ZibbyQuinn said:

I think he’s a better fit at LB.. common for players to look slow when learning a new position but think he’s a bitter for losing 20 lbs and back at LB. Obviously won’t happen for depth reasons

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Golson5 said:

Lol

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futuredomer said:

I will take the side of factual evidence the same way everyone on this board did w/ RL's ability to throw a football to someone in blue and gold...you use your tiny brain to always suggest the opposite thinking your smarter than everyone🥱 In the end you will be proven wrong when we lead the nation in season ending injuries for which, this guy was hired to prevent and he will be fired for it AGAIN! CLOWN!! Last thing I'm going to say is I don't care what the reasons are RL can't throw and is the only starting QB in CFB w/ out a td pass thru 3 games! I don't care why we lead the nation in season ending injuries! The only 2 people responsible are RL & Landow!

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FightingIrish44 said:

Tuihalamaka is 260? The roster lists him at 255 and I don’t think he’s actually 255.

I don’t think be can get to 280. He’s a DE all the way and a serviceable one in my opinion.

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Golson5 said:

From what I remember, he was let go when They changed coaches. Sean Payton came in and brought in his own team which is very common. Especially for a coach like Payton

Soft tissue injuries can be directed to a strength coach, hamstring calf issues. Conditioning and a lack of physical fitness and explosiveness yes.

But ligament damage. Not buying it.

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BleedingBlueNGold said:

That's where you're wrong. As I have said, proper strength and conditioning can lead to players being more resilient and take instances of getting rolled up on better with less risk of serious injury The overall number of injuries at the end of the year will be telling. We are already leading college football with them. And as everyone knows, Landow was fired from the Broncos for this exact reason. This is not a coincidence.

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1. Ian Book (2017-2020)
   • Career Stats: 8,948 passing yards, 72 touchdowns, 20 interceptions
   • Book is notable for his dual-threat capability and leadership, leading the team to a playoff appearance in 2018. He holds several school records for passing efficiency and total offense.
2. Brandon Wimbush (2015-2018)
   • Career Stats: 3,969 passing yards, 41 touchdowns, 13 interceptions; also rushed for 1,255 yards
   • Wimbush's dynamic playmaking ability and strong arm made him a significant offensive threat during his time as a starter.
3. Jimmy Clausen (2007-2009)
   • Career Stats: 8,148 passing yards, 60 touchdowns, 27 interceptions
   • Clausen had impressive statistics but struggled with team success. He remains second all-time in passing yards at Notre Dame and is known for his accuracy and low interception ratio.
4. Tommy Rees (2010-2013)
   • Career Stats: 7,670 passing yards, 61 touchdowns, 37 interceptions
   • Rees was known for his resilience and ability to lead the team through tough situations, contributing significantly to the team's success in the early 2010s.
5. DeShone Kizer (2014-2016)
   • Career Stats: 5,809 passing yards, 47 touchdowns, 19 interceptions
   • Kizer showcased great potential and physical tools but had inconsistent performances throughout his career.
6. Everett Golson (2012-2014)
   • Career Stats: 5,850 passing yards, 41 touchdowns, 20 interceptions; also rushed for over 800 yards
   • Golson led the team to a national championship game appearance but faced challenges with turnovers.

chaseball said:

Based on the search results and my knowledge of Notre Dame football, here is a ranking of Notre Dame quarterbacks from best to worst since 2009:

1. Ian Book (2017-2020)
   Ian Book holds the record for most wins by a Notre Dame starting quarterback with 30 victories. He led the Irish to two College Football Playoff appearances and finished his career with a stellar .857 winning percentage.
2. DeShone Kizer (2015-2016)
   Though not mentioned specifically in the search results, Kizer had an impressive two-year stint as Notre Dame's starter, leading the team to the Fiesta Bowl in 2015.
3. Everett Golson (2012-2014)
   Golson led Notre Dame to the BCS National Championship game in 2012 and had a solid career overall, despite missing the 2013 season.
4. Tommy Rees (2010-2013)
   Rees started 31 games for Notre Dame, compiling a respectable 23-8 record as a starter. He showed consistency and leadership during his time with the Irish.
5. Jimmy Clausen (2007-2009)
   While Clausen's tenure ended just before 2009, he's worth mentioning. He threw for 8,148 yards and 60 touchdowns in his career, ranking second and third all-time respectively for Notre Dame. However, his win-loss record (16-18) was less impressive

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Golson5 said:

I don't know how all of the injuries happened, but nothing a strength coach can do about those that happened Saturday

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Golson5 said:

If you're counting Clausen, he's better than Book

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chaseball said:

Here's what Perplexity AI thought (included Jimmy Clausen but what the hell?)

