OT: Trump Truth

[twalsh]

I didn't follow this thread, nor do I get into political crap on sports boards. But for giggles I went to the home page of CNN and just did a ctrl+F and typed in trump and they have his name sixteen times just on their home page. Do they report any news other than Trump bashing LOL?

No, Jeff Zucker has basically made CNN a 24 hour Trump bashing network. They are obsessed with anything having to do with Trump. Even if there's nothing going on they will find some mundane issue and make it a story. Like Melania's shoe choice or her Holiday decorations.

It's the only news show at my morning gym. Awful.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Oh poor Donald Trump! How sad that a special prosecutor is appointed to investigate the allegations of one kind of crime and then goes on to find other crimes, which then serve as the basis for impeachment. Oh wait, I was thinking about the witch hunt against Bill Clinton.

The fact is that there were credible allegations of criminal activity involving those in the Trump Administration. As a result of the initial investigation, 5 former Trump Aides have pleaded guilty to various crimes. There have been countless other indictments and referrals to other prosecutors.

I suspect that when Mueller issues his report, there will not be enough evidence of collusion to warrant an indictment against Trump. That does not mean that there was no collusion but, rather, only that there is insufficient evidence to convict.

There will likely be other crimes that are indictable, whether they are against Trump, his kids, or his aides and benefactors is still to be determined. If, in fact, Trump is dirty, I want to know even if it's not being involved in collusion. This is not a Conservative v. Liberal issue nor is it a Republican v. Democrat issue. If any of our political leaders are dirty, I want to know about it and certainly before the next election.

There already is enough evidence of collusion . The DNC has dirt all over their hands.
Throughout this sham of an investigation do you believe the special counsel will follow up on that?

The other crimes you proudly boast about have nothing to do with president Trump, or collusion with Russia. Interesting I dont remember you being upset with the Obama administration colluding in foreign elections why is that?
Try as hard as you must to cone off unbiased you failed completely.

The Obama administration is dirty as hell with lieing to the FBI lieing to Congress playing politics by allowing his justice department to grant special favors in the investigates into HC email mess and yet not a peep
There are conflicts of interest throughout the special counsel , and if president trump was smart he would have his AG investigate the special counsel to assure us they were not willing politically panws of the Washington establishment before the next electikn

 

[deadirishpoet]

No, Jeff Zucker has basically made CNN a 24 hour Trump bashing network. They are obsessed with anything having to do with Trump. Even if there's nothing going on they will find some mundane issue and make it a story. Like Melania's shoe choice or her Holiday decorations.

It's the only news show at my morning gym. Awful.

The Hallmark channel has more viewership than CNN lol

 

[deadirishpoet]

hilarious - you Trumpites do nothing but bitch about Obama (term finished) and Hillary (lost the election), and then turn snowflake when somebody bitches about the sitting president...

It was Obama/Hillary that got Trump elected.
It not bitching when you see the glaring hypocrisy.

 

[deadirishpoet]

On Fox
Trump = 6
Clinton = 1

Well they can't put her on if she doesn't want to go.

 

[TOMMY_23]

NDDuck supports the illegal immigrant that killed a California cop Wednesday.

 

[thehellyousay]

It was Obama/Hillary that got Trump elected.
It not bitching when you see the glaring hypocrisy.

what hypocrisy? I didn't want Trump or Hillary...

 

[ThomasSowell]

The irony in the name while advocating for universal basic income
How is that 3 year "experiment" doing in Ontario
((Failed in two months))
Reminds me of that time the single payer loons in 3 bill bernie's all white state of Vermont attempted "single" "payer"
((Bankrupt before implementation))

 

[ThomasSowell]

There already is enough evidence of collusion . The DNC has dirt all over their hands.
Throughout this sham of an investigation do you believe the special counsel will follow up on that?

The other crimes you proudly boast about have nothing to do with president Trump, or collusion with Russia. Interesting I dont remember you being upset with the Obama administration colluding in foreign elections why is that?
Try as hard as you must to cone off unbiased you failed completely.

