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Why does it seem like "hosting a playoff game" is the ultimate goal at ND these days?

I consume a lot of ND football related content from the local ND insiders. Read a lot of ND related commentary from fans online. It seems like a lot of people are talking about "hosting a playoff game" as if this would be some major accomplishment in and of itself.

The goal is to win a national title at Notre Dame! As an independent there is literally nothing else. Its national title or bust. Every year ND doesn't win a national title, the season is a literal failure/waste.

The last 35 years are a literal non factor in the history of ND Football. This entire time period will be a completely overlooked blur/non factor in the annuls of ND football. NOTHING has been achieved. Why do I feel like the only ND fan left on the planet that gives a sh!t about this?

Where is the ND fans & ND brass sense of ambition ? Everybody just seems so lethargic and resigned to playing 2nd fiddle to the programs that are actually relevant in the national championship discussion in college football. And this "hosting a playoff game" rhetoric is driving me crazy. F hosting a playoff game. We're here to win the entire thing!

This program is a revenue leader in the sport. This program has every institutional advantage you can possibly think of as a program with more eyeballs on it than almost any other in the entire sport. We are not some indie band, we're the Fn Beatles! Why won't the administration of this football program start acting like it!?
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A high value win being way more useful than avoiding a 'bad loss'.
Yes.

This is how advanced ranking systems operate. The systems are way more concerned with who you beat/who you compete with during the season than some random 1 off instance of losing to some clearly inferior team.

Unfortunately the way the AP & CFP rank teams is to put way too much weight on a random slip up game and how many strikes are in the loss column when its a backwards ass way to evaluate the quality of teams.

Why does it seem like "hosting a playoff game" is the ultimate goal at ND these days?

I dont really have any specific links or resources on this one.

I follow a lot of ND outlets on x/twitter. I listen to a lot of podcasts. And everybody is talking up "hosting a playoff game" as this ultimate achievement at Notre Dame or something. Its talked about as if it would define a successful season. I think Notre Dame/ND PR/ND insiders are trying to set this expectation/narrative.

"Hey we might not be bama/georgia/osu/texas/oregon/etc. (the new modern powers in college football) but we hosted a playoff game this season!"

My instinctive response when i hear this rhetoric is an eye roll so hard that my eye balls feel like theyre going to come out of their socket.

At ND its no longer about recruiting the best talent from coast to coast in the top football states, developing consensus all americans, winning heisman trophies, graduating first round talent to the NFL in bunches, and competing for the most prestigious hardware the sport has to offer.

Modern ND is about scooping up the tier 1s castoffs/rejects/Plan Bs & Cs (on the cheap because of "ideals" and "values"™ :rolleyes:), watering down the schedule vs crap teams in the ACC & G5, finishing the season with the most hollow 10+ win season possible, "hosting a playoff game", and then happily getting smoked by a modern power in college football that is actually investing in a top tier product.

But hey, I hear the girls fencing team is top notch at ND these days :rolleyes:
Don't f*** with the women's fencers or you'll get the épée!

Why does it seem like "hosting a playoff game" is the ultimate goal at ND these days?

Isn't the goal to win an NC?

ND has been ranked 5th-7th before ... (in fact they've been ranked three times in the top 4 under BK in the FBS postseason)

the goal shouldn't be to "host a playoff game" but to win the playoff.

Just kind of getting tired of the "hosting" rhetoric that seems to be going around ND nation right now.

I can see it now

"2024 was successful bro, we hosted a playoff game"

you get nothing for hosting a playoff game or winning the first 3 rounds in the playoff.

you think the top dogs in the BIG10 and SEC are hyping up "the chance to host a playoff game" ? no .. they got their minds dead set on bringing home a national title victory to their fans.
This is getting old....

Why does it seem like "hosting a playoff game" is the ultimate goal at ND these days?

I consume a lot of ND football related content from the local ND insiders. Read a lot of ND related commentary from fans online. It seems like a lot of people are talking about "hosting a playoff game" as if this would be some major accomplishment in and of itself.

The goal is to win a national title at Notre Dame! As an independent there is literally nothing else. Its national title or bust. Every year ND doesn't win a national title, the season is a literal failure/waste.

The last 35 years are a literal non factor in the history of ND Football. This entire time period will be a completely overlooked blur/non factor in the annuls of ND football. NOTHING has been achieved. Why do I feel like the only ND fan left on the planet that gives a sh!t about this?

Where is the ND fans & ND brass sense of ambition ? Everybody just seems so lethargic and resigned to playing 2nd fiddle to the programs that are actually relevant in the national championship discussion in college football. And this "hosting a playoff game" rhetoric is driving me crazy. F hosting a playoff game. We're here to win the entire thing!

