Here's a transcript of our conversation with running backs coach Deland McCullough today. Questions may be paraphrased.
DELAND MCCULLOUGH
Jadarian Price was talking about the third-down certificate that’s your phrase. Can you tell us about that?
“I always mess with the guys throughout my career, but especially here. Just saying there’s two certificates, I tell the guys, two certifications, they got to have. One of them is to be a two-minute back, because of everything that goes along with that from the protections to deciphering, being a situational master of different things like that. Obviously, there’s protections involved with that, catching the ball. And then in third down. So, here it is, it’s third-and-8. You gotta be a guy who can quickly decipher what’s happening, understand body posture, understand linebacker levels, understand cap nickels and different things like that so that you’re good in protection. Not only being able to identify it, but then being able to defeat blitzers. It was good to see Jadarian today in tempo situations where we know the guys were coming, and he was able to quickly see those things and get over. I told him he’s getting close. I was joking with him. I said even Audric said when he gets his certificate, he wants to be the one to come back and hand it to him. Because we were working on that last year for a while. It’s continued to be so. He knows what he needs to do to work on that. Yeah, we kind of laugh about it, but he knows it’s serious too.”
Where do you see Jadarian Price now? Is he a lead back? Is he ready for that?
“Well, under me, what’s a lead back? What’s a lead back? All the guys continue to play. Far as I’m concerned, what we did with Jadarian last year was 100% on plan. It was we did not have to stress him. He was coming off an Achilles. There was no need in our room to say, ‘Look, we gotta load this guy up.” All I wanted him to do was bring him along the right way, put him in position to be successful for himself and for us to feel confident in his long-term development but then not overstressing his Achilles. We didn’t need to.”
You were conscious of that?
“100%.”
Was he having to be held back after heavy practices? Was he feeling the effects of that?
“Yes. Well, you’re mindful of that of anybody coming off of a major surgery anyway. From somebody who had three ACLs, I get coming off of surgeries and not being forced back into things and saying like, ‘I’m going to load you up.’ That was the beauty of having a dynamic room with a bunch of guys that you didn’t have to put too much stress on one guy whether it be Audric Estime or whether it be JD Price. To me, it all worked into the plan. This is what we were culminating for, coming into this year. OK, we’re putting him in his position.”
How did you evaluate Price’s Sun Bowl performance?
“He left some stuff out there. These guys, everything gets graded every day. Every single day, we get these guys and give them a grade on what happened that day. Every drill, everything we do. There’s continuous reminders of where they’re trying to get to. When the guys have a great day, I tell them, ‘You had a great day.’ He looked at that like any competitor should and said, ‘Man, there were some things I could have done a little bit different. I could have made this or made that happen.’ But at the end of the day, he had great ball security, he protected the quarterback and he made some plays with the ball in his hands.”
You’ve always wanted him to gain some more weight. Is Price where he needs to be there?
“You got to look at his body mass circumstance and say, ‘Well, what can he carry?’ I don’t want him 185. I know he can be that. But he doesn’t need to be 225 either. I’m comfortable with him in that 204-206 area. I’m really good with that for what he can do for his body, the way he runs and different things like that. I don’t want to overstress what his body can really handle or put him at a deficit situation for the way he needs to carry the ball at Notre Dame.”
Do you actually hand them certificates?
“It’s kind of just like an in theory type deal. I’ll say you’re certified now. I said, ‘Gi’Bran, you’re certified. The whole world knows you’re certified.’ But I’m thinking about doing it. Because even Audric said, ‘Hey, Coach D, when you do, I’m going to come back to give it to him.’ Because we’ve all been like, ‘Come on, JD. Come on. Come on.’ Put you in that position to come on. He’s that close.”
What are some of the things that you bring to grading players that aren’t standard necessarily?
“There’s nothing revolutionary about it. I’m grading their alignments, their footwork, all of the small details of what they do. The new guys are the ones whose heads are blown. They’re like, ‘Dang, Coach, really? Really? My foot was …’ Yes. Your foot was … ‘I’m like a half inch too far?’ Yeah, you’re a half inch too far over. On my control jab step, it needs to be slower so I can get in the hip of the puller and getting in phase with him. Well, in high school, I used to just jab and run. You don’t do that there. Then you show them the tape of here’s why you don’t. You were too fast. You hit the hole too quick. The timing is messed up. That’s a lost opportunity. So these guys understand it’s a big picture here. On this level you don’t have a lot of opportunities to make up for what happened three plays ago. You got to hit it when it’s there. Because that’s the type of environment we’re in and that’s the standard that we have for our running backs here.”
Do you have examples for a guy lined up a half inch and then it shows the difference between a three-yard and 12-yard gain?
“Yes. 100%. Two days ago we were watching tape of a guy who read it a certain way. It wasn’t an argument. He said, ‘Well, why did I do this that or do that?’ I said, ‘Just keep watching.’ Three plays later, he’s like ‘Oh, I get it now.’ Everything has rhyme or reason to it. It all comes together. The guys say, ‘I guess that’s why you are where you are.’ That’s why you chose to come here, because of that detail that’s going to take you to the next level. Audric talks about it with his preparation for the NFL. I was talking to him last week or two weeks ago, whatever it was. I said, ‘Audric, is there anything during your interviews that you weren’t ready for? Let me know so I can prepare the next guys.’ It ain’t like I haven’t been in the NFL. It ain’t like it was 20 years ago. He said, ‘Coach, I was overprepared. There wasn’t one thing that came up that I wasn’t prepared for. Actually, I was kind of overprepared. I had so many more bullets in the chamber as far as knowledge is concerned.’ I’m here to give them my best shot, and that’s what I’m going to give him.”
What makes Price and Love different?
“Jeremiyah is more like a perimeter receiver type guy. Jeremiyah could probably — I’m not going to say probably. He could play receiver on a supremely high level. JD, I won’t say he’s a more traditional back. He’s got more running back nuance to him. He is really good catching the ball. He can run routes. The big difference between them: Jeremiyah is really twitchy. Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah (twitchy sounds). That type right there. Although JD has that type of ability too. Jeremiyah might have a step on him as far as that’s concerned. More of the perimeter, in space, running routes is where Jeremiyah is really, really elite.”
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