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Game day thread. Sun bowl

I am? Or I’m pointing out that we have wide receivers open all over the field? And yes, their defense is depleted. We are playing well and controlling the game. A quality quarterback though and the game is over. That’s all I’m saying. Appreciate Steve for his two years here and wish him the best
They aren't though. Not on any replay they showed where we had an incomplete.

He missed 1 pass to Raridon

You're wrong
 
I guess winning this game would be nice. But does winning the Frosted Flakes bowl really give a program momentum?
 
I am? Or I’m pointing out that we have wide receivers open all over the field? And yes, their defense is depleted. We are playing well and controlling the game. A quality quarterback though and the game is over. That’s all I’m saying. Appreciate Steve for his two years here and wish him the best
You are the exact poster that have zero knowledge of football. you expect every play to be successful, and when it's not, you cry about replacing players. Go study the sport before you make comments like this. what a joke.

Leonard will start next season, but Angeli is 7-9, 121 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and you are b1tching. What a tool.
 
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You are the exact poster that have zero knowledge of football. you expect every play to be successful, and when it's not, you cry about replacing players. Go study the sport before you make comments like this. what a joke.

Leonard will start next season, but Angeli is 7-9, 121 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and you are b1tching. What a tool.
Gotta agree
 
That was an utterly dominant first half despite only a 14 point lead. They could not sustain drives and we were getting enormous push on the offensive line. I expect a complete blowout in the second half.

I was honestly very surprised that the opening line of us at -7.5 dropped to 6.5 and then 6 in some places, which was really confusing because I’m not sure why money was coming in on Oregon State—we may have missing players, but they have more missing players including the very best players that made an impact and why they had such a good season this year.
 
You are the exact poster that have zero knowledge of football. you expect every play to be successful, and when it's not, you cry about replacing players. Go study the sport before you make comments like this. what a joke.

Leonard will start next season, but Angeli is 7-9, 121 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and you are b1tching. What a tool.
If you only knew, loser. What year did you graduate from ND btw?
 
If you only knew, loser. What year did you graduate from ND btw?
When did you graduate? in 24? You are a dinosaur. Didn't realize being a graduate of ND translates to football knowledge. 😂 Again, go study the game.
 
I was honestly very surprised that the opening line of us at -7.5 dropped to 6.5 and then 6 in some places, which was really confusing because I’m not sure why money was coming in on Oregon State—we may have missing players, but they have more missing players including the very best players that made an impact and why they had such a good season this year.
Agreed. F+ thinks ND is #10 to OSUs #16 with full regular season rosters. Then you take out all of OSUs best players (a roster nowhere near as deep as NDs) and I think a bet for ND to beat the spread would have been a good one coming into this game. Easy to say with hindsight but I digress
 
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Agreed. F+ thinks ND is #10 to OSUs #16 with full regular season rosters. Then you take out all of OSUs best players (a roster nowhere near as deep as NDs) and I think a bet for ND to beat the spread would have been a good one coming into this game. Easy to say with hindsight but I digress
No one cares about F+. It's a garbage system. Any system that ranks 2 loss Oregon and Penn Stare teams ahead of Alabama, Texas, and FSU is a joke.

Imagine if the CFP used F+ to place the top 4, you would have
Michigan vs Ohio State
Oregon vs Georgia

Only 1 conference champion in that group.
 
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I guess winning this game would be nice. But does winning the Frosted Flakes bowl really give a program momentum?
“Momentum” here is a subjective term, so not sure how you want to quantify this. One of the steppingstones to becoming a contending power is that you handily defeat teams that have less talent than you do, and that you do so with regularity. So, this beating that we are putting on Oregon State currently does that, even though it is marred by the fact that Oregon State is missing its best players and its coach.

But to me, this game is emblematic of what we did throughout the season, i.e., control games from start to finish for the most part. You need to be doing that before you can get to the next stage which is that you have a legitimate chance to beat every team on every field, e.g., UGA, Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson in the past, Florida State, in the past, Miami in the past, Notre Dame, under Lou Holtz, etc.
 
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You are the exact poster that have zero knowledge of football. you expect every play to be successful, and when it's not, you cry about replacing players. Go study the sport before you make comments like this. what a joke.

Leonard will start next season, but Angeli is 7-9, 121 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and you are b1tching. What a tool.
Steve Angeli is good enough to start in 2025 if he stays.
 
