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Chitownrealist said:
I am surprised so many continue to talk about ND not making the playoff with 1 loss. People are listening to media too much. They are just trying to generate clicks and create energy around announcements. ND with 1 loss is a stone cold lock. In 2023 the lowest ranked 1 loss team at the end of regular season was ranked No. 7 by CFP committee. In 2022 the lowest 1 loss team was ranked 4th at end of regular season. In 2021 lowest ranked 1 loss team at end of regular season was No. 5. (I don’t count the Louisiana Rajin Cajuns who were 12-1 and ranked 23). 2020 was Covid.

Assuming we win out (and I recognize that is no gimme), the question is not whether we make the playoff at 11-1. The question is whether we are hosting.
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Football Notre Dame QB Riley Leonard makes Davey O'Brien Award top 35

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Heres' the full release from the Davey O'Brien Foundation:

FORT WORTH, Texas (Oct. 29, 2024) – The Davey O’Brien Foundation has revealed the 35 quarterbacks named to the Davey O’Brien QB Class of 2024. Each member of the group is now an official candidate to win the 2024 Davey O’Brien National Quarterback Award.

This year’s class includes: Drew Allar (Penn State), Luke Altmyer (Illinois), Rocco Becht (Iowa State), Carson Beck (Georgia), Max Brosmer (Minnesota), Bryson Daily (Army West Point), Jaxson Dart (Ole Miss), Kyron Drones (Virginia Tech), Quinn Ewers (Texas), Dillon Gabriel (Oregon), Eli Holstein (Pitt), Josh Hoover (TCU), Blake Horvath (Navy), Will Howard (Ohio State), Kevin Jennings (SMU), Avery Johnson (Kansas State), Cade Klubnik (Clemson), Riley Leonard (Notre Dame), Maddux Madsen (Boise State), John Mateer (Washington State), Jordan McCloud (Texas State), Kyle McCord (Syracuse), Jalen Milroe (Alabama), Chandler Morris (North Texas), Garrett Nussmeier (LSU), Diego Pavia (Vanderbilt), Jake Retzlaff (BYU), Kurtis Rourke (Indiana), Shedeur Sanders (Colorado), Tyler Shough (Louisville), Brendan Sorsby (Cincinnati), Caden Veltkamp (Western Kentucky), Cam Ward (Miami), Hajj-Malik Williams (UNLV) and Ben Wooldridge (Louisiana).

The 35 quarterbacks have helped lead their respective teams to a combined record of 217-51 (.810), and all of the teams possess a record of better than .500 through week nine.

The next step in the process will be to select the award’s 16 semifinalists from the 35 quarterbacks. The semifinalists will be chosen based on voting from the Davey O’Brien National Selection Committee as well as bonus ballots awarded from the first round of the Davey O’Brien Fan Vote.

For the fifth straight year, the Fan Vote will take place on the award’s three social media platforms—Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (X)—and the top five vote getters on each platform will receive bonus committee member ballots which will be added to the votes cast by the National Selection Committee.

To participate in the Fan Vote, fans must like the original Davey O’Brien Award (@daveyobrien) post highlighting their quarterback. First-round voting will close Friday, Nov. 8 at 11:59 p.m. (ET). The semifinalists will be named on Tuesday, Nov. 12. Looking ahead, the three finalists will be tabbed on Tuesday, Nov. 26, while the winner will be announced live on Thursday, Dec. 12, on The Home Depot College Football Awards on ESPN.

The Davey O’Brien Foundation was created in 1977, and the National Quarterback Award was first issued in 1981. Over its time, the Davey O’Brien Foundation has given away more than $1.3 million in scholarships and university grants to help high school and college athletes transform leadership on the field into leadership in life.

In 1938, O’Brien, who was a star quarterback for TCU, became the first player ever to win the Heisman Trophy, Maxwell Award and Walter Camp Award in the same year. He was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 1955.

The Davey O’Brien National Quarterback Award is presented annually to the nation’s best college quarterback and is the oldest and most prestigious national quarterback award. The 48th Annual Davey O’Brien Awards Dinner honoring the winner will be held Monday, Feb. 17, 2025, at The Fort Worth Club in Fort Worth, Texas.

