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was anyone else a little disturbed by howard cross's remarks in the post game presser?

If that's what you took from it so be it. I just gave an opinion based on a lifetime of experience both as a player and coach.
I know, that's what you do every time. It's entirely possible, even likely that your assessment of what to make of HC3's personal reactions and answers in a press conference is completely wrong. And there is something to be gleaned from it. You'd have to have god-like omniscience to know what's in his brain, and other than that you have to guess what he might be thinking or where his head is at. Which I think is what the OP was wondering about. And according to you he's not thinking about anything, other than moving on to the next game on the schedule because that's what all athletes always do. Even though he may have been happier or acted different somehow if the result of the game had been different. And so it's not really true that there is nothing to see when it comes to a competitive athlete's post game demeanor.

Riley Leonard before Notre Dame...

Do we know for certain he can’t make the long throw? We all saw the INT against NIU, but do we know what precisely led to the ball being so under-thrown? Do we know for certain Angeli can make long throws? Even if Angeli can make long throws, he very well could have a bad ball himself. We have such a small sample size with Angeli.

I’m not ragging on Angeli as I like him. He had a nice game against Oregon State.

I’m not a fan of the TD/INT ratio. There is value in it for sure, but TD’s are often a function of the entire team, and more specifically, the entire offense. Obviously you see Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels most recent ratios and it’s pretty safe to assume they’re good QB’s.

However, Jayden Daniels had 17 TD’s to 2 INT’s as a true freshman. Then, as a junior, he had 10 TD’s and 10 INT’s. Did he get worse as passer two years later? Maybe he just had a few off days the way Leonard did against NIU? Maybe his team as a whole wasn’t as good and that’s why his ratio fell?
his career average per pass play of 7 yards is my stat, but then I follow it up with both scouting reports coming out of HS and most recently the pro scouting reports. The consensus is he doesn't have the arm strength and needs to improve on his velocity.
The fact is Angeli, Minchey and Carr all had better offers coming out of HS. Major programs offered these guys. Leonard ended up at Duke for a reason. So yea, I believe any one of the other 3 can, based on their recruiting reports.
I truly believe the coaching staff has a shiny object syndrome. Last year it was Hartman and this year it was Leonard. Instead of developing what you have.

Caleb Williams career TD's: 93 INT's 14 that's over 7:1
Jayden Daniels career TD's: 89 INT's 20 that's over 4:1.
Riley Leonard's career TD's: 24 INT's 12. 2:1

Riley Leonard before Notre Dame...

2 points

1. Riley Leonard can't make the long throw, allowing the defense to cheat up, containing Leonard's running.

2. TD to INT ratio. For every 2 TD's he throws 1 INT. That's terrible by any standard.
Do we know for certain he can’t make the long throw? We all saw the INT against NIU, but do we know what precisely led to the ball being so under-thrown? Do we know for certain Angeli can make long throws? Even if Angeli can make long throws, he very well could have a bad ball himself. We have such a small sample size with Angeli.

I’m not ragging on Angeli as I like him. He had a nice game against Oregon State.

I’m not a fan of the TD/INT ratio. There is value in it for sure, but TD’s are often a function of the entire team, and more specifically, the entire offense. Obviously you see Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels most recent ratios and it’s pretty safe to assume they’re good QB’s.

However, Jayden Daniels had 17 TD’s to 2 INT’s as a true freshman. Then, as a junior, he had 10 TD’s and 10 INT’s. Did he get worse as passer two years later? Maybe he just had a few off days the way Leonard did against NIU? Maybe his team as a whole wasn’t as good and that’s why his ratio fell?

was anyone else a little disturbed by howard cross's remarks in the post game presser?

Alright, cool. That doesn't really answer the question. And coming from you you're just trying to tell someone to shut up which is all you do with any of your lamely dismissive, condescending posts. And having said that, what to make of HC3's post game demeanor after this shitty loss, who can say, you'd have to use your own judgement.
If that's what you took from it so be it. I just gave an opinion based on a lifetime of experience both as a player and coach.
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was anyone else a little disturbed by howard cross's remarks in the post game presser?

Alright, cool. That doesn't really answer the question. And coming from you you're just trying to tell someone to shut up which is all you do with any of your lamely dismissive, condescending posts. And having said that, what to make of HC3's post game demeanor after this shitty loss, who can say, you'd have to use your own judgement.
You and Chase should get married

OT: Pac-12 expansion progress

Yahoo Sports' Ross Dellenger broke the news last night that the Pac-12 was set to add four schools to its conference as part of a rebuild plan for the conference that had been reduced to Oregon State and Washington State.

The Pac-12 made the announcement official this morning: Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State and San Diego State will join the conference on July 1, 2026.

According to Dellenger: "This is expected to be the first phase in a multi-phase expansion endeavor to reach, at the very least, eight schools — the NCAA’s minimum required to qualify as an FBS conference. If the aforementioned four join, the league needs two more to complete the process. It must reach the minimum by July of 2026, the end of the NCAA’s two-year grace period."

