The first snowfall
- By sjb75
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Some models are biased early on because there is not enough data but drop it once the web of team games connects everybody.
If ND is locked in assignment wise, not much. But we were not locked in vs Navy with our assignments. They had a number of big explosives. The unforced turnovers are what made that game a blow out.Army has scored 20 and 14 points respectively in their last 2 games against really bad teams. How much can they expect to score against arguably the best defense in the country ?
That’s just sjb75 expressing his opinion that irrespective of the OP thought process, that HE (sjb75) didn’t forget these two. This is NOT sjb75 using Stu4don as another handle, but I can see where you might think this.@stu4don so why would I reply to your post & sjb75 answer for you? Your math aint mathin sport.
Army is ranked and tulane is rankedArmy has not played anyone yet who comes remotely close to the talent, speed, athleticism and physicality of ND. Their schedule is mostly the bottom feeders of college football. Barring a rash of turnovers by the offense I believe ND wins quite decisively.
This is true. Although the QB didn't play 2 games ago and was injured still last week I believe.Army has scored 20 and 14 points respectively in their last 2 games against really bad teams. How much can they expect to score against arguably the best defense in the country ?
True. An underdog on a neutral field to Oregon, Texas, Ohio St., Georgia, etc., yes, but not a significant one.Delusional. ND would not be a big underdog to anyone on a neutral field. You're just not paying attention.
The OP is an incessant troll.Yep. For reasons unknown, the OP continues to insist that teams should be evaluated by some obscure formula, as opposed to how they play on the field. Very strange.
He lives and dies by star ratings given to high school players by groups that are clearly subjective . It's about as an inexact science you'll find this side of NFL draft evaluators.Yep. For reasons unknown, the OP continues to insist that teams should be evaluated by some obscure formula, as opposed to how they play on the field. Very strange.
That's fair.Well, Purdue sure isn't one of them powerhouse programs this season!
Well to be fair, everything about that 'formula', consists of data points derived from the games themselves. It's just that wins and losses, which really is all the fuss is about when it comes to sports, are just a data point, possibly not even an important one. The main data points comprise things like 3rd down efficiency, how many big chunk plays you make, your red zone performance, how well you compile various statistics versus different opponents in different conditions, etc. It's just data, data, data, data. And they write some algorithm that shuffles the data points, these mathematical figures, through some process, some elaborate series of equations. And when it's all done they spit out a number. And then they rank the teams by who has the highest number. And apparently it's felt that its possible, by way of these equations, to arrive at a 'score', we'll call it, by which you can make some not completely undue or misplaced or inappropriate claim of who the best teams really are. On account of a proper appreciation of what teams accomplish on the field, in what circumstances, over the course of a game, the the course of a season. When the ball is snapped, and a play is attempted and completed. And of course this goes for both offense and defense, both orientations. And the various categories of play on the field that can be measured numerically in some fashion, and then thrown into the mix to be mathematically processed and factored into the final numerical score, is large. I suppose you have to draw the line somewhere, and not every key component to success on the football field is easily quantifiable, but that's a judgement call for the little code writers on their keyboards to decide. One would think they work with coaches and football people when constructing these algorithms, so when all the computing is finished, and the score is revealed, that you picked the right statistical considerations to prioritize or not, so that justice could sort of be served? But I don't know....Yep. For reasons unknown, the OP continues to insist that teams should be evaluated by some obscure formula, as opposed to how they play on the field. Very strange.
Army has scored 20 and 14 points respectively in their last 2 games against really bad teams. How much can they expect to score against arguably the best defense in the country ?Yep, I think Navy is better than Army IMO (maybe no last few weeks) but I thought they were clearly better rolling into our game.
Yep, I think Navy is better than Army IMO (maybe no last few weeks) but I thought they were clearly better rolling into our game.Army has not played anyone yet who comes remotely close to the talent, speed, athleticism and physicality of ND. Their schedule is mostly the bottom feeders of college football. Barring a rash of turnovers by the offense I believe ND wins quite decisively.