After the final 12/playoff seeding one thing is clear: Notre Dame should never schedule a tough opponent again
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Been saying this for years. Take the Ohio st and Michigan formula. Play 1-2 tough games a year ( in conference ) . End up with 10-11 wins get into the playoffs and go from there.
Allows you to get your starters out early in most games ( lowering injury risk ) and getting backups more game reps etc.
Now with Oregon and USC etc in the big 10 it’s going to be a little harder for them to schedule like they have been .
Not that I agree with how they been scheduling . You should be playing some really good outta conference games but the fact of the matter is the way the committee has ranking and seeding it seems these type of schedules are being rewarded not punished. Jmo.
Allows you to get your starters out early in most games ( lowering injury risk ) and getting backups more game reps etc.
Now with Oregon and USC etc in the big 10 it’s going to be a little harder for them to schedule like they have been .
Not that I agree with how they been scheduling . You should be playing some really good outta conference games but the fact of the matter is the way the committee has ranking and seeding it seems these type of schedules are being rewarded not punished. Jmo.
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I've got a better idea. How about if you never post here again?
Until there is imperical evidence that SOS is valued more than wins, then play a softer schedule, Also, there are far too many games, with a post season tournament of 12 team, 14 teams, Playing 12 regular season games and a Conference Championship game is too much, Go back to an 11 game regular season, end the Conf Championship games and start the playoffs, You have teams looking at playing 17 games? When ND won it's last National Championship they went 11-0 and won the Fiesta Bowl over WVU, to go 12-0.
Too obvious even for you. Especially now that you are abandoning your F+ narrative.
As you know, FSU was preseason top 10, USC preseason top 15. Then top 20 AM on the road, with top 35 teams Ville and GT.
Last note…Irish bludgeoned FSU way more than that tough SEC team from Florida did
There are in reality 5 factors in picking at large teams:
Win Loss
SOS
Margin/comfort of victory
Historical success of team and conference
Perceived talent--(recruiting plus getting of bus factor)
The "eye test" really is a euphemism for the last three. Most computers account only for the first three (but some include preseason baggage).
I can partially see Alabama's Complaint. I dismiss the relevance of the 4th factor but regarding the second and third factors, they did more than SMU--and SMU got in because the conference championships make money so the committee can't allow those data points to be seen to hurt teams.
If scheduling is not rewarded the game will suffer. That said the SEC's threat to take their ball and go home is petulant.
Win Loss
SOS
Margin/comfort of victory
Historical success of team and conference
Perceived talent--(recruiting plus getting of bus factor)
The "eye test" really is a euphemism for the last three. Most computers account only for the first three (but some include preseason baggage).
I can partially see Alabama's Complaint. I dismiss the relevance of the 4th factor but regarding the second and third factors, they did more than SMU--and SMU got in because the conference championships make money so the committee can't allow those data points to be seen to hurt teams.
If scheduling is not rewarded the game will suffer. That said the SEC's threat to take their ball and go home is petulant.
You’re a total moron
Scheduling is done years and years in advance, hence there’s no way to determine how good the team you’re scheduling will be when you actually play them
It also appears that SOS well down become more of a factor in determining rankings
Keep your day job
ND will obviously keep their rivals
USC
Navy
2025 is already set up
Miami
Arkansas
A&M
Boise St
SC
Navy
The weaker teams are
Purdue
BC
NC St
Cuse
Pitt
They only list 11
However, I get your logic
That's all we get out of it. Everybody else is going to start scheduling as many MAC teams as they can. But for us, they're kryptonite. We could schedule Army and Navy every year. That's a start...
I doubt ND gets into a playoff with 2 loses. Only conference teams have that luxury.
Alabama fans have cried enough on twitter that an ocean could form right in the state of Alabama. They didn't make it because of the loss to Oklahoma. That ultimately was their demise. Out of conference had nothing to do with it. Their "big" OOC game this year ended up being a terrible 5-7 Wisconsin team. Who also comes to Tuscaloosa next year. They were also in a dogfight with USF for a large portion of that game until they pulled away. Got Alabama fans talking about losses being forgiven, as if we haven't heard about NIU for three months now. Has to be the most entitled bunch of crybabies in sports.
