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It's crazy to think not all credits transferred in from Duke

Duke is an academically respected school, just odd. Wonder what classes Leonard was taking that couldn't be transferred.

My guess is there might be some classes specifically unique to Notre Dame's teachings that can't be taught anywhere else nor accepted by ND if learned at another school?

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How come you guys don't bash him to no end? They did fire him after three years and he got the hook pretty quick, purportedly because he was such an indifferent recruiter, that he represented some sort of existential threat and so he didn't get the usual five years ND prides itself on. Even though Weis came onto the scene and took those same players and went to back to back BCS bowls. But, before Weis himself fell out of favor, those same shitty recruiting classes could be leveraged to get Weis off the hook for his shocking 3-9 season, because we had to start like, Paul Duncan or something on the OL. And Weis in spite of his Super Bowl rings and ND-grad status, and his schematic advantage of course, ended up doing almost more damage than TW himself.

Anyway, TW didn't do to badly at Stanford. I guess that's why he got the ND job in the first place. And he got two jobs, from two different desperate programs, on the strength of his 'molder of men' reputation.
We are bashing him now, because he is opening his mouth now. Just like Kelly

Try to keep up

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He was fired because he participated in a March Madness betting pool and then apparently lied to the school about it. Probably half the guys in the country have participated in a March Madness office pool, so it seemed pretty silly to me, but I guess you don't want your head football coach bringing "scandal" to the school. He has done alright for himself as a talking head on sports shows since then.
That's right. I was thinking it was the Super Bowl. But it was the men's BB tournament! That's how you know the NCAA is a serious institution, interested in the steady application of truth and justice. Destroy a coach's career, not just a player this time, for an effin' march madness betting pool. I remember I did those in like 7th grade, I picked for my mom, in her office pool. I didn't know I could get her fired for that.

Does This Short Week Hurt the Irish?

Midnight in London England? The game started at 4:00 PM Eastern....3:00 PM New Orleans....game was done 8 PM and I am sure the team was home in South Bend by Midnight..,,which is earlier than most of their road games this year. The team assuming still in SB has slept 5 nights in their own beds....(or wherever they have put them up) and the travel is all within time zone / 1 hour max as well as flights all less than 3 hours.
What time do you think they arrived back at South Bend …… midnight or later
What time do you think they got to bed that night? 2:00am or later ?

They arrived in Miami today, so how much work do you think they got in today

They have tomorrow and then the game is the next day

That’s not a lot of time to prepare to play against one of the best teams in the country

So the answer to the question is that the short week hurts them?

Freeman shatters BK glass ceiling

And the only reason things like this even exist is because of toxic BK-hating ND fans. Otherwise it wouldn't be a talking point. ND's totally pathological, deeply toxic, deeply disturbing, almost institutional antipathy, and fear and loathing for the all-time winning coach in ND history, is the only reason anybody would ever make such a comment. Otherwise it wouldn't come up. Obviously MF is going to be more of a player's coach than MF, and that BK was more of the detached CEO coach. What's the big story here? And it's hard to think of a young coach walking into a more auspicious situation let's say, than MF and what BK left for him, and what BK had built. And unless there's something deeply wrong with you, there'd be no impulse to try and somehow steal the credit away from BK, without whom NONE OF THIS WOULD BE HAPPENING, in every possible respect. And very openly, very shamelessly, at this point with almost childlike ingenuousness do what you can to tear his legacy apart, and now you even got ex-BK players getting in on the act.

But that's what fans like you have wrought, and fostered in the greater ND Nation. It truly is a sickness, and it's not going anywhere. It has become institutionalized, quite literally, in the ND football and cultural universe. At this point it's become endemic.
You were forgetting a very important point, in fact, a critical point

And that is the way Kelly committed to Notre Dame and then did a 180 and left Notre Dame, leaving Notre Dame in a very bad position

You can’t ignore how Kelly conducted himself

If a guy was a good husband for 12 years and then he cheated on his wife and ran off with another woman would you still be singing his praises?