Riley Leonard before Notre Dame...

I see the issue we’re having between passing yards/total yards and see why you responded with the 2900 yards. I also didn’t quote your original post, and why should his rushing stats be disregarded anyway? If you’re making a decision on who to play, everything should be considered. It’s the sum of all parts. Who is the best person to give ND the best odds of winning. And it’s just odds. No one knows for sure how any one player will play in an upcoming game.

He runs “ok”? That’s absurd. He’s awesome as a runner. He won’t break one of 50? He has at least three runs over 50, and why use such an arbitrary number? Check his awesome TD run against Clemson last year. Does it not count because it was only 44 yards? I would never say something like “so and so is okay..I mean..he can’t break one over X yards”. Such an ignorant comment. A ballcarrier can have a great game rushing without a run over 10 yards.

Leonard’s completion percentage as a sophomore was better than any year Hartman had and now Hartman is in the NFL. Does that mean he is a better passer? No, it’s just circumstances. He also had two less INT’s than Hartman did as a sixth year with 91 more attempts. Again, does this mean Leonard is a better passer? No, it’s just circumstances. Stats are overrated.

It’s arrogant of you to assume that I’m an “apologist”. I don’t know Leonard so why would I care? I had a post on here saying that I didn’t think he was all that different from Hartman and Angeli before the season. I didn’t need to see him struggle against NIU and then spout off. Then I actually watched him and thought he was quite good. How much of Leonard have you watched?

“In case you didn't know all it takes is a coach loading the box daring us to beat them in the air and down the field.” Funny. This is part of why I think he’s so valuable.

No, the stats don’t speak for themselves. How much of Leonard did you watch of Leonard prior to this season?
2 points

1. Riley Leonard can't make the long throw, allowing the defense to cheat up, containing Leonard's running.

2. TD to INT ratio. For every 2 TD's he throws 1 INT. That's terrible by any standard.

was anyone else a little disturbed by howard cross's remarks in the post game presser?

I can tell you this for absolute certainly. Players and coaches don't have the luxury or time to dwell on the outcome of games good or bad. When I played the minute a game ended the focus shifted to the next game. It has to be that way unless it's the absolute last game of that season. There is little to no time for it.
Alright, cool. That doesn't really answer the question. And coming from you you're just trying to tell someone to shut up which is all you do with any of your lamely dismissive, condescending posts. And having said that, what to make of HC3's post game demeanor after this shitty loss, who can say, you'd have to use your own judgement.

Riley Leonard before Notre Dame...

Again you can't comprehend or just simply ignorantly in denial.
Perhaps an apologist for Riley as you might be paying his NIL.
The entire subject in all these posts are strictly about his passing.

Let me repeat just so you get it this time
These posts are about his passing ability or lack of if you will....

As I pointed out in other threads we aren't as good at running the ball like Nebraska of 94 and 95...

In other words we NEED to throw the ball for success. Imposing our will running the ball is great but we can't rely on that all the time.
There is another team over there and they're trying hard. They also have coaches and they're trying as well.
In case you didn't know all it takes is a coach loading the box daring us to beat them in the air and down the field.
We can't make them pay because our passing game is bad. Really bad!
Riley has already shown his ability and what he can do in the passing game He's a middle of the D1 type of QB.
He runs OK...won't break one 50 yards so he's not a game changer...
but his throwing is atrocious.
The stats speak for themselves. Weak inaccurate arm which is nothing new for a QB around these parts. Matter of fact you'd think we strive to play these types of players.
I see the issue we’re having between passing yards/total yards and see why you responded with the 2900 yards. I also didn’t quote your original post, and why should his rushing stats be disregarded anyway? If you’re making a decision on who to play, everything should be considered. It’s the sum of all parts. Who is the best person to give ND the best odds of winning. And it’s just odds. No one knows for sure how any one player will play in an upcoming game.

He runs “ok”? That’s absurd. He’s awesome as a runner. He won’t break one of 50? He has at least three runs over 50, and why use such an arbitrary number? Check his awesome TD run against Clemson last year. Does it not count because it was only 44 yards? I would never say something like “so and so is okay..I mean..he can’t break one over X yards”. Such an ignorant comment. A ballcarrier can have a great game rushing without a run over 10 yards.

Leonard’s completion percentage as a sophomore was better than any year Hartman had and now Hartman is in the NFL. Does that mean he is a better passer? No, it’s just circumstances. He also had two less INT’s than Hartman did as a sixth year with 91 more attempts. Again, does this mean Leonard is a better passer? No, it’s just circumstances. Stats are overrated.

It’s arrogant of you to assume that I’m an “apologist”. I don’t know Leonard so why would I care? I had a post on here saying that I didn’t think he was all that different from Hartman and Angeli before the season. I didn’t need to see him struggle against NIU and then spout off. Then I actually watched him and thought he was quite good. How much of Leonard have you watched?