Thats a tough schedule. Cuse not a weaker team especially if we have to go to the Carrier Dome or whatever they call it now. BC, Pitt are those natural lil bro rivals that can give you trouble in a trap game situation. NC State down this year but they've usually been ranked the past few years.
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Texas A&M
NC State
Navy
USC
Purdue
Syracuse
Boise State
Road Games:
Miami
Pittsburgh
Boston College
Arkansas
There's no 12th opponent yet, but Stanford only has 11 games for next year, so ending the season at Stanford would make sense.
Home games:
Texas A&M
NC State
Navy
USC
Purdue
Syracuse
Boise State
Road Games:
Miami
Pittsburgh
Boston College
Arkansas
There's no 12th opponent yet, but Stanford only has 11 games for next year, so ending the season at Stanford would make sense.
Cuse is a weaker team compared to the top 4. They will be an average team at best.
I would bump up Cuse. 9-3 this year with first year coach from GA/Kirby ties if I recall.
They can measure the strength of the record if they want to. There are stats that tell you how often a team could achieve that record..
In the case of Alabama it appears that nobody is asking how hard it is to go 9-3 against that schedule.
If our one loss was to the University of Illinois instead of Northern Illinois then we would not have been so disrespected in the news chatter. I don't know whether that changes our ranking, the PC appeared to marry themselves to that one comment about not punishing championship game losers.
LOL.. Pitt and BC and Syracuse will not be weak teams. Purdue verdict is out. Guy can coach. NCST can be really good or not. There is literally nobody on ND schedule that can't be a problem next year. The first 5 games will be as tough as anyone in the country plays.
I do not blame them.
IMO Indiana, Arizona St., Boise St., Clemson, and SMU do not make the CFB Playoff if they played in the SEC.
His day job is incessantly bashing Notre Dame. He's the worst poster on this forum.
Doesn't matter. Win the games on the schedule. All those teams won enough to get in, Alabama did not.
Army did just that. Went 11-1 and ranked.
Schedule disparity in CFB is real, and allows certain teams to prosper.
If ND were to schedule easy teams only, I'm concerned they'd be shell-shocked when they get into the playoffs. You want to see competitive games during the regular season, so you can better identify what your strengths and weaknesses are. Especially for the younger players, they need to know that they can go up against the best and win against them. Otherwise, strong possibility they go into playoffs nervous, as they've never played anyone that good or overconfident cause they beat up a bunch of weak to average opponents.
Besides, with schedules being made years in advance, it's impossible to know who will be good or weak. Unless of course you're scheduling FCS and G5 schools who haven't had a winning season in forever.
Looking at ND's schedule, A&M, FSU, Stanford, and SC could easily have been ranked in the top 10. And other programs could easily have been ranked as a top 25 team.
Besides, with schedules being made years in advance, it's impossible to know who will be good or weak. Unless of course you're scheduling FCS and G5 schools who haven't had a winning season in forever.
Looking at ND's schedule, A&M, FSU, Stanford, and SC could easily have been ranked in the top 10. And other programs could easily have been ranked as a top 25 team.
It literally doesn’t matter. The SEC is not the benchmark for who qualifies for the playoffs.
The conference has been over hyped collectively and top heavy for years. Alabama lost to to 7-5 Vandy and 6-6 Oklahoma and OU won two games in the SEC all year. That’s why they’re out.
Their flawed logic of changing their OOC scheduling habits is just sour grapes because their OOC schedule this year was not strong. But they do have strong OOC opponents (on paper) in the future that could help their schedule case should they win those games.
Looks like he is entering draft after bowl game. He confirmed he will play in bowl game.
Dumb. What coach doesn't want their team battle tested ? Teams need adversity to learn how to respond to it. There is no way in hell you ever played organized football. USC giving ND somewhat of a battle was much more beneficial than ND just boat racing them for 60 minutes.
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