Kelly deserves the criticism that’s been directed at him for the way he left and why he left, in spite of the positive influence he had on Notre Dame‘s football program

Willingham

Rick was fired but I cannot remember why, He got caught lying about something. Sark did okay and then jumped ship to USC first chance he got.
Neuheisel violated NCAA rules by visiting high school players before the approved date. Then he brought more sanctions from gambling, which really was just playing in a March Madness neighborhood pool. I'm guessing his neighborhood was pretty nice and the pool money was large enough to cause NCAA problems. IIRC, he also lied to investigators about it. His program was also married by several player crimes. In 2003, Neuheisel interviews for the 49ers job, but lied about doing so. After the Seattle paper reported it, the AD to him that she would not allow for anymore lies. Once she found out that the NCAA was going to sanction him with a "show-clause", the AD fired him.

BTW, Neuheisel won a 4.5M lawsuit against the NCAA and UW for wrongful termination. I guess the NCAA failed to turn over what was deemed as crucial information.
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How much money did ND save extending MF before he beat Georgia and made it to the final 4 ?

You aren't understanding some of the points im making but trying to counter the points anyway and its not working.

I'll just say this: when i refer to "skill" im referring to the opposite of luck im not referring to recruiting rankings specifically.

"skill" is what a team can effect/impact
"luck" is external events (events out of a team's control) that impact/effect the outcome of the game

"skill" is an all encompassing term in this case used to describe a programs production and talent.

The more quarters two teams play against each other, the larger the sample size grows and better the opportunity gets for the more skilled of the two teams (the more talented and more productive of the two teams) to rise to the top of the scoreboard and win.

In many college football games 4 quarters is enough to get *some idea* of who the better team is, but if you turned a football game into a best of 7 series (where potentially 28 quarters were involved instead of just 4 quarters), we'd DEFINITELY know by the end of the series who was the better of the two teams (and luck would play way less of a factor in determining the winner)

TLDR: In college football, because the sample size is so small (just 4 quarters), even teams in the FCS or G5 FBS can sometimes steal wins over much more skilled P4 teams by mere luck (the NIU vs ND game being a perfect example)
Again, this is where you look like a fool or you're just too dumb to understand.

High School skilled athletes still need to be developed. It's a very big step to go from HS football to college football.

These 17-18 year olds are still developing those skills. In fact they are developing those skills through college and even into the pro's for those that get there.

A 4 star athlete can easily surpass a 5 star athletes skill level over a 3-4 year period, and it happens more often than not. It depends on the work ethic and desire to get better and improve.

Coaching has a lot to do with this as well. Coaches that know how to develop talent and skill.

All of these factor into how well a team is going to perform. Take Alabama for example, they lost 4 games to far less skilled teams, why? what changed? Saban, who was a great developer of talent retired, and his successor can't develop as well as Saban.

you talk about Georgia having so much more talent and skill than ND, yet ND did a great job developing those 4 star athletes out of high school into 5 star athletes. Georgia on the other hand has far more 5 star athletes out of HS, yet they played like 4 star athletes this season.

Coaching and development are for more important than what star rating a 17 year old kid is coming out of HS.

Again until you understand this concept you'll forever be someone that doesn't have a clue.

Football Transcript: Notre Dame OC Mike Denbrock ahead of Orange Bowl vs. Penn State

Notre Dame offensive coordinator Mike Denbrock spoke to reporters Tuesday afternoon in Dania Beach, Fla., ahead of Thursday night's College Football Playoff semifinal hosted by the Orange Bowl.

Here's everything Denbrock said while I was in the scrum around him. Answers are largely verbatim. Questions may have been edited for brevity and clarity.

MIKE DENBROCK

You should see the crowd over there around Al Golden. You must be doing a pretty good job. Did you not go to Penn State?

“That would be the person I'd want to talk too. Hey, Coach Denbrock, let's talk about your 90 yards passing. That'd be awesome.”

What does Pat Coogan mean to the room on offense? Notre Dame always has guys like that, but I imagine you don't take for granted when you do.

“No, 100% right. From Mike McGlinchey to Quenton Nelson to Jeff Faine, all of which have been around one time or another when I've been here — the leadership and the importance of it in that room. It's important in every room, but you talk about how close that unit is and how vital and important they are to everything that we do. To have a guy like Pat now kind of at the forefront of that room. The great thing about Pat, too, is that even when he was not being asked to be in a prominent role, he was a prominent leader. That just speaks a lot to the culture of that room and his character, in particular.