The Obama administration is dirty as hell with lieing to the FBI lieing to Congress playing politics by allowing his justice department to grant special favors in the investigates into HC email mess and yet not a peep
There are conflicts of interest throughout the special counsel , and if president trump was smart he would have his AG investigate the special counsel to assure us they were not willing politically panws of the Washington establishment before the next electikn

'Colluding with foreign elections'
You mean like ayatollah Hussein al-obama attempting to unseat the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED
Israeli Prime Minister while having his "press" basically engage in a defacto
Defence and Security Media Advisory Notice while posing with
Calypso louie "hitler was a very great man" farrakhan

 

[Leahylads]

The only wall comrade Trumpsky is getting are the ones in his prison when he is tried and convicted after he is impeached.

 

[ThomasSowell]

The only wall comrade Trumpsky is getting are the ones in his prison when he is tried and convicted after he is impeached.

Keep holding breath
enemy combatant

 

[TOMMY_23]

The only wall comrade Trumpsky is getting are the ones in his prison when he is tried and convicted after he is impeached.

Are you from Canada? You seem really excited for the fall of the USA.

 

[chitown sot]

hilarious - you Trumpites do nothing but bitch about Obama (term finished) and Hillary (lost the election), and then turn snowflake when somebody bitches about the sitting president...

The only snowflakes are the libbies in this Country

 

[Irish Duck]

We've seen what a democratic controlled house did with the banking system and healthcare causing the meltdown of healthcare and trying the hands of banks forcing them to give loans to people who couldnt make the payments.


You chose not to see the accomplishment of this administration did with Congress I guess the recent justice reform was no big deal? Banning bump stocks?
Job creation at an all time high unemployment at an all time low
Clamping down on Russia more then any ongress in recent time with president Trump's blessing
The Democrats intentionally didn't work with the president. They sent the precedent and try not to forget the Senate and the power they hold

Don't get me wrong the never Trumpers in Congress did themselves no favors and lost their seats and McCain won't be a stumbling block anymore. Good bye Flake.

We will see if this democratic Congress will work with the president much like the Republican Congress did with president Clinton but my guess is no. Your party have actual socialist that are looking to dismantle the constitution how do them Democrats intend to keep them under control?

I listen to alot of Democrats screaming the 10th amendment. .we will see if they truly believe that now.

DIP, why reference the republican Congress working with Clinton but not what it did with Obama? Mitch M. specifically said when he first took over as Speaker was that the job of that Congress was to ensure that Obama wouldn't get re-elected. How is that responsible? How is right?

I don't expect the House to work with Trump anymore than McConnell's House worked with Obama. It is a shitshow and will continue to be so.

Certainly the Dems have ultra-liberals on their side just like the GOP has ultra-conservatives on their side. I'm talking specifically about idiots like Ted Nugent, Alex Jones, and the Q'Anon whackjobs. The problems is that moderates in both parties can't get elected or re-elected without the support of the extremists.

 

[twalsh]

Are you from Canada? You seem really excited for the fall of the USA.

He's from Northern California. Basically the same thing.

 

[ThomasSowell]

DIP, why reference the republican Congress working with Clinton but not what it did with Obama? Mitch M. specifically said when he first took over as Speaker was that the job of that Congress was to ensure that Obama wouldn't get re-elected. How is that responsible? How is right?

I don't expect the House to work with Trump anymore than McConnell's House worked with Obama. It is a shitshow and will continue to be so.

Certainly the Dems have ultra-liberals on their side just like the GOP has ultra-conservatives on their side. I'm talking specifically about idiots like Ted Nugent, Alex Jones, and the Q'Anon whackjobs. The problems is that moderates in both parties can't get elected or re-elected without the support of the extremists.

"Congress not working with ayatollah hussein al-obama..."

Let us not forget ayatollah Hussein was seen as an extremist within his own party based on the fact the democratic party as a collective whole didn't even vote in the double digits for his three budgetary outlines

As for Ted and Alex
Yeah they're entertainers not elected officials so apples are not oranges

Deep state argument
Not sure if you know this but
It was a leftist journalist named glenn greenwald that coined the term deep state with regards to President Donald Trump and the obstruction he has and will continue to encounter

The title of the article by glenn
THE DEEP STATE GOES TO WAR WITH PRESIDENT-ELECT, USING UNVERIFIED CLAIMS, AS DEMOCRATS CHEER
Jan.11, 2017
It can be found on the leftist blog the intercept
For Future Reference

 

[deadirishpoet]

DIP, why reference the republican Congress working with Clinton but not what it did with Obama? Mitch M. specifically said when he first took over as Speaker was that the job of that Congress was to ensure that Obama wouldn't get re-elected. How is that responsible? How is right?

