1966 Ara beat #10 USC 51-0...BK needs to do the same Saturday

[IrishFforida]

The most dominant team in modern ND history was the 1966 team, which ironically is known more for a 10-10 tie with Sparty, than the fact the 1966 team ended up 9-0-1 and outscored their opponents 362-38. Since ND was not playing bowl games in 1966. Ara and Co. went out to California to end the season and beat USC 51-0, as a reminder to the pollsters, that ND was easily the best team in the nation,

With ND likely #6 in the CFP standings tonight, and with the OSU vs Michigan loser guaranteed to have 2 losses and drop. ND will likely be #5 heading into Conference Championship weekend.
The CFP will likely ride on Georgia beating Alabama. And ND trying to win a debate over 2 losses Alabama, and a 1 loss Big 12 champ (OK State or OU) *if there is one*

5 years ago on this board, you had Kelly Critics pumping sunshine up the rear ends of David Shaw and holding up his lead-footed, thick ankled, 1980's playbook running football teams, as the gold standard for how a major college football team with high academics should structure a team to win championships. The program of course has completely and predictably fallen apart.

So Brian Kelly needs to light up this scoreboard for 2 reasons

#1 To let ALL great HS Football players, who are also very concerned about academics, know, that ND is your ONLY OPTION! Show them, Stanford is a dead 3-9 program, which ND just humiliated on TV

#2 Let the CFP playoff committee know that ND is playing as good of football, as anyone in the nation. And leaving ND out of the playoffs would be criminal.

To quote coach Assistant Coach Bill Yoast from 1971 TC Williams HS Titans

"RUN IT UP HERMAN, LEAVE NO DOUBT!!!"

 

[twalsh]

The most dominant team in modern ND history was the 1966 team, which ironically is known more for a 10-10 tie with Sparty, than the fact the 1966 team ended up 9-0-1 and outscored their opponents 362-38. Since ND was not playing bowl games in 1966. Ara and Co. went out to California to end the season and beat USC 51-0, as a reminder to the pollsters, that ND was easily the best team in the nation,

With ND likely #6 in the CFP standings tonight, and with the OSU vs Michigan loser guaranteed to have 2 losses and drop. ND will likely be #5 heading into Conference Championship weekend.
The CFP will likely ride on Georgia beating Alabama. And ND trying to win a debate over 2 losses Alabama, and a 1 loss Big 12 champ (OK State or OU) *if there is one*

5 years ago on this board, you had Kelly Critics pumping sunshine up the rear ends of David Shaw and holding up his lead-footed, thick ankled, 1980's playbook running football teams, as the gold standard for how a major college football team with high academics should structure a team to win championships. The program of course has completely and predictably fallen apart.

So Brian Kelly needs to light up this scoreboard for 2 reasons

#1 To let ALL great HS Football players, who are also very concerned about academics, know, that ND is your ONLY OPTION! Show them, Stanford is a dead 3-9 program, which ND just humiliated on TV

#2 Let the CFP playoff committee know that ND is playing as good of football, as anyone in the nation. And leaving ND out of the playoffs would be criminal.

To quote coach Assistant Coach Bill Yoast from 1971 TC Williams HS Titans

"RUN IT UP HERMAN, LEAVE NO DOUBT!!!"

Well we just scored 55 points on Saturday, so he shouldn't have a problem scoring 51, if we could do that. My guess is Stanford is a bit better than Georgia Tech.

 

[HDK]

....that ND was easily the best team in the nation...

I think if everyone knew ND was easily the best team in the nation, it wouldn't have mattered if they rang USC's bell quite that soundly, but Michigan State was a damned good team, too.

 

[NDSMC78]

....that ND was easily the best team in the nation...

I think if everyone knew ND was easily the best team in the nation, it wouldn't have mattered if they rang USC's bell quite that soundly, but Michigan State was a damned good team, too.

If ND "was easily the best team in the nation," we would not have tied Michigan St. A lot of people think MSU was every bit as good as ND. Not to mention that Bama finished the 1966 regular season 10-0.

 

[twalsh]

Not to mention that Bama finished the 1966 regular season 10-0.

I think you will find that Bama, playing that screwy SEC 6 game conference schedule back then, managed to miss the best teams in the conference during that season. Our schedule was way tougher than theirs.

 

[savvyandsassier]

I didn't know that about the '66 team, I didn't know they were that dominant. Of course any ND fan worth his salts knows about the famous/infamous tie with Michigan St.