Before the year you talked about how you wanted this group to have confidence that it can make big plays and stretch the field. Where do you feel that's at right now? How important could that be in a game like this?

“I think it'll be a huge piece of the game. I think we're very confident with what we can do offensively. It doesn't always appear as a well-oiled machine, but I think the players have a lot of confidence in each other. They have a lot of confidence in what we do. We gotta quit shooting ourselves in the foot and execute a little bit better. But we're fully capable of doing that. And then some of it's on me. I gotta cut loose and let these guys play football a little bit too.

Where have you guys grown the most in that area to be able to do that in a game?

“We are a true balanced offensive unit. I know there's a lot of talk, and obviously, our run game’s been kind of what leads us and should be. But the improvement that we've made throughout the year in the passing game, and our ability to do that when we've needed to is what has really kind of helped us become more consistent overall offensively. There's a lot more there in the tank that hopefully we can tap into here down the stretch.

How's Jeremiyah Love doing?

“Very well. He practiced the last couple days. Obviously, we want to get him to the game, so we weren't running his wheels off the last couple days. Every day he gets a little bit better, moves a little bit better. I know he feels like he's gonna be ready to go and ready to get after it.”

If you have to go with Jadarian Price as the guy, what changes, if anything? How has he improved throughout the course of the season that you feel good about it if you have to do that?

“I look at JD as really like a close 1B as good as Jeremiyah is. The things that Jadarian has done offensively for us overall as a unit, making explosive plays when he got opportunities, and picking up the team at times. I think of Texas A&M pops in my brain. And there's a bunch of other ones too, where we were a little bit bogged down, he gave us a spark. I know he's anxious to prove that he's that type of guy that can be that consistent on every snap. He has that ability. I don't know that it would change us offensively all that much. Obviously, you don't want to not have Jeremiyah love, if at all possible, but we feel confident with whoever we put in there.

How much is it a luxury that Aneyas Williams has had small roles already and can step in wherever needed?

“The experience he's gained through the little bits that he's had, and everybody always wants more, but he's done such an exceptional job with what we've asked him to do. His role has kind of continued to expand a little bit, and if called upon, I'm sure he'll be ready to get after it?

What makes Penn State so good at stopping the run?

“Their front is really, really good. They're very technically sound. They don't stay blocked. They move around a lot, which confuses blocking schemes at times. They just are really good at getting on the edge of blockers, not staying blocked in and creating negative plays.

How are they in open-field tackling?

“I think their secondary comes downhill, does a really nice job of getting people on the ground. I know every defensive coach in the world would like to say, ‘Hey, man, we’re 100% in the open field as far as tackling,’ but they're way above the fray, as far as I'm concerned, where that happens.”

What stands out about Jordan Faison with the commitment he has to both sports and the way he’s able to balance everything?

“That he's a true competitor. It doesn't matter whether it's winning a national championship with our lacrosse team or helping us try to get in position to do the same with our football program. He likes to put his toe on the line and compete against anybody he can and in any sport that he can and does a great job of doing it.

What kind of loss is Cooper Flanagan?

“Coop’s kind of my hammer. He's been kind of the backbone to bringing a lot of physicality to what we did in the running game. That can't drop off just because Coop’s not here. But it's a blow to the tight end room, for sure, just because of the great things that he's done for us as far as helping us move the chains in the run game.

You guys hit a lot of long runs, 60,70, even a 98-yard run. What's been the key to doing that?

“Very, very talented running backs is the first key — and fast. And then we've done a good job growing to the point with our offensive line over the course of the year where we've given those guys those opportunities as well. When it's been there, we seem to block it the right way, they seem to hit the hole where they're supposed to and it's just one of those things that has kind of really come together for us and added an element to us helping us be a little bit more explosive offensively, obviously.

When was the last time Notre Dame was this fast in the backfield?

“Probably the last time they were talked about in the way that this team is being talked about. We’ve had some really talented running backs over the years, some from this part of the world, actually. But this group in particular, really at any level, whether it's SEC or ACC or Big 12 or whatever, these guys could be on anybody's football team and be running back one.

