Or hers...
You're right. I need to go back to the old "his/hers" form. I'm so insensitive!.
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You're right. I need to go back to the old "his/hers" form. I'm so insensitive!.
What I find funny is people who think everyone who opposes racist Nazi pigs and wannabe KKK are "leftist"!
Thank you. Good report on the time line. This is the first many of us have read it. This brings up another question. The local and state officials must have known this was going to be a disaster. Why issue a permit to begin with? Why not nip it in the bud and make it known that this city was not going to be a war zone for any reason by anybody? I think the city had a legal right to refuse but I'm not totally sure.
You're right. I need to go back to the old "his/hers" form. I'm so insensitive!.
I'm just kidding you. Since there aren't many of us on here, I love to throw it out there sometimes.
As an aside, it sadly looks like the circus is headed to my town soon......
https://rvamag.com/politics/local-p...n-front-of-richmonds-lee-statue-in-september/
I think you're better off ignoring them. Let them have their protest (which they're allowed to do under the First Amendment). A few days later, nobody will remember it.
The last time the Nazi's arrived in Charlottesville, there were only 50 of them and it was a big joke, so I bet they assumed more of the same. Plus, they were following the letter of the law assuming the right to free speech and peaceful protest. It had to be pretty evident things were headed south when both sides showed up ready to rumble.
His initial response drew praise from nazis and skinheads because they were not specifically cited. Sounds like you also approve.
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The city tried to move the rally larger park, but Kessler obtained in injunction stating that moving the rally would be against his free speech rights. My understanding is that the KKK held a rally in the same park in July, which was also met with a large number of counter-protesters. Its part of the reason why the city wanted to move the rally to a larger venue. Kessler sued and won.
That he condemned all hate?
Of course I approve.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?
I agree they should be ignored. I just don't understand this eagerness to blame those who protested the racists' march.
Imagine you're in New York City. A bunch of Al Qaeda sympathizers get a permit and march through downtown NYC. They are holding the flags of Al Qaeda and pictures of bin Laden. They are chanting vile slogans against the 911 victims.
Meanwhile, a bunch of good New Yorkers show up and beat the tar out of the terror sympathizers. But then, one of the Al Qaeda lovers runs his car into the crowd, killing one and injuring 19 of the New Yorkers.
The next day, I start a "prayers" thread for the dead and injured New Yorkers. Are you honestly telling me that you (or anyone) would show up in my thread to blame those New Yorkers?
Nazis are as bad as it gets. So too are Confederates, especially to those whose great-grandparents may have been owned like cattle by southern gentlemen. Those racist bastards came to start trouble and they succeeded. No reason to cast blame to anyone other than the racists.
As I said, you're responding to his statement in the same manner as the nazis and skinheads.
So those who don't see events as lslero is a Nazi Skinhead?
Got it
Got it
Why am I pathetic? What about my comments is pathetic? What has offended you so much that makes me the enemy? What have I said that you would blame me for what happened yesterday? Why are you a manipulator of young minds when you should be a nurturer of young minds? What would offend you so much that Jesus would condemn all violence? You don't believe that? What really is pathetic is that you can't play thought control with grown ups who has legit differing opinions.
You must not be a fan of affirmative action then?
I'm a huge police supporter. Unfortunately this was not LEO's finest hour. There should of been a huge frozen zone. The sides should never be allowed to mingle. Frozen zone means no cars allowed. Both sides behind metal stantions. If their marching then police march on both sides of the groups. Have aviation up in the air giving reports. All roof tops covered by law enforcement to prevent air mail. I am not blaming the grunts in the field but I'm blaming the police commissioner in that city. http://nypost.com/2017/08/13/nypd-we-would-have-done-a-better-job-in-charlottesville/
Actually, you don't get it. Having the same take on Trump's statement wouldn't make you a Nazi skinhead. Conversely, it wouldnt exclude you, so maybe you're making a confession.
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Don't think so. They're offtimes genuinely oblivious about what they're espousing.
These people are cartoons of what hate is. Real hard to take them seriously. You can take the Nazi out of the trailer park but.you can't take the trailer park out of the Nazi. The real fascist's of today are on college campuses.
I hope I live to see a day when y'all stop identifying as "righties" and "leftists" and resume identifying, united, as Americans. Too many good people on both sides of the aisle for your great nation to be angrily and bitterly divided in 2017.
Prayers from up north to all involved. May the irrational and misguided hatred in the hearts of those on both sides, someday come to pass.
Prayers from up north to all involved. May the irrational and misguided hatred in the hearts of those on both sides, someday come to pass.
Thank you. I wholeheartedly agree. After 9/11, this country came together - we were kinder and more accepting of one another for a period of time. But many things have happened since then and I place an enormous part of the blame for all of this divisiveness on the shoulders of those that have the ability to influence public opinions: politicians, the media, bloggers, and professors/teachers. They salivate over manipulating the young and/or ill informed. The throw out bait with regard to policies that are completely impractical or unsustainable just to fish people in and fuel their emotions. And they distort the truth. I can watch an event unfold with my eyes and then watch or read a variety of media sources only to see that the information has been distorted, twisted, and spun to fit a narrative. It's not an attempt to get to the truth. It's an attempt to say " See, I am right and you are wrong and you're an idiot if you don't think like I do." The 2 party system in the States may be irreparably damaged. The extremes are sadly running the show (and doing a hideously poor job of it). We need an independent third party that can act rationally and bring people together, not stubbornly dig heels in and let emotion take over. Sadly, everyone cannot win in a country of this size and with this much diversity. There will always be people that feel slighted, envious, victimized etc. whether it is warranted or not. We all just need to put our grown up pants on and deal with issues maturely, unselfishly, and rationally. It will never be perfect but it can certainly be better than it is.
Because he doesn't agree with you...
Because THEY are the reason this is the #1 news story today, and THEY give the nazi/skinhead/KKK loons a much bigger audience, and make them appear to be a much larger more prominent group than they really are. You had it right, just ignore them.
Wouldn't that be nice. Unfortunately, IMHO, we have wandered off of the long winding path to an aracial apolitical aethnic society, and now political, racial and ethnic identity, and the inherent differences they involve, are more pronounced than ever. I didn't vote for Obama but I still had great hope for what his Presidency could mean for the country, but it just went exactly in the opposite direction than I expected/hoped. I don't even know if a person exists out there who can remedy the ills that we have now.
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I believe those days are over. In all honesty, I would like to see two countries formed. No more filibustering, fighting over immigrants, which lives matter more, Supreme Court picks. Cable news would hate it.
Charlottesville is what happens when you normalize racism and street violence. Every normalization of extremism equally normalizes the extremism of the opposite side. A civil society depends on a consensus. ‘Racism is bad’ is an example of such a consensus. If you normalize black nationalism, you will get more white nationalism. If you normalize leftist street violence against Trump supporters, you will also get more street violence against leftists.
In the meantime, the Canadian PM hands over millions of dollars to a known terrorist. There are issues all over the world. Most Americans are not what you saw on TV. Most Americans go about their lives, working hard, taking care of their families and not sounding like complete baffoons the media focused on during Ferguson, Baltimore, and Virginia. These are not the norm. Most have opinions but most would not cause injury to others. There is plenty of hate to go around. It's not relegated to one group. All lives matter. All violence from all hate groups must stop.
Not necessarily the skinhead pricks are just spinning his words into propaganda, but most media is today
With what's going on in most major universities today, and as butt hurt as the Democratic party is that will not happen anytime soon.