I don't expect the House to work with Trump anymore than McConnell's House worked with Obama. It is a shitshow and will continue to be so.

Certainly the Dems have ultra-liberals on their side just like the GOP has ultra-conservatives on their side. I'm talking specifically about idiots like Ted Nugent, Alex Jones, and the Q'Anon whackjobs. The problems is that moderates in both parties can't get elected or re-elected without the support of the extremists.

President Clinton understood he needed to work with the Congress to get things done president Obama's administration was advised and intentionally did not work with Congress then implemented his pen and phone agenda all the while senting his DOJ up to ensure a Hillary Clinton victory to protect his executive orders.

President Trump has reached out to the democratic wing in the Congress and Senate, but they were so butt hurt and refused to take up position they once touted as right.

The moderates?

Do you mean the Washington establishment jokers? They had their chance!
Term limits need to ge enforced

Ted Nugent and Alex Jones do not implement policies but idiots like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of the new Democrats do.

 

[deadirishpoet]

"Congress not working with ayatollah hussein al-obama..."

Let us not forget ayatollah Hussein was seen as an extremist within his own party based on the fact the democratic party as a collective whole didn't even vote in the double digits for his three budgetary outlines

As for Ted and Alex
Yeah they're entertainers not elected officials so apples are not oranges

Deep state argument
Not sure if you know this but
It was a leftist journalist named glenn greenwald that coined the term deep state with regards to President Donald Trump and the obstruction he has and will continue to encounter

The title of the article by glenn
THE DEEP STATE GOES TO WAR WITH PRESIDENT-ELECT, USING UNVERIFIED CLAIMS, AS DEMOCRATS CHEER
Jan.11, 2017
It can be found on the leftist blog the intercept
For Future Reference

I agree with most of your post, but to single out president Obama in that manner only muddies the water
I know there are those who refer to president Trump in unflattering manner but tit takes away points being made

 

[deadirishpoet]

'Colluding with foreign elections'
You mean like ayatollah Hussein al-obama attempting to unseat the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED
Israeli Prime Minister while having his "press" basically engage in a defacto
Defence and Security Media Advisory Notice while posing with
Calypso louie "hitler was a very great man" farrakhan

That's exactly what I mean and not a peep about how wrong that was

 

[Irish Duck]

President Clinton understood he needed to work with the Congress to get things done president Obama's administration was advised and intentionally did not work with Congress then implemented his pen and phone agenda all the while senting his DOJ up to ensure a Hillary Clinton victory to protect his executive orders.

President Trump has reached out to the democratic wing in the Congress and Senate, but they were so butt hurt and refused to take up position they once touted as right.

The moderates?

Do you mean the Washington establishment jokers? They had their chance!
Term limits need to ge enforced

Ted Nugent and Alex Jones do not implement policies but idiots like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of the new Democrats do.

DIP, I don't know why you constantly disappoint me. I should realize that by now you have drunk the Kool-Aid and can't understand that reasonable minds can disagree. You don't even bother recognizing McConnell's statement for what it was - crass politics over governing. I don't agree with everything that Ocasio-Cortez says but won't label her an idiot. She is just very progressive. I won't brand Rand Paul an idiot, he just very conservative/libertarian.

There are more than enough idiots on both sides of the aisle but the only idiots who can't understand that people can disagree without being evil or unAmerican.

 

[twalsh]

DIP, I don't agree with everything that Ocasio-Cortez says but won't label her an idiot. She is just very progressive.

I don't know Duck, she says some off the wall inane things. If she's not young, female, Hispanic, and attractive, do you think she's going to Congress? She's like the poster child for identity politics.

 

[chitown sot]

Ocasio-Cortez is dumber than a box of rocks. And yes, she is an idiot.