In any case, in this one instance, go ahead and run the score up as much as possible. It's a busted, corrupt playoff system we got, and in a better world no coach anywhere would concern himself with running up the score. That shit's for thugs. All you gotta do is win....

But its the world we currently live in, we're gonna beat Stanford either way, and I want into that playoff. So pretty please with sugar on top... Blow Stanford out of the water. Open the floodgates up on those bookworms....

 

[NDSMC78]

I think you will find that Bama, playing that screwy SEC 6 game conference schedule back then, managed to miss the best teams in the conference during that season. Our schedule was way tougher than theirs.

Understood. That is why Bama ended up ranked # 3. But they had a very good team that year, too.

 

[G_a_r_y]

The most dominant team in modern ND history was the 1966 team, which ironically is known more for a 10-10 tie with Sparty, than the fact the 1966 team ended up 9-0-1 and outscored their opponents 362-38. Since ND was not playing bowl games in 1966. Ara and Co. went out to California to end the season and beat USC 51-0, as a reminder to the pollsters, that ND was easily the best team in the nation,

With ND likely #6 in the CFP standings tonight, and with the OSU vs Michigan loser guaranteed to have 2 losses and drop. ND will likely be #5 heading into Conference Championship weekend.
The CFP will likely ride on Georgia beating Alabama. And ND trying to win a debate over 2 losses Alabama, and a 1 loss Big 12 champ (OK State or OU) *if there is one*

5 years ago on this board, you had Kelly Critics pumping sunshine up the rear ends of David Shaw and holding up his lead-footed, thick ankled, 1980's playbook running football teams, as the gold standard for how a major college football team with high academics should structure a team to win championships. The program of course has completely and predictably fallen apart.

So Brian Kelly needs to light up this scoreboard for 2 reasons

#1 To let ALL great HS Football players, who are also very concerned about academics, know, that ND is your ONLY OPTION! Show them, Stanford is a dead 3-9 program, which ND just humiliated on TV

#2 Let the CFP playoff committee know that ND is playing as good of football, as anyone in the nation. And leaving ND out of the playoffs would be criminal.

To quote coach Assistant Coach Bill Yoast from 1971 TC Williams HS Titans

"RUN IT UP HERMAN, LEAVE NO DOUBT!!!"

The 1966 ND USC game was not on TV. I had to go to Chicago and watch It on closed-circuit TV on a big screen. Black and white.

 

[twalsh]

Understood. That is why Bama ended up ranked # 3. But they had a very good team that year, too.

Living in the south, I have had many discussions over the years with Bama fans about 1966. You have to remember that the polls were different back then, they were much more opinion polls than de facto unofficial "standings" like they are today. So, if you have the opinion ND and MSU are the two best teams in the country, and they play a game and tie, why would that make you think they are not still the two best teams in the country?

If that happens today, Bama vaults over both of them to #1.

Bama fans will tell you that the pollsters didn't like them because the SEC was still segregated, i.e. all white, in 1966 and voters from the north and west coast held that against Bama. That may very well be true, I really have no idea. 1966 was right in the heat of the civil rights movement.

 

[burmafrd1943]

You look at Alabama's schedulein 1966 and you will see why they were an also ran in the polls. And to be very blunt very few pollsters cared about segregation, etc in 1966.

 

[NDSMC78]

Living in the south, I have had many discussions over the years with Bama fans about 1966. You have to remember that the polls were different back then, they were much more opinion polls than de facto unofficial "standings" like they are today. So, if you have the opinion ND and MSU are the two best teams in the country, and they play a game and tie, why would that make you think they are not still the two best teams in the country?

If that happens today, Bama vaults over both of them to #1.

Bama fans will tell you that the pollsters didn't like them because the SEC was still segregated, i.e. all white, in 1966 and voters from the north and west coast held that against Bama. That may very well be true, I really have no idea. 1966 was right in the heat of the civil rights movement.

I have zero sympathy for Alabama. They claim multiple tiles which they have no business claiming. The 1973 title is one example.

 

[HDK]

The 1966 ND USC game was not on TV. I had to go to Chicago and watch It on closed-circuit TV on a big screen. Black and white.

But ND got on TV twice that year, for the Purdue game and then the Michigan State game. I remember we watched the Michigan State game at some friends' house, and they had a color TV!

 

[mmboys07]

Living in the south, I have had many discussions over the years with Bama fans about 1966. You have to remember that the polls were different back then, they were much more opinion polls than de facto unofficial "standings" like they are today. So, if you have the opinion ND and MSU are the two best teams in the country, and they play a game and tie, why would that make you think they are not still the two best teams in the country?

