IrishMike409 said:

And to challenge your post: we've gotten guys as talented and heralded as Collins. They didn't work out at ND.

It's a long list:

Styles, Johnson, Colze, Flores. I'm sure I left guys out too.

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Quix0te said:

Just to keep this friendly, how about $100? The wager will be finalized when USC completes its 2027 schedule. If ND is on it, you win. If not, I win.

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Golson5 said:

Very possible. What's your point

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NDinNJ said:

Based on his performance to date, Leonard won't go in the 2nd round either.

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Golson5 said:

Cool

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NDinNJ said:

But you're wrong far more than they are.

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Golson5 said:

Yeah you're wrong. There's plenty of guys with first round talent that don't go in the first rd for many reasons. Legal issues, injury issues etc.

NFL GMs are wrong a lot and also scouting and evaluating players is hard. Lot of talented players out there who are 1st rd talents end up not being drafted in the first rd for many reasons.

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chaseball said:

They've aired the first two episodes already on FX. Just watched them recently and thought the football/college football scenes have been really good. They have Urban Meyer depicted as a win-at-all-cost narcissist. Anybody watching/have any opinions on the series so far?

American Sports Story (TV Series 2024– ) ⭐ 7.2 | Biography, Drama, Sport

44m | TV-MA

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Patrirish said:

That’s not the issue.
You said that he had genuine first round talent
Players with genuine first round talent get drafted in the first round

The fact that players drafted subsequently turn out to be superstars is irrelevant

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Golson5 said:

I don't think he will get drafted in the 1st round. He has 1st round talent. 2 different points.

This is the dumbest point you've made and there's so many of them. Some of the best and most talented players in league history weren't drafted in the first rd.

Just an awful argument but not surprising coming from you

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echowaker said:

I don't think anyone thinks they are. That said they are the ones most informed to make decisions.

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Quest4Twelve said:

Let me preface this by saying I know ND football had a pretty extensive home winning streak up until Cincinnati.

Maybe this is anecdotal, but I believe when Notre Dame plays away, they take on us against the world mentality and they just play much better and harder. Not to mention I’d like the white and gold combo much better. 😉

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huff60 said:

Slice it any way you want. Quite simply, Notre Dame, as always, simply has a below average wide receiver group for a team that hopes to get in the playoffs. Or the QB isn’t quite the passer we thought he was.Every year we’re told it’s going to be different and every year… Do you realize that you have to go back , yes, to Jimmy Clausen , to find the last good passer?
Sadly, that’s just a fact.😡
‘s just a fact.

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88ND said:

When does the Camel back break via straw?
When will a slew teams say enough is enough. This entire thing is wrong and we're going our own way. Done with paying for playing.
One team does it then it's suicide.
A group of teams do it then it gets attention.
A bunch of teams do it that makes a difference.


This whole pay to play ordeal has become insanity meets loco meets wild west meets....

Notre Dame football needs to distance itself from Tennessee's 'fan fee' idea

The Tennessee Volunteers are rolling out a fan fee next season and Notre Dame football needs to stay far away from the idea.

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mcdermottrules said:

I'll take that bet. What do you have in mind for stakes?

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Pennick4 said:

Hope Bodi is healthy and well. Don't miss you he other guy.

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Quix0te said:

Wanna bet? You think a female AD who has been on the job for one year and who has already echoed Riley's comments is going to over-rule a head coach on a ten-year, $100 million contract? There has been no outcry from the USC alumni about cancelling the series, and while some sportswriters have moaned and groaned, others actually support Riley's position (link).

Let's face it, USC will be playing a much tougher schedule going forward than ND will, USC already has an archrival and the Big Ten won't be involved with scheduling an OOC game like the Pac-12 was.

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savvyandsassier said:

and almost made RL look expendable.

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echowaker said:

Except with a young o line that struggles in pass protection as they mature, an immobile QB is a liability. At this point in time the running ability of Leonard in read option is crucial. Evans becoming more healthy should help the passing attack. It's not gonna be prolific by any stretch of the imagination. I like Angeli in small doses but he's a statue back there and has a high percentage of sacks per dropbacks in his short career. Hell the one last week was completely inexcusable. Just stood there.

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