 

[Irish Duck]

I don't know Duck, she says some off the wall inane things. If she's not young, female, Hispanic, and attractive, do you think she's going to Congress? She's like the poster child for identity politics.

Yeah but that's like saying if Trump wasn't brash, rich, and a celebrity, do you think he ever would have gotten elected?

Politics is an ugly game and you have to sell your soul in order to get elected. There are very, very few politicians who will vote as they believe as opposed to what their benefactors demand and what is necessary to get reelected. John McCain is one of the few that voted as he believed. I disagreed with him on a lot of issues but respected his service and his patriotism. I respected the fact that he refused to always follow the party line. I wish there were a few more Dems like that.

The pendulum will continue to sway. The dems controlled both the Congress and the WH during Obama's 1st 2 years and accomplished almost nothing. The GOP controlled both Congress and the WH during Trump's 1st 2 years and accomplished some things but not nearly what they hoped for. The House will now do its best to obstruct Trump from passing any of his goals. I'm not saying that it is right but, unfortunately, that is just the way it works these days.

More importantly for the nation is what happens with the Mueller investigation. I suspect that his report will not result in any indictments against Trump directly (I know, current policy is that a sitting POTUS can't be indicted) but that more family members and aides will be indicted. I suspect that Trump will have a meltdown if Ivanka, Don Jr. and Kushner are indicted. I suspect that Trump supporters will continue to claim that this is all a witch hunt but if it ends in criminal convictions, that position becomes hard to maintain.

We live in an interesting world. A friend recently recommended that I read Plato, something I hadn't done in 40+ years. What struck me is that in his Apology, he had Socrates questioning why he was considered the wisest person in the land. Socrates spoke about how there were others who knew much more than he did about a wide range of issues. He finally acknowledged that his wisdom came from the fact that he understood that he wasn't the smartest guy in the room. He knew that he didn't know everything.

While I would never suggest that I am as wise as Plato or Socrates, I do recognize that there are others that are much smarter than me and that I don't know everything. I don't know what Mueller knows and know that I'm not as smart as he is. I don't know what Trump knows. Hell, I don't even know what the voters will do in '20. It will be very interesting to watch however. Right now, I'm just hoping for an Irish win over Clemson tomorrow.

 

[deadirishpoet]

DIP, I don't know why you constantly disappoint me. I should realize that by now you have drunk the Kool-Aid and can't understand that reasonable minds can disagree. You don't even bother recognizing McConnell's statement for what it was - crass politics over governing. I don't agree with everything that Ocasio-Cortez says but won't label her an idiot. She is just very progressive. I won't brand Rand Paul an idiot, he just very conservative/libertarian.

There are more than enough idiots on both sides of the aisle but the only idiots who can't understand that people can disagree without being evil or unAmerican.

How do i demonstrate I cant be reasonable?I get the facts I presented are problematic for you.
It's hard to explain away dispite how much CNN you watch.

If president Obama wanted to work with Congress I'm sure there would of been away but his globe aspirations were going to cost the US more than it will get in return.
President Trump is trying to correct the imbalance in trade not enhance for starters
I guess the prison reform means little.
Getting out of Syria
Bump stock banned.
Unemployment........well I guess you already know this.
The differences between Paul and Cortez are glaring
Rand Paul understands and works within the boundaries of the constitution
Cortez wants to dismantle it that's not progressive that socialism
I believe you're smart enough to understand the differences between the two


I dont know what koolaid you speak about?
If you are speaking about the sham investigation......I afraid there is more than evidence proving that. Prominent Democrats have laid out facts to prove it's a sham
President Trump's DOJ needs to look into the actions of the DOJ and the manner of how it was put together and conducted.

 

[twalsh]

Yeah but that's like saying if Trump wasn't brash, rich, and a celebrity, do you think he ever would have gotten elected?

Politics is an ugly game and you have to sell your soul in order to get elected. There are very, very few politicians who will vote as they believe as opposed to what their benefactors demand and what is necessary to get reelected. John McCain is one of the few that voted as he believed. I disagreed with him on a lot of issues but respected his service and his patriotism. I respected the fact that he refused to always follow the party line. I wish there were a few more Dems like that.

