theskibro said:

Very impressed. Class act. Interviewed by michael Wilbon and was extremely complementary of Marcus freeman. Says he will turn things around. Called freeman after the game and offered to help in any way Said freeman was a total gentleman.

All great to hear. I still am out of patience with freeman. 3 years. Losses to inferior opponents continue Its bad

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savvyandsassier said:

Born and raised Catholic as well but long since lapsed, I think my HS was weirdly expensive, but I'm from Hawaii and everything's expensive there. In any case, I get the feeling when my dad went to ND in an earlier era, it was a different place than it is now. Post Hesburgh and on the rise, in terms of ambitiously aspiring to lofty scholarly status and reputation, but certainly not yet the elite prestige dispenser it's become today. Which to be fair is true of all elite colleges almost default, that's what college has become. That's the so-called meritocracy. Which by now effectively acts as an outright de facto aristocracy. And one's entire destiny is set in motion by one's HS GPA and SAT scores, and the fancy college that alone gets you into. Not to mention the appalling cost. Even at a state university it's now a lot.

In any case, given how prestigious ND has become and has ascended to, that would be the best recruiting pitch to hammer home to qualified elite recruits, in a world where a prestige college diploma has become quasi official pedigree status, with very real and tangible privileges. And I'm sure they do. But the direction our economy is headed, I'm not even sure a ND diploma will be defense enough against the dwindling prospects of guaranteed, significant genteel employment with your trusty diploma opening all the doors for you. What with AI ready to wreak havoc all throughout the white collar ranks.

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NDSMC78 said:

Yeah, it would dilute the academic reputation of the school.

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chaseball said:

Takes a lot of humility when you are the head coach at one of the most prominent college football teams in america to ask for help. I like the move.

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sjb75 said:

Beating shit teams, going 35-5, and making the 4 team playoff twice beats losing at home to Northern Illinois, Stanford, and Marshall.

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theskibro said:

TelX
We are in a bad way. Freeman was in an enviable position -
Despite losing 3-4 games to inferior opponents and prior to the latest loss to NIU, everyone was behind Freeman and wanted him to succeed
This was going to be the year

Now, That’s gone. The goodwill. The promise of a great year

And the same applies to Leonard. I don’t have any confidence in him. Teams will make him throw and he won’t be able to

We will win this week but imo lose 2 more games this year. This coach bet on another portal qb and it’s not going to work out

Angeli or Carr should get in after Leonard struggles

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notredame79 said:

If he was hiding the injury, why did he get a shot?

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ZibbyQuinn said:

Not in the stadium but from plenty of sofas around the country. I know you got a hard on for BK and Book and going to quote their W/L record against shite teams

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tkirish said:

Savvy I was sort of being sarcastic about returning money. But I will say that if players want a payday, that’s fine. I have no problem with that. However, the other part of the equation is , you better play good and win. As a player making money , you sort of put yourself in a “ put up or shut up “ box. If your QB is getting a million dollars off of NIL and he plays like crap for 2 straight games, fans are going to vent their frustration. The fans pay big money to watch in person, so I can’t blame them for booing.

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sjb75 said:

Your hourly condemnation of Riley Leonard is a bit much.

Give it a rest.

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banmate6 said:

Harsh as you are, you are generally correct. It's like taking part of the Iron Triangle Slave Trades...you claim your ships are clean, offer safe passage, food, water. But you're still a part of it!



I know I'll get flak for my comment. But there is an air of hypocrisy here. As an immigrant myself, we had affordable Catholic education as an option. I went to Catholic grammar school, HS (run by the Congregation of Holy Cross that runs ND), and a Jesuit university.

The current tuition and elitism are appalling. Slowly eroding the Catholic identity. And yet they quibble over taking in marginalized students that could stand a remedial program, as they help build and maintain a binding football brand?

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