“In case you didn't know all it takes is a coach loading the box daring us to beat them in the air and down the field.” Funny. This is part of why I think he’s so valuable.

No, the stats don’t speak for themselves. How much of Leonard did you watch prior to this season?

Football Under Armour's Notre Dame Coaches Collection has launched

Notre Dame fans have been clamoring to have access to some of the gear coach Marcus Freeman wears. But I'm not sure that launching the week after the loss to Northern Illinois is exactly the best timing on Under Armour's part.

Details:

Inspired by the sideline style of Head Coach, Marcus Freeman, this two-part collection consists of Irish Wear Green and the Shamrock Series, both now live on UA.com, The Notre Dame bookstore, and Notre Dame Fanshop.

Coaches will be sporting each series from the collection at two widely awaited games this season:
  • September 28 vs. Louisville: Irish Wear Green
  • November 23 vs. Army: Shamrock Series
This Coaches Collection comes off the heels of Under Armour’s partnership renewal with Notre Dame last year, as a reiteration of a shared commitment to authenticity, innovation and achievement.

https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/c/fan-gear/?prefn1=team&prefv1=University of Notre Dame

What does this quote say about ND QB play under Freeman?

"Just want to play within the offense. We don't need anything spectacular," Freeman said to NBC sideline reporter Zora Stephenson. "Do exactly what your coaches tell you to do, play within the game plan and the rest will take care of itself. If we start trying to make plays and throw the ball down the field, then all of a sudden we're playing out of character. Just do exactly what we want you to do and the rest will take care of itself."
The reality is there is nothing wrong with what Freeman said. They are playing NIU. Fact is ND is a far more talented team than NIU. ND should not have to do anything spectacular to beat NIU.

was anyone else a little disturbed by howard cross's remarks in the post game presser?

Agree with this, but also, howard is in a unique situation where he's not capable of having his normal impact and he's not playing much.

At least for me, maybe this was bad I don't know, but the feeling of a loss was different when you were a big part of the game plan, vs a little part, vs none at all. You never wanted to lose, but when you weren't involved, it didn't hurt as bad vs when you were playing the entire game and playing a big part of the outcome, losses really hurt.

But as you said, i moved on to improving the second the game was over after a loss. After a win, I enjoyed it for the rest of the day unless I played like crap.

I think howard is in a position he's more ticked off he's not healthy and can't go out and dominate the line like he can and have a huge impact on the game.
Well said.

What does this quote say about ND QB play under Freeman?

"Just want to play within the offense. We don't need anything spectacular," Freeman said to NBC sideline reporter Zora Stephenson. "Do exactly what your coaches tell you to do, play within the game plan and the rest will take care of itself. If we start trying to make plays and throw the ball down the field, then all of a sudden we're playing out of character. Just do exactly what we want you to do and the rest will take care of itself."
It's a quote, whatever. This does look like a jim tressel quote/approach.

I'm less concerned about a quote, and more concerned about a coach that has had 3 different OCs, 4 different QBs, and the offenses are very very similar. We aren't focused on recruiting the skilled positions like we were.

RB and WR recruiting this cycle are atrocious.

was anyone else a little disturbed by howard cross's remarks in the post game presser?

I can tell you this for absolute certainly. Players and coaches don't have the luxury or time to dwell on the outcome of games good or bad. When I played the minute a game ended the focus shifted to the next game. It has to be that way unless it's the absolute last game of that season. There is little to no time for it.
Agree with this, but also, howard is in a unique situation where he's not capable of having his normal impact and he's not playing much.

At least for me, maybe this was bad I don't know, but the feeling of a loss was different when you were a big part of the game plan, vs a little part, vs none at all. You never wanted to lose, but when you weren't involved, it didn't hurt as bad vs when you were playing the entire game and playing a big part of the outcome, losses really hurt.

But as you said, i moved on to improving the second the game was over after a loss. After a win, I enjoyed it for the rest of the day unless I played like crap.

I think howard is in a position he's more ticked off he's not healthy and can't go out and dominate the line like he can and have a huge impact on the game.
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Michigan vs Texas

Michigan has a few good seasons and then they disappear. They won the NC in 1997 and then disappeared for a couple of decades. They'll be back when they find another excellent cheater
Your last champion was 1988. Ten years before ours. Only 6 teams have one and unfortunately it will never be ND. Ww won tge last 4 team playoff championship and sent Seban to the nursing home.😂🤣😂🤣
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Michigan vs Texas

Michigans run is over, there’re going to be back to a 9 win team. The talent differential is huge. Was a short run but good for them for getting an NC out of it, more than many can say.
Michigan has a few good seasons and then they disappear. They won the NC in 1997 and then disappeared for a couple of decades. They'll be back when they find another excellent cheater
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