out for it. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.
 
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I might add that: "continually and company" and all your prior alias's going forward, if you make any personal attack I will address it with the Mods; according to the stated rules. I will for their benefit also include the exchanges (emails) to/from with the prior mods for a historical perspective.

All that you (and myself included ) is to respect the rules as disclosed in the OP. The ball is in your court!

However, bear in mind the criticism of staff performance is subject to discussion or critique. Neither you nor I have a right to create anylimitation upon others re that as a topic.


Now that there are a posted set of standards, as for me The Wild West approach ends and any issue or grievance will be sddressed with the Mods.




FYI: I will likely send off an Email to Lou S. with some background on the addressing board rules. I know Lou from TOS days and believe he can be a fair rules moderator.


This post was edited on 2/21 10:42 AM by perseverare
 
the future as a forum is dependent upon the adherence to applications of a set rules.

It will be interesting to see how Andrew and Lou handle things in the coming days.

You cannot have a forum for fan discussion where there is a set of subjective limitation set by a single or small set of posters.
That will kill the forum. In this case though that is the intent.
 
I don't want to pay a nickle.

I demand services.

Got it.
 
Originally posted by Ara64:
I believe in the rules of life so deeply that I've preached them for the past 43 years of my life.
What did you do for the first 40 years of your life, before you started preaching?
 
Originally posted by Pennick4:
Nobody forces you to read and post here. If one is going to post idiotic stuff they will be called out for it. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.
It is much deeper than that. Idiotic stuff, as you called it, clutters up the board. Many times, perfectly good threads are hijacked by idiotic stuff. Great points are completely lost by the fifty posts that follow trying to out insult and out wit the transgressors. Idiotic stuff keeps new contributors away. Idiotic stuff makes this board and Irish fans look bad....real bad. Idiotic stuff are comments from semi grown ups who bring middle school playground wit here, under anonymous aliases. I am confident that much of this, no, almost all of it, is well thought out in advance and hardly spontaneous. Idiotic stuff is called out as you say it and then normally sane mature Irish posters will engage for the next week. Is this really what our board is intended to be? An anonymous smack board? If this idiotic stuff keeps up you will find less and less of the smart contributors contributing and this little good old boys club will be duly broken up. A no nonsense mod would have this place cleaned up in 24 hours and that includes the dopes coming here from the premium side with zero to offer on anything ND related.
 
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Originally posted by irish jack:
Originally posted by Pennick4:
Nobody forces you to read and post here. If one is going to post idiotic stuff they will be called out for it. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.
It is much deeper than that. Idiotic stuff, as you called it, clutters up the board. Many times, perfectly good threads are hijacked by idiotic stuff. Great points are completely lost by the fifty posts that follow trying to out insult and out wit the transgressors. Idiotic stuff keeps new contributors away. Idiotic stuff makes this board and Irish fans look bad....real bad. Idiotic stuff are comments from semi grown ups who bring middle school playground wit here, under anonymous aliases. I am confident that much of this, no, almost all of it, is well thought out in advance and hardly spontaneous. Idiotic stuff is called out as you say it and then normally sane mature Irish posters will engage for the next week. Is this really what our board is intended to be? An anonymous smack board? If this idiotic stuff keeps up you will find less and less of the smart contributors contributing and this little good old boys club will be duly broken up. A no nonsense mod would have this place cleaned up in 24 hours and that includes the dopes coming here from the premium side with zero to offer on anything ND related.
Exactly. It's getting harder and harder to wade through the crap.
 
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Jack:
"no nonsense mods"; hmmm, and yet when I cited the violations to the mods that also was objected to. The personal stuff has no place here. Ironically there is more objection to standing up to such pisting than there is to objecting to the instigating.
If there was no 1st punch there would be no retaliation.

Wax did what he could. And when he felt it had to be more he went to Jack. But the reorg happened and we are where we are.

I posted a proposal that we, has a board, respect the board rules and as such fellow posters; let's see how that flies. As far as I am concerned the Rules represent an ally; not a threat; however they apply to each of the posters.

how did we get here? Occam's Razor.
 
Originally posted by perseverare:
and on a side note they disrespect the legacy of the late Ken Rockne
You obviously didn't know Kenny. No offense, as you've been cool with me, but Kenny would be egging everyone on from the sidelines. "Hey Mike, can I ask a question? Would you go and mess with the free board? I'm bored! Give em hell! Get the! Zzzzzzz"

This post was edited on 2/21 4:03 PM by coloradohusky
 
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Kenny was a great friend to many of us off the board. The Saturday afternoon conversations with him were precious. I only wish there had been more of them.

He would've been over here having Ara's ass right about now.

This post was edited on 2/21 3:40 PM by unclemikey
 
I'm sure he'd appreciate the monkey masturbating, the dogs humping, barfing, shooting diarrhea.

I know "kenny" would love those contributions to an ND football discussion board...

It's been great.
 
well;

both (Ara and Ken) have had forums named after them!

husky:
of coyrse I have been fine with you; there has been no reason not to be. That is the thing.
 
Originally posted by cgvr:
I'm sure he'd appreciate the monkey masturbating, the dogs humping, barfing, shooting diarrhea.

I know "kenny" would love those contributions to an ND football discussion board...

It's been great.
Actually, Kenny loved that kind of banal stuff. You really have no clue about him, do you?
 
The one thing I've gotten out of all of this is that I somehow missed the shooting diarrhea.
 
Originally posted by perseverare:
I might add that: "continually and company" and all your prior alias's going forward, if you make any personal attack I will address it with the Mods; according to the stated rules. I will for their benefit also include the exchanges (emails) to/from with the prior mods for a historical perspective.

All that you (and myself included ) is to respect the rules as disclosed in the OP. The ball is in your court!

However, bear in mind the criticism of staff performance is subject to discussion or critique. Neither you nor I have a right to create anylimitation upon others re that as a topic.
Now that there are a posted set of standards, as for me The Wild West approach ends and any issue or grievance will be sddressed with the Mods.

FYI: I will likely send off an Email to Lou S. with some background on the addressing board rules. I know Lou from TOS days and believe he can be a fair rules moderator.



This post was edited on 2/21 10:42 AM by perseverare
You really are a wet blanket.. cheer up champ. Nobody is putting rockets on the moon in here.
 
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"Please!
Please! This is supposed to be a
happy occasion! Let's not bicker and
argue about who killed who."
 
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coloradohusky

as to Ken

his time overlapping me on TOS site was short; what i know of him is more from the time he was ill and the reading of posters comments about him at that time. I figured from his photos posted that he was "no couch potato"!

heck he does have a forum named for him!
 
so in typed form that would be very different than done as sctual conversation; it came off as something akin to SNL!
 
What in thee **** is this all about?

Boy!
This post was edited on 2/21 7:58 PM by TElkins
 
Originally posted by cgvr:
"Please!
Please! This is supposed to be a
happy occasion! Let's not bicker and
argue about who killed who."
I can't figure you out. I think you're "CyberBipolar".

Half the time you're acting like Ara, and the other half of the time you come up with some cool, funny stuff.

That was a nice Python pull, Dude!
 
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I vote Ara for board moderator! I think he would be a great sheriff! We have lost a lot of good posters due to the incessant child like trolls. This used to be a pretty good board to come too.
 
Originally posted by perseverare:
and on a side note they disrespect the legacy of the late Ken Rockne
Lol.....Kenny would be hammering you along with us. Take that one back assmunch.

GO IRISH!!!
 
"He" was practiced at the art of deception..."

This board needs to be ruled as an anarcho-syndicalist commune.

"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony."

"You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!"

"I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!"
 
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