Based on the search results and my knowledge of Notre Dame football, here is a ranking of Notre Dame quarterbacks from best to worst since 2009:

1. Ian Book (2017-2020)
   Ian Book holds the record for most wins by a Notre Dame starting quarterback with 30 victories. He led the Irish to two College Football Playoff appearances and finished his career with a stellar .857 winning percentage.
2. DeShone Kizer (2015-2016)
   Though not mentioned specifically in the search results, Kizer had an impressive two-year stint as Notre Dame's starter, leading the team to the Fiesta Bowl in 2015.
3. Everett Golson (2012-2014)
   Golson led Notre Dame to the BCS National Championship game in 2012 and had a solid career overall, despite missing the 2013 season.
4. Tommy Rees (2010-2013)
   Rees started 31 games for Notre Dame, compiling a respectable 23-8 record as a starter. He showed consistency and leadership during his time with the Irish.
5. Jimmy Clausen (2007-2009)
   While Clausen's tenure ended just before 2009, he's worth mentioning. He threw for 8,148 yards and 60 touchdowns in his career, ranking second and third all-time respectively for Notre Dame. However, his win-loss record (16-18) was less impressive.
6. Brandon Wimbush (2017-2018)
   Wimbush had moments of brilliance but struggled with consistency, eventually losing the starting job to Ian Book.
7. Malik Zaire (2014-2016)
   Zaire showed promise but injuries and competition limited his playing time.
8. Dayne Crist (2010-2011)
   Crist struggled with injuries and inconsistency during his time as a starter.
9. Drew Pyne (2022)
   Pyne started 10 games for Notre Dame in 2022, but his performance was underwhelming enough that he transferred to Arizona State as a backup.

This ranking takes into account factors such as win-loss record, statistical performance, and overall impact on the program. It's worth noting that rankings can be subjective and may vary depending on the criteria used.

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chaseball said:

Here's how I would rank our QBs since the start of the BK era:

High P4 level players/borderline stars:

1. Book (3 star)
2. Kizer (4 star)

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Above average P4 starters:

3. Golson (low 4 star)

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Good P4 level #2 QB/borderline starter:

4. Tommy Rees (3 star)
5. All the 1 year stop gaps post Ian Book including Pyne, Coan, Hartman, etc. (3-4 star)

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Injury/performance/etc. derailed their career but still started games:

6. Everybody else

I haven't included Riley Leonard in these rankings as I think the jury is still out on where he ultimately fits in, but I'd be surprised if its above the tier Rees is in but maybe the upside is there for the Golson tier.

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1. Ian Book (2017-2020)
   Ian Book holds the record for most wins by a Notre Dame starting quarterback with 30 victories. He led the Irish to two College Football Playoff appearances and finished his career with a stellar .857 winning percentage.
2. DeShone Kizer (2015-2016)
   Though not mentioned specifically in the search results, Kizer had an impressive two-year stint as Notre Dame's starter, leading the team to the Fiesta Bowl in 2015.
3. Everett Golson (2012-2014)
   Golson led Notre Dame to the BCS National Championship game in 2012 and had a solid career overall, despite missing the 2013 season.
4. Tommy Rees (2010-2013)
   Rees started 31 games for Notre Dame, compiling a respectable 23-8 record as a starter. He showed consistency and leadership during his time with the Irish.
5. Jimmy Clausen (2007-2009)
   While Clausen's tenure ended just before 2009, he's worth mentioning. He threw for 8,148 yards and 60 touchdowns in his career, ranking second and third all-time respectively for Notre Dame. However, his win-loss record (16-18) was less impressive.
6. Brandon Wimbush (2017-2018)
   Wimbush had moments of brilliance but struggled with consistency, eventually losing the starting job to Ian Book.
7. Malik Zaire (2014-2016)
   Zaire showed promise but injuries and competition limited his playing time.
8. Dayne Crist (2010-2011)
   Crist struggled with injuries and inconsistency during his time as a starter.
9. Drew Pyne (2022)
   Pyne started 10 games for Notre Dame in 2022, but his performance was underwhelming enough that he transferred to Arizona State as a backup.

futuredomer said:

Then why did it happen to him for 6 straight years on Sunday's?...must be an unlucky guy🤔...and it ABSOLUTELY WAS WHY HE WAS FIRED!!!!!

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Golson5 said:

How can I say what?

The team looks good athletically and physically? They do. The team hasn't had any conditioning issues, they haven't.

I don't know how all of the injuries happened, but nothing a strength coach can do about those that happened Saturday

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