The pendulum will continue to sway. The dems controlled both the Congress and the WH during Obama's 1st 2 years and accomplished almost nothing. The GOP controlled both Congress and the WH during Trump's 1st 2 years and accomplished some things but not nearly what they hoped for. The House will now do its best to obstruct Trump from passing any of his goals. I'm not saying that it is right but, unfortunately, that is just the way it works these days.

More importantly for the nation is what happens with the Mueller investigation. I suspect that his report will not result in any indictments against Trump directly (I know, current policy is that a sitting POTUS can't be indicted) but that more family members and aides will be indicted. I suspect that Trump will have a meltdown if Ivanka, Don Jr. and Kushner are indicted. I suspect that Trump supporters will continue to claim that this is all a witch hunt but if it ends in criminal convictions, that position becomes hard to maintain.

We live in an interesting world. A friend recently recommended that I read Plato, something I hadn't done in 40+ years. What struck me is that in his Apology, he had Socrates questioning why he was considered the wisest person in the land. Socrates spoke about how there were others who knew much more than he did about a wide range of issues. He finally acknowledged that his wisdom came from the fact that he understood that he wasn't the smartest guy in the room. He knew that he didn't know everything.

While I would never suggest that I am as wise as Plato or Socrates, I do recognize that there are others that are much smarter than me and that I don't know everything. I don't know what Mueller knows and know that I'm not as smart as he is. I don't know what Trump knows. Hell, I don't even know what the voters will do in '20. It will be very interesting to watch however. Right now, I'm just hoping for an Irish win over Clemson tomorrow.

Same thing in the first two years of the Clinton administration. Dems had everything, accomplished nothing. To a large degree due to so much emotional investment in Hillary's aborted healthcare reform which neither side really wanted.

 

[Irish Duck]

How do i demonstrate I cant be reasonable?I get the facts I presented are problematic for you.
It's hard to explain away dispite how much CNN you watch.

If president Obama wanted to work with Congress I'm sure there would of been away but his globe aspirations were going to cost the US more than it will get in return.
President Trump is trying to correct the imbalance in trade not enhance for starters
I guess the prison reform means little.
Getting out of Syria
Bump stock banned.
Unemployment........well I guess you already know this.
The differences between Paul and Cortez are glaring
Rand Paul understands and works within the boundaries of the constitution
Cortez wants to dismantle it that's not progressive that socialism
I believe you're smart enough to understand the differences between the two


I dont know what koolaid you speak about?
If you are speaking about the sham investigation......I afraid there is more than evidence proving that. Prominent Democrats have laid out facts to prove it's a sham
President Trump's DOJ needs to look into the actions of the DOJ and the manner of how it was put together and conducted.

How can the investigation be a sham if it has already resulted in multiple convictions? DIP, you are a hardcore Republican but can't seem to recognize the demons in your own closet. Can we agree that Trump has a problem with telling the truth? That would seem to be a pretty easy thing to agree upon without having to digress to other politicians. Can we agree on that?

Can we agree that there is a legitimate dispute as to the wisdom of getting out of Syria? Personally I like the decision but recognize that we are screwing over our Kurdish allies. This could have a long term effect in trying to get local militias to fight on our side if they fear that we'll desert them on a whim. Can we at least agree that there is at least a reasonable basis for questioning Trump's decision on this?

By the way, I've yet to talk to anyone who doesn't want to amend the Constitution. While it has some solid "bones," it is outdated. I'm all for term limits but I'm also in favor of changing a Representative's term from 2 years to 4 years so that we can try and avoid having them constantly running for reelection. I'm for overturning the Citizens United case which might only be done through Constitutional amendment. I'm for clarifying the 2nd Amendment as well as addressing the Right to Privacy (which is not currently included in the Constitution).

The fact that Cortez wants to change the Constitution is not a bad thing. How she wants to change it might be but not the mere fact that she wants to change it.

I suspect that you and I agree on certain issues (limited government, fiscal responsibility, etc.) while disagreeing on other issues (immigration, taxation, guns). Its too bad that we can't have an intelligent conversation about these issues but this isn't the right forum for that. I would, however, be interested in your opinions as to (a) Trump's difficulty with the truth and (b) whether there can be a legitimate dispute as to the wisdom of removing our troops from Syria.