This program is a revenue leader in the sport. This program has every institutional advantage you can possibly think of as a program with more eyeballs on it than almost any other in the entire sport. We are not some indie band, we're the Fn Beatles. Why won't the administration of this football program start acting like it!?

You're a fool. In order to win a championship, you need to first make the playoffs. It's really not that difficult to comprehend. Are you really that stupid?

Why does it seem like "hosting a playoff game" is the ultimate goal at ND these days?

I'm looking forward to hosting for the following reasons:

1. I'll be at the game. Can't wait to take it in.
2. We should be able to protect home field and advance to Rd 2
3. Recruits will attend,
4. If we play an SEC Team or Miami....I think they'll have a hard time playing in snow and cold temps.

1 game at a time Chase. Secure home field for Rd 1, and go from there.
This i understand.

My point isn't to say "hosting a playoff game is worthless and we should want to be the away team in the playoffs"

My point is that there seems to be a lot of rhetoric/expectation setting going on out there (and even around here) that if ND hosts a playoff game, it would be a goal in and of itself that fans should be satisfied with (regardless of the rest of the performance that takes place in the playoffs). THIS is the rhetoric that im speaking to in this topic.

Why does it seem like "hosting a playoff game" is the ultimate goal at ND these days?

I consume a lot of ND football related content from the local ND insiders. Read a lot of ND related commentary from fans online. It seems like a lot of people are talking about "hosting a playoff game" as if this would be some major accomplishment in and of itself.

The goal is to win a national title at Notre Dame! As an independent there is literally nothing else. Its national title or bust. Every year ND doesn't win a national title, the season is a literal failure/waste.

The last 35 years are a literal non factor in the history of ND Football. This entire time period will be a completely overlooked blur/non factor in the annuls of ND football. NOTHING has been achieved. Why do I feel like the only ND fan left on the planet that gives a sh!t about this?

Where is the ND fans & ND brass sense of ambition ? Everybody just seems so lethargic and resigned to playing 2nd fiddle to the programs that are actually relevant in the national championship discussion in college football. And this "hosting a playoff game" rhetoric is driving me crazy. F hosting a playoff game. We're here to win the entire thing!

This program is a revenue leader in the sport. This program has every institutional advantage you can possibly think of as a program with more eyeballs on it than almost any other in the entire sport. We are not some indie band, we're the Fn Beatles! Why won't the administration of this football program start acting like it!?

Why does it seem like "hosting a playoff game" is the ultimate goal at ND these days?

Because it would be awesome, rather than playing on the road. And yes, it is the ultimate goal. ND does not want, and has no interest in actually winning a national championship. Let's be clear. They just want to host playoff games, that's it. Everything is geared towards that goal. It's plastered all over the football facilities, this mantra, this very specific objective, so there's no mistake. A championship is neither here nor there, not really concerned about that at all. We just want to host a 1st round playoff game. Every season, every year the program sets that as its ultimate and annual and perennial goal. If we do win a championship that would be fine, but that would simply make it easier to achieve our real goal of hosting 1st round playoff games in future seasons, on account of the enhanced prestige and improved recruiting.
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Why does it seem like "hosting a playoff game" is the ultimate goal at ND these days?

You don’t seem to understand the problem with getting ahead of yourself instead of taking one step at a time

There is a progression to winning the NC

It starts with the season, Then hosting a playoff game, and then moving on to the NC
It seems this is difficult for chasehisballs to understand

Why does it seem like "hosting a playoff game" is the ultimate goal at ND these days?

You don’t seem to understand the problem with getting ahead of yourself instead of taking one step at a time

There is a progression to winning the NC

It starts with the season, Then hosting a playoff game, and then moving on to the NC
I do not expect Notre Dame to win a title in 2024. I hope they do. Winning 4 straight games is IMO unrealistic for this particular team.

The expectation for this fan is to make the playoff and win a game.
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Why does it seem like "hosting a playoff game" is the ultimate goal at ND these days?

Isn't the goal to win an NC?

ND has been ranked 5th-7th before ... (in fact they've been ranked three times in the top 4 under BK in the FBS postseason)

the goal shouldn't be to "host a playoff game" but to win the playoff.

Just kind of getting tired of the "hosting" rhetoric that seems to be going around ND nation right now.

I can see it now

"2024 was successful bro, we hosted a playoff game"

you get nothing for hosting a playoff game or winning the first 3 rounds in the playoff.

you think the top dogs in the BIG10 and SEC are hyping up "the chance to host a playoff game" ? no .. they got their minds dead set on bringing home a national title victory to their fans.
You don’t seem to understand the problem with getting ahead of yourself instead of taking one step at a time

There is a progression to winning the NC

It starts with the season, Then hosting a playoff game, and then moving on to the NC
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