You are just being over emotional and whiny because you were "like" 1000% wrong.
Make the call to Mike Denbrock…
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That team was also completely decimated by injuries by the end of the season. It didn't have enough depth to be able to survive that.
Seriously, go back and track the injuries and tell me with a straight face that ND had enough depth to compete for a national championship. Pre-season we lost CB Shaun Crawford (I don't remember if he was starter or not, but he was expected to play) and starting nose tackle Jarron Jones for the year. Starting tailback Folsten in first quarter of opener out for the year; starting QB Zaire second or third game lost for the year; TE Durham Smythe lost for year in same game. C.J. Prosise, converted slot, starting at tailback, lost time to a concussion and later was out with ankle sprain. CB Keivare Russell stress fracture in leg late in season, out for rest of year. Sheldon Day had a bum shoulder at the end, Jone's backup Daniel Cage was out late in the year for awhile. Drew Tranquill tore ACL celebrating a play in Georgia Tech game. Jaylon Smith suffered the freak knee injury late in first half against Ohio State in bowl game.
And those are just the ones I or found with a quick Google search. The ND student magazine The Scholastic had an article where they said the 127th Notre Dame football team would be best remembered for its 127 injuries.
Van Gorder sucked, but that team was snake-bitten with injuries. By the second half of the Ohio State bowl game they were just throwing guys into the lineup.
Typical all or nothing response from a simpleton.
What sense does it make to hire a climber who climbs to the next position next year or the year after?
Yes that's what I'm telling you.
Kizer was an upgrade over Zaire imo
Prosise was an upgrade over Folston imo
Smythe played against OSU so not lost for the year
I'm not counting the Jaylon because that was in the last game of the year and we would be playing in the Playoff then. So that one was silly too include
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Any really good coordinator three years max is the typical shelf life.
They they get promoted.
We need stability in the OC job . 3 OCs in 3yrs. We needed an experienced quality OC hire with recruiting chops and a team player staff wise. Denbrock checks all the boxes. He loves ND and he's likely to stick around for at least 3 -4 yrs. A younger OC would be quite likely to be gone in 2 yrs if not sooner. Denbrock is a proven recruiter with contacts all over the country. Particularly CA, and now SEC country. He's a plus recruiter and an improvement over Parker in recruiting. With his recent success at LSU and Cincinnati it should help ND attract high level offensive skill players [ qbs / wrs] to ND . To build off the 24 O class high level talent haul.
Denbrock was an excellent hire and a no Brainer imo
Anybody know what kind of recruiter denbrock is? the fact that he helped develop daniels at LSU has to carry some cache on the recruiting trail. I just really hope at 60 years old or whatever, he's willing to grind on the recruiting trail and go to war with the other blue bloods for the nations best talent
He was a very good recruiter at Notre Dame. Hes not going to be asked to recruit like crazy as the OC but he probably will
May want to spellcheck your post to ensure you’re using the proper wording. Keep in mind, Denbrock had Jayden Daniels. The most dynamic player in the country. A player who could mask the deficiencies of even the biggest playing calling mental midgets, such as yourself. I don’t love the hire, but I have zero choice to support it. So, we’ll see how it goes…
And I believe Kelly went there because he thought it would be easier to get better football players
Saban doesn't need to recruit, his resume of making his players wealthy beyond belief through guaranteed NFL dollars and through world class player development says it all. Saban basically has first dibs on whatever prospects he likes at this point across the board at nearly every position. He may be the best football coach in the history of the sport (unique situation Alabama has over there at this point).
As much as I am a fan of Denbrock's unique rise to OC over the course of a 50 year coaching career, where ND currently is organizationally, i just think they need to make the type of impact hires that really move the needle forward. ND is in a bad spot, we need someone willing to grind us forward to a whole other level, someone who really makes an impact on the brand so that we can actually compete with the teams on the recruiting trail who are winning the biggest games.
Is Denbrock that guy? maybe the fact that he helped develop LSUs offense and Daniels specifically will help to make a really compelling message on the recruiting trail but i just don't personally see Denbrock being the guy to help gut us over the really big hump we've been trying to get over
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Typical. I wouldn't say that a 60-year-old OC in his 3rd stint with a team is "typical."
Starting QB was just the beginning. Amazing that they were able to win as many games as they did. The job Kelly did with Kizer, it had me thinking that he really was the coach who could bring a natty to South Bend. After 2016 and having to tear it all down to build it back up, looking back I think it kind of broke Kelly of any competitive fire he had. That's really when he became just a CEO over the operation.
Isn’t he known as being a great recruiter? I think you have the wrong guy in mind on your comments.
Some people love Notre Dame. If you get it you get it. If you don’t, well, you don’t.
He doesn’t know he is clueless. Denbrock was a beast recruiting on the West Coast. This guy is the highest level of ignorance. That’s the level where you don’t even know, what you don’t know.
You literally cannot get a better combination of experience, success, recruiting. Who the hell else would be better than this guy? Texas A&M wanted him and they are the preeminent do whatever it takes program.
Agreed that Van Gorder was bad, but you are always just plain dismissive of anyone who has a different opinion than you. That team was "so loaded" that Joe Schmidt was still starting at middle linebacker. I'm not going to try to figure out how to get a game-by-game list of injuries, but that team was as snakebitten as any I've ever seen, but since it has been decreed by the almighty Golson 5, it should have won the national championship. Alright, already.
And as far as worst defensive coaches at ND, Gary Darnell was pretty bad, too.
I didn't say the should have won. I said that team had the best chance to compete for a NC. They were loaded. Put Elko, Freeman, Lea as DC and that team makes the Playoffs at the least
They didnt lose to Stanford on the last game of the year because of damn injuries. Do you remember the game? They lost because the DC was the worst in ND history
When you have this on the line of scrimmages, you can compete with anyone
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We played the National runner up at their place and lost by 2 points. That team was close
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We played the National runner up at their place and lost by 2 points. That team was close
There is a certain irony in you blaming the team's failure to play for the NC on the defensive coordinator and then citing the Clemson game, where we lost by 2, no fault of the defense. You sound like people who blame Pete Bercich for the loss to BC in '93.
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