 

[Pennick4]

DIP, I don't know why you constantly disappoint me. I should realize that by now you have drunk the Kool-Aid and can't understand that reasonable minds can disagree. You don't even bother recognizing McConnell's statement for what it was - crass politics over governing. I don't agree with everything that Ocasio-Cortez says but won't label her an idiot. She is just very progressive. I won't brand Rand Paul an idiot, he just very conservative/libertarian.

There are more than enough idiots on both sides of the aisle but the only idiots who can't understand that people can disagree without being evil or unAmerican.

Ocasio Cortez is definitely an idiot.

 

[Irish Duck]

Ocasio Cortez is definitely an idiot.

Nice insightful and intelligent contribution to the conversation. Thanks for that, Pennick.

 

[twalsh]

How can the investigation be a sham if it has already resulted in multiple convictions? DIP, you are a hardcore Republican but can't seem to recognize the demons in your own closet. Can we agree that Trump has a problem with telling the truth? That would seem to be a pretty easy thing to agree upon without having to digress to other politicians. Can we agree on that?

Can we agree that there is a legitimate dispute as to the wisdom of getting out of Syria? Personally I like the decision but recognize that we are screwing over our Kurdish allies. This could have a long term effect in trying to get local militias to fight on our side if they fear that we'll desert them on a whim. Can we at least agree that there is at least a reasonable basis for questioning Trump's decision on this?

By the way, I've yet to talk to anyone who doesn't want to amend the Constitution. While it has some solid "bones," it is outdated. I'm all for term limits but I'm also in favor of changing a Representative's term from 2 years to 4 years so that we can try and avoid having them constantly running for reelection. I'm for overturning the Citizens United case which might only be done through Constitutional amendment. I'm for clarifying the 2nd Amendment as well as addressing the Right to Privacy (which is not currently included in the Constitution).

The fact that Cortez wants to change the Constitution is not a bad thing. How she wants to change it might be but not the mere fact that she wants to change it.

I suspect that you and I agree on certain issues (limited government, fiscal responsibility, etc.) while disagreeing on other issues (immigration, taxation, guns). Its too bad that we can't have an intelligent conversation about these issues but this isn't the right forum for that. I would, however, be interested in your opinions as to (a) Trump's difficulty with the truth and (b) whether there can be a legitimate dispute as to the wisdom of removing our troops from Syria.

Without the FBI falsely fabricating the justification for the investigation, there is no investigation. And while, in their zeal to get someone, anyone, to turn on Trump they have uncovered wrong-doing, they still haven’t gotten anything to indicate collusion with the Russians, which was the intention of the investigation. So you could argue either way. It’s legitimate because it’s uncovered wrongdoing, it’s a sham because the whole thing is based on a falsehood, and after almost two years there no evidence of the original potential charge which was the basis for the investigation.

 

[Pennick4]

Nice insightful and intelligent contribution to the conversation. Thanks for that, Pennick.

Every time she opens her mouth she spews nonsense She should lead your party!

 

[deadirishpoet]

How can the investigation be a sham if it has already resulted in multiple convictions? DIP, you are a hardcore Republican but can't seem to recognize the demons in your own closet. Can we agree that Trump has a problem with telling the truth? That would seem to be a pretty easy thing to agree upon without having to digress to other politicians. Can we agree on that?

Can we agree that there is a legitimate dispute as to the wisdom of getting out of Syria? Personally I like the decision but recognize that we are screwing over our Kurdish allies. This could have a long term effect in trying to get local militias to fight on our side if they fear that we'll desert them on a whim. Can we at least agree that there is at least a reasonable basis for questioning Trump's decision on this?

By the way, I've yet to talk to anyone who doesn't want to amend the Constitution. While it has some solid "bones," it is outdated. I'm all for term limits but I'm also in favor of changing a Representative's term from 2 years to 4 years so that we can try and avoid having them constantly running for reelection. I'm for overturning the Citizens United case which might only be done through Constitutional amendment. I'm for clarifying the 2nd Amendment as well as addressing the Right to Privacy (which is not currently included in the Constitution).