People have waited a long time to Notre Dame to win a national championship. What is it about this team that, in your mind, has allowed you guys to at least get to this point and possibly can finish this run?

“I think that they just concentrate and are focused on what's right in front of their face. We haven't really worried or even brought up or talked about any big picture things to these guys, and they really don't live their life that way day to day. Being a Notre Dame student, let alone a Notre Dame football player and a student, is a grind. And you better live your life six inches in front of your face. They've done that on the football field just like they do in the other parts of their life. It's helped them to stay focused and kind of just streamlined in the way that their thought process has gone and just zero in.

“We talk to them a lot, Coach Freeman brings it up a lot, you guys have heard him say it: win the interval. Just win this interval, this right here. Just do this. We've been able to kind of maintain that mentality, regardless of the amount of chaos that's kind of going around.”

What did you think of how your offensive line handled the pass rush from Georgia?

“There were spots, obviously, where I thought we could have done a little bit better job, but I thought overall we were really solid. As many games and different things that they do to try to pick people off and create kind of free rushers and things like that, I felt we passed off a lot of that stuff really well. It's something that we've done a good job of throughout the season of being able to really protect Riley. Riley's done a nice job of understanding when it's time to get the ball out of his hand as well.

How good Riley Leonard’s his decision making on when to run, when to throw it away, when to hang in a little bit?

“He's got a really good feel for that. That's one of the strengths of his game is to understand … as the season’s gone along, I think he's gotten better and better and better at, hey, this pass play that Denbrock called is a disaster, let me just ditch it. We'll live to fight another down instead of … you know what I mean? And then when there's opportunities for him to use his legs, he's done that really well and extended drives and helped us make explosive plays as well. I love where he's at mentally and with his decision-making right now where that's concerned.

You faced some really good defenses this year. The challenge with Penn State, especially with their guys who can get after the passer. Do they try to rush the passer in a similar way to Georgia? Is a different approach?

“There's some similarities there. I just think they're built with their two edge guys in particular — well, I could put probably three or four edge guys in there, because even the guys that they rotate in are pretty dynamic on the edge of their defense. They get after you, and they force you … they do things up front with what they do scheme wise to try to isolate those guys in pass-rush situations. Those guys have done a nice job of taking advantage of that.”

Basketball WBB: Notre Dame's Hannah Hidalgo, Olivia Miles named to Wooden Award midseason top 25

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The complete Wooden Award midseason top 25:

Georgia Amoore, Kentucky

Aziaha James, NC State

Flau'Jae Johnson, LSU

Cotie McMahon, Ohio State

Raegan Beers, Oklahoma

Lauren Betts, UCLA

Madison Booker, Texas

Paige Bueckers, UConn

Audi Crooks, Iowa State

Yvonne Ejim, Gonzaga

Hannah Hidalgo, Notre Dame

Kiki Iriafen, USC

Ta'Niya Latson, Florida State

Ayoka Lee, Kansas State

Olivia Miles, Notre Dame

Aneesah Morrow, LSU

Lucy Olsen, Iowa

Te-Hina Paopao, South Carolina

Khamil Pierre, Vanderbilt

Sedona Prince, TCU

JJ Quinerly, West Virginia

Sarah Strong, UConn

Harmoni Turner, Harvard

Hailey Van Lith, TCU

JuJu Watkins, USC
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Willingham

Rick was fired but I cannot remember why, He got caught lying about something. Sark did okay and then jumped ship to USC first chance he got.
He was fired because he participated in a March Madness betting pool and then apparently lied to the school about it. Probably half the guys in the country have participated in a March Madness office pool, so it seemed pretty silly to me, but I guess you don't want your head football coach bringing "scandal" to the school. He has done alright for himself as a talking head on sports shows since then.

Football Notre Dame defensive coordinator Al Golden's Orange Bowl transcript

Notre Dame defensive coordinator Al Golden attended two separate media sessions Tuesday afternoon in Dania Beach. Fla., one with electronic media and one with print/web. Here's everything Golden had to say in previewing Thursday night's CFP Playoff semifinal/Orange Bowl at Miami Gardens, Fla.

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