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Leonard or Buchner?

Serious question. When looking at their stats, Buchner is actually the better QB on paper. They both have similar strengths and weaknesses, so interesting to see what people think. Personally, I think it’s time to move on from Leonard. Seems like a good kid (as did Buchner), but he isn’t going to put this team over the top.
THEY BOTH SUCK AND GOLSON TOLD US THEY WERE BOTH ELITE! if you believed him your a sheep! Watch your own tape from now on. Neither of them we're ever good at passing! EVER!
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Post game presser.

There has never been an IOTA OF DOUBT in my mind that MF was a downgrade -- PURELY COACHING WISE -- from BK. In fact, I can't see how a sane person could argue OTHERWISE.

The problem I see at ND, besides that of not being able to attract the very best coach, is the lack of MARQUEE GAMECHANGERS AT THE SKILL POSITIONS ON OFFENSE. No stat leaders, no Hesiman candidates.

You need players of that ilk AT THOSE POSITIONS to win an NC.
Jeremiah Love's very talented. We didn't use him enough today. 11 carries for 79 yds and a highlight reel touchdown. Price had only 4 carries for 24 yards. Between them they had 15 carries for 103 yds - almost 7 ypc.

Why didn't we run the RBs more? I hope some reporter asks Freeman and Denbrock that question.

ND vs Nothern Illinois game thread

It’s tough to have a narrative stuffed down your pie hole!
Then he should STFU and stop acting like he's Andy Reid! He thought Buchner and now Leonard were the next coming, not only was he wrong he was epically wrong! I have never seen one tape on either of those 2 stiffs that ever said NC' QB w/ above average passing skills? It was never there, they were personal favorites he tried to shove down anyone's throat that would listen! If I didn't know better he's the dude from years ago that also thought he knew specifically everything about breaking down tape. Can't remember his name?

The sample size is big enough on Freeman

Three seasons, three bad loses (two MAC schools and a bad Stanford team) it’s not a fluke or one off, he’s not the guy.

Leonard looks like a complete bust, let’s be real players are bought and ND got a lemon! Guy has decent wheels but can’t hit a receiver unless there is 30 yards of separation, he’s uncomfortable in the pocket and stares down receivers. He’s a poor man’s Tim Tebow and that’s dirt poor.

ND needs to stop the rent-a-QB, develop SOMEONE!

The admin has settle for average and that’s not changing, 9-3 and they’ll give Freeman an extension.

Football Notre Dame's defense didn't do enough in loss to Northern Illinois

Notre Dame's defense only allowed 16 points, but it let Northern Illinois score 13 of them on its first three drives, gave up 6.0 yards per play and let NIU convert twice on its final drive to kick the game-winning field goal.

Under appreciated

100% correct.

There is a disturbing pattern here by now.
Last year, people complained about Parker's offense. But we never had a game this bad under him. Maybe the Louisville game, because of the 5 turnovers, but that was a much better opponent.

But Parker believed in establishing the run. Estime had a great season - one of the best by an ND RB in years. I prefer that type of offense, personally. It may not be flashy, but it works most of the time. Michigan rode an offense like that to a championship last year.
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