Davey O’Brien QB Class of 2024

Drew Allar, Penn State, Jr., 6-5, 235, Medina, Ohio

Luke Altmyer, Illinois, Jr., 6-2, 205, Starkville, Miss.

Rocco Becht, Iowa State, So., 6-1, 210, Wesley Chapel, Fla.

Carson Beck, Georgia, Sr., 6-4, 220, Jacksonville, Fla.

Max Brosmer, Minnesota, Sr., 6-2, 225, Roswell, Ga.

Bryson Daily, Army West Point, Sr., 6-0, 221, Abernathy, Texas

Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss, Sr., 6-2, 225, Kaysville, Utah

Kyron Drones, Virginia Tech, Jr., 6-2, 234, Houston, Texas

Quinn Ewers, Texas, Jr., 6-2, 210, Southlake, Texas

Dillon Gabriel, Oregon, Sr., 6-0, 200, Mililani, Hawaii

Eli Holstein, Pittsburgh, R-Fr., 6-4, 225, Zachary, La.

Josh Hoover, TCU, So., 6-2, 200, Heath, Texas

Blake Horvath, Navy, Jr., 6-2, 195, Hilliard, Ohio

Will Howard, Ohio State, Sr., 6-4, 235, Downingtown, Pa.

Kevin Jennings, SMU, So., 6-0, 185, Oak Cliff, Texas

Avery Johnson, Kansas State, So., 6-2, 192, Wichita, Kan.

Cade Klubnik, Clemson, Jr., 6-2, 210, Austin, Texas

Riley Leonard, Notre Dame, Sr., 6-4, 216, Fairhope, Ala.

Maddux Madsen, Boise State, So., 5-10, 201, American Fork, Utah

John Mateer, Washington State, So., 6-1, 219, Little Elm, Texas

Jordan McCloud, Texas State, Sr., 6-0, 205, Tampa, Fla.

Kyle McCord, Syracuse, Sr., 6-3, 220, Mt. Laurel, N.J.

Jalen Milroe, Alabama, Jr., 6-2, 225, Katy, Texas

Chandler Morris, North Texas, Jr., 6-0, 191, Highland Park, Texas

Garrett Nussmeier, LSU, Jr., 6-2, 200, Lake Charles, La.

Diego Pavia, Vanderbilt, Sr., 6-0, 207, Albuquerque, N.M.

Jake Retzlaff, BYU, Jr., 6-1, 205, Corona, Calif.

Kurtis Rourke, Indiana, Sr., 6-5, 223, Oakville, Ontario, Canada

Shedeur Sanders, Colorado, Sr., 6-2, 215, Dallas, Texas

Tyler Shough, Louisville, Sr., 6-5, 225, Chandler, Ariz.

Brendan Sorsby, Cincinnati, So., 6-3, 228, Denton, Texas

Caden Veltkamp, Western Kentucky, So., 6-6, 236, Bowling Green, Ky.

Cam Ward, Miami, Sr., 6-2, 223, West Columbia, Texas

Hajj-Malik Williams, UNLV, Sr., 6-1, 205, Atlanta, Ga.

Ben Wooldridge, Louisiana, Sr., 6-3, 216, Pleasanton, Calif.
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Chitownrealist said:
I am surprised so many continue to talk about ND not making the playoff with 1 loss. People are listening to media too much. They are just trying to generate clicks and create energy around announcements. ND with 1 loss is a stone cold lock. In 2023 the lowest ranked 1 loss team at the end of regular season was ranked No. 7 by CFP committee. In 2022 the lowest 1 loss team was ranked 4th at end of regular season. In 2021 lowest ranked 1 loss team at end of regular season was No. 5. (I don’t count the Louisiana Rajin Cajuns who were 12-1 and ranked 23). 2020 was Covid.

Assuming we win out (and I recognize that is no gimme), the question is not whether we make the playoff at 11-1. The question is whether we are hosting.
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The chatter about this is nothing new and it's the media still being pissed ND won't conform to a conference.