The fact that Cortez wants to change the Constitution is not a bad thing. How she wants to change it might be but not the mere fact that she wants to change it.

I suspect that you and I agree on certain issues (limited government, fiscal responsibility, etc.) while disagreeing on other issues (immigration, taxation, guns). Its too bad that we can't have an intelligent conversation about these issues but this isn't the right forum for that. I would, however, be interested in your opinions as to (a) Trump's difficulty with the truth and (b) whether there can be a legitimate dispute as to the wisdom of removing our troops from Syria.

The special counsel mandate was Russian collusion.
Not lieing to the FBI/Congress about unrelated things all the while the precedent set by the Obama administration personnel by doing those exact things without a fine being levied is unsettling.
It wiill be extremely interesting to see how many convictions there will be if the Trump administration DOJ investigates the Mueller special counsel and those who implemented in starting it.

I am a constitutional conservative which the majority of Republican in both house are not. For those whose dream of altering the constitution will be waiting til you death. Those states would have a better chance of secession.

Yes trump does embellish extremely but to criticize those embellishments yet not want to compare it to deceiving the American what the IRS is doing' or staging gun running operation to try to reform gun control then lieing about it, or spying on millions of Americans with PRISM and denying it, and this aside form "keeping your doctor"

Now in Syria.
The Kurds must be protected and i believe they will not be hung out to dry. Israel will handle the Iranians, with technological warfare with drones /ect the Trump policy of crippling Russia will keep them in check

The US biggest threat is China and resources need to be focused there.

As far as immigration until law makers in force the laws on the book all the while amending those there will be no immigration reform because lawmakers will just not in force those....why would they?

 

[Riverside Irish]

After reading Dip shits response is that trumpers are very good at deflection and whatabouts. Pretty evident that they can't defend a president that is completely compromised,and his actions and his associates are under extreme investigation which many have been found guilty.The reality is they put party before common sense. It's a shame.

 

[Telx1]

He's from Northern California. Basically the same thing.

Not so! Canada is much more conservative and pragmatic.

 

[deadirishpoet]

After reading Dip shits response is that trumpers are very good at deflection and whatabouts. Pretty evident that they can't defend a president that is completely compromised,and his actions and his associates are under extreme investigation which many have been found guilty.The reality is they put party before common sense. It's a shame.

Extreme investigation for Russia collusion.
No convictions so exactly how is he compromised?
Common sense tells you this is a sham investigation leaving the left to go father off the depend

You seem to forget the whataboutism were precedence set by the pervious administration but keep your head in the sand

 

[Riverside Irish]

Dip, wait until Mueller presents his case then we will see. You sound like Sean hannity. Fox news watchers are less informed than people who watch no news at all.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Dip, wait until Mueller presents his case then we will see. You sound like Sean hannity. Fox news watchers are less informed than people who watch no news at all.

As should you though you have yet to mention how president Trump is compromised?

Fox news is the most watch news and those viewers are uninformed all the while all of the smart kids are watching CNN MSNBC.....got it thanks

Btw I dont watch Hannity I'm more of a Tucker guy

 

[twalsh]

After reading Dip shits response is that trumpers are very good at deflection and whatabouts. Pretty evident that they can't defend a president that is completely compromised,and his actions and his associates are under extreme investigation which many have been found guilty.The reality is they put party before common sense. It's a shame.

How exactly is Trump compromised? Compromised by who?

 

[twalsh]

As should you

Fox news this th he most watch news and those viewers are uninformed all the while all of th he smart kids are watching CNN MSNBC.....got it thanks

Btw I dont watch Hannity I'm more of a Tucker guy

I'd swear only libs watch Hannity. I don't know anyone who watches him.

 

[Patrirish]

hilarious - you Trumpites do nothing but bitch about Obama (term finished) and Hillary (lost the election), and then turn snowflake when somebody bitches about the sitting president...

It’s only fitting since Obama bitched and blamed Bush for everything for 6 plus years of his Presidency

 

[deadirishpoet]

I'd swear only libs watch Hannity. I don't know anyone who watches him.

Neither do I lol