If that happens today, Bama vaults over both of them to #1.

Bama fans will tell you that the pollsters didn't like them because the SEC was still segregated, i.e. all white, in 1966 and voters from the north and west coast held that against Bama. That may very well be true, I really have no idea. 1966 was right in the heat of the civil rights movement.

I don't respect Alabama (not that anyone cares) because they never schedule good teams outside the South, and actually play them outside the south. When is last time Alabama has played in cold/snowy or wet/ stormy conditions against a good opponent?

 

[NDSMC78]

I don't respect Alabama (not that anyone cares) because they never schedule good teams outside the South, and actually play them outside the south. When is last time Alabama has played in cold/snowy or wet/ stormy conditions against a good opponent?

Not sure why you believe that the quality of a team is dependent upon the weather conditions it plays in.

 

[twalsh]

I don't respect Alabama (not that anyone cares) because they never schedule good teams outside the South, and actually play them outside the south. When is last time Alabama has played in cold/snowy or wet/ stormy conditions against a good opponent?

If they play a big OOC opponent its almost always going to be early in the year, so cold weather isn't going to be a factor.

 

[NIN Irish]

The most dominant team in modern ND history was the 1966 team, which ironically is known more for a 10-10 tie with Sparty, than the fact the 1966 team ended up 9-0-1 and outscored their opponents 362-38. Since ND was not playing bowl games in 1966. Ara and Co. went out to California to end the season and beat USC 51-0, as a reminder to the pollsters, that ND was easily the best team in the nation,

With ND likely #6 in the CFP standings tonight, and with the OSU vs Michigan loser guaranteed to have 2 losses and drop. ND will likely be #5 heading into Conference Championship weekend.
The CFP will likely ride on Georgia beating Alabama. And ND trying to win a debate over 2 losses Alabama, and a 1 loss Big 12 champ (OK State or OU) *if there is one*

5 years ago on this board, you had Kelly Critics pumping sunshine up the rear ends of David Shaw and holding up his lead-footed, thick ankled, 1980's playbook running football teams, as the gold standard for how a major college football team with high academics should structure a team to win championships. The program of course has completely and predictably fallen apart.

So Brian Kelly needs to light up this scoreboard for 2 reasons

#1 To let ALL great HS Football players, who are also very concerned about academics, know, that ND is your ONLY OPTION! Show them, Stanford is a dead 3-9 program, which ND just humiliated on TV

#2 Let the CFP playoff committee know that ND is playing as good of football, as anyone in the nation. And leaving ND out of the playoffs would be criminal.

To quote coach Assistant Coach Bill Yoast from 1971 TC Williams HS Titans

"RUN IT UP HERMAN, LEAVE NO DOUBT!!!"

Unfortunately, the difference between Stanford 2021 and USC in 1966, is Stanford is 3-8, not #10 in the country.
A dominant win is expected against a 3-8 team, if you're competing for the playoffs.

 

[Ara64]

Unfortunately, the difference between Stanford 2021 and USC in 1966, is Stanford is 3-8, not #10 in the country.
A dominant win is expected against a 3-8 team, if you're competing for the playoffs.

That's why ND needs to win and win big since they are expected to win big. Also that 51-0 sparked USC for the next 20 years. USC proved to be a thorn in Ara's side for years. My hope is for ND to win the game without running up the score.

 

[BodiTheGreat]

That's why ND needs to win and win big since they are expected to win big. Also that 51-0 sparked USC for the next 20 years. USC proved to be a thorn in Ara's side for years. My hope is for ND to win the game without running up the score.

I hate Stanford and Smug David Shaw ! This is not croquet ! This is Football !!
I hope we score 70 on Stanford !

 

[Ara64]

I would settle with a nice 42-3 win with ND leaving three or four TD's on the field. Leave the field knowing ND owned them without humiliating them. It's just me. There isn't a coach I'd rather beat in College football.

 

[Irish '81]

Talking heads on ESPN & ESPN radio are lobbying all over the place to keep Notre Dame out. Taking up Alabama & Oklahoma State & even fricking Baylor. Kelly needs to destroy Stanford and give them the bird by getting in.

 

[Silent Banjo]

That 1966 undefeated untied Alabama team surrendered only 37 points during the season, and while bowl games weren't counted to award a title, Alabama slaughtered a highly ranked Nebraska team (ranked #6 in 1966) 34-7 in the Sugar Bowl. That thumping certainly attests to Alabama’s talent and that they would be a challenge for anyone that year.