Middle finger to the lot of them
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savvyandsassier said:
Why would you say that, they're definitely in with 10-2. It's a slam dunk playoff resume. This is just more BK hating. The only scenario is scores of 11-1 teams, above and beyond the historical norm, and that would keep them out. Like with Pitt, Miami and Clemson from the ACC. I don't know their schedules and if that's even possible, but as of today. But if there were seven different 11-1 P4 teams to finish the season, then I guess LSU would or at least could be out. Four weeks to go before that eventuality.
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Not definitely in at 10 and 2. Possible but not definite
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Juniper_Run said:
I agree completely with the OP's assessment. It will be a nail-biter to see if we get to host a game. My prediction is that we end up with the 8 seed if we win out, but we could easily drop to 9 or 10 if various games don't go our way.

I also predict that ND fans will be really angry with the first playoff committee rankings. I think teams like BYU, IU, Iowa St., and maybe even Pitt will all be ahead of us and we'll land somewhere around 12 or 13. We'll move up as the weeks pass, but not until a few more upsets or ranked vs ranked games happen elsewhere.
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Indeed, it will be very interesting to see the initial rankings. And one thing to note, now that there are no more separate divisions within the conferences even necessitating a CCG, but they're still going to have them, is a team going to be punished for losing in the CCG? If LSU makes the CCG, and loses to UGA, are they out? And would have been better off finishing third at 10-2, and letting some other team get that third loss? Because that would be lame. CCGs losses cannot be part of the playoff criteria. Only winning it, not losing it. If so, it would borderline disincentivize even getting in, and you'd rather hang back in the cut, and let somebody else take the loss. Though of course winning the game would certainly secure a playoff berth.
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Chitown11 said:
No way is lsu in with 10-2
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Why would you say that, they're definitely in with 10-2. It's a slam dunk playoff resume. This is just more BK hating. The only scenario is scores of 11-1 teams, above and beyond the historical norm, and that would keep them out. Like with Pitt, Miami and Clemson from the ACC. I don't know their schedules and if that's even possible, but as of today. But if there were seven different 11-1 P4 teams to finish the season, then I guess LSU would or at least could be out. Four weeks to go before that eventuality.
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I agree completely with the OP's assessment. It will be a nail-biter to see if we get to host a game. My prediction is that we end up with the 8 seed if we win out, but we could easily drop to 9 or 10 if various games don't go our way.

I also predict that ND fans will be really angry with the first playoff committee rankings. I think teams like BYU, IU, Iowa St., and maybe even Pitt will all be ahead of us and we'll land somewhere around 12 or 13. We'll move up as the weeks pass, but not until a few more upsets or ranked vs ranked games happen elsewhere.
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THUNDERSTRUCK111 said:
Especially when they are touting a 2 loss LSU as still in the playoff hunt.
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They definitely are still in the playoff hunt. A 10-2 LSU team is in. But not over an 11-1 ND team. But maybe these pundits are on to something. Maybe ND could be in a little trouble even at 11-1. I wouldn't think so, but there's some chatter out there in the mediasphere suggesting otherwise.

LSU is in at 10-2 that much is for sure.
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IrishMike409 said:
Agree....11-1, and we're in.

I worry about the last 2 weeks. We go out to the east coast to play a likely undefeated Army Team, then turnaround that next week (Thanksgiving), and go to LA to play a talented USC team.

These last 4 weeks of college football will be a wild ride. Nothing gonna come easy for ND.
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Kinda makes you wish the Bye was on 11/9. But thankfully it's this week, as it gives them a chance to recharge so they can put their heads down and dig. Let's hope FSU comes up to South Bend and lays an egg, so the starters can sit out the 4th quarter. And nobody gets injured. ND schedule has had almost perfect bye placement. 5 games...bye...3 games...bye...4 games....bye...hopefully host playoff game.
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Agree....11-1, and we're in.

I worry about the last 2 weeks. We go out to the east coast to play a likely undefeated Army Team, then turnaround that next week (Thanksgiving), and go to LA to play a talented USC team.

These last 4 weeks of college football will be a wild ride. Nothing gonna come easy for ND.
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If this continues where due to large league size and no ability to play everybody, could anyone foresee the future addition of a seeding game the same week as the conference title games in order to break potential tie breakers? For example: In the B1G scenario, let's say Ohio State rematches with Oregon. and P-State and Indiana are both 11-1. P-State playes Indiana to determine the At-Large bid? Or do they all get in? What happens if Ohio St loses and is 11-2? They would have beaten P-State and Indiana. Do they get in at 11-2 over one of those two? Or does the B1G Title game loss keep them out?
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