During the halftime show they used words like "brilliant!" to describe Angeli's first half performance. I'm wondering if he's playing his way into a QB competition if he finishes with 300 yards and 5 incompletions
 
Steve Angeli is good enough to start in 2025 if he stays.
Definitely good enough. But can be hold off Minchey and Carr talents. I'm not sure

But if Riley went down in 24 I wouldn't panic if Angeli had to play

Hes a solid player
 
I am? Or I’m pointing out that we have wide receivers open all over the field? And yes, their defense is depleted. We are playing well and controlling the game. A quality quarterback though and the game is over. That’s all I’m saying. Appreciate Steve for his two years here and wish him the best
Not true. A lot of their defenders are playing.
 
No one cares about F+. It's a garbage system.
It’s always interesting to me how people on this board respect Las Vegas and its betting spreads, but so ignorantly dismiss the only publicly available free system that takes into account account every snap played by every team while disregarding garbage time and adjusting for opponent strength and luck. Vegas and other betting sites are using models very similar to F+ to set those opening lines. I know this as someone who bets on sports regularly and notices the similarities..

I do not know what field most of you are in, but granular analytics data informed just about every decision by just about every multinational company, and by just about every professional sporting team.

If you take a look at the opening spreads for games played on neutral fields, and you look at the F+ rankings, the opening line spreads closely match how teams are ranked in the F+ system as long as there are no major injuries or any other drastic changes. A lot of people were probably surprised that Texas was favored over Washington, but granular data models (like F+) have Texas as a better team over the course of every snap played.
 
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Oregon beat them 31-7. If we want to take a step up, we need to move the ball.
And they lost to Washington at the very end by 2pts. Wash is in the CFP. The last two games were against top 10 teams Oregon and Wash. Can’t always cherry pic a single game.
 
The sacks he took were bad. When hes a lot of time or people open hes been fine.
One sack was bad, the other he had no chance. He's playing well and yet people on this board still complain. Just laughable these know nothing keyboard jockeys; laughable
 
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Steve Angeli is good enough to start in 2025 if he stays.
He doesn't have the strongest arm, but he makes good decisions and is pretty accurate. However, Minchey and Carr both have more talent.
 
It’s always interesting to me how people on this board respect Las Vegas and its betting spreads, but so ignorantly dismiss the only publicly available free system that takes into account account every snap played by every team while disregarding garbage time and adjusting for opponent strength and luck. Vegas and other betting sites are using models very similar to F+ to set those opening lines. I know this as someone who bets on sports regularly and notices the similarities..

I do not know what field most of you are in, but granular analytics data informed just about every decision by just about every multinational company, and by just about every professional sporting team.

If you take a look at the opening spreads for games played on neutral fields, and you look at the F+ rankings, the opening line spreads closely match how teams are ranked in the F+ system as long as there are no major injuries or any other drastic changes. A lot of people were probably surprised that Texas was favored over Washington, but granular data models (like F+) have Texas as a better team over the course of every snap played.
Because we look at some of their rankings and just laugh and laugh and laugh.

It's the worst ranking system I've personally seen
 
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For what it is worth. This defense has s basically what ND will have next year minus a player or two unless a true freshman bows up or ND gets somebody in the transfer portal. Sneed looks good and the Duke transfer on the DL should replace Baptist. I do not know about the rest of them
 
It’s always interesting to me how people on this board respect Las Vegas and its betting spreads, but so ignorantly dismiss the only publicly available free system that takes into account account every snap played by every team while disregarding garbage time and adjusting for opponent strength and luck. Vegas and other betting sites are using models very similar to F+ to set those opening lines. I know this as someone who bets on sports regularly and notices the similarities..

I do not know what field most of you are in, but granular analytics data informed just about every decision by just about every multinational company, and by just about every professional sporting team.

If you take a look at the opening spreads for games played on neutral fields, and you look at the F+ rankings, the opening line spreads closely match how teams are ranked in the F+ system as long as there are no major injuries or any other drastic changes. A lot of people were probably surprised that Texas was favored over Washington, but granular data models (like F+) have Texas as a better team over the course of every snap played.
You do realize Vegas doesn't rank teams. Also please explain to me how Oregon is ranked #2 after they had 2 cracks at Washington and lost both.Also PSU ranked 5th with losses to both OSU and Michigan.

Explain to me how 2 loss Oregon is ranked ahead of Georgia, Alabama, FSU. and Washington whom they lost to TWICE?

Are you saying the top 4 in the CFP should have been Michigan, Oregon, Georgia, OSU?
 
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It’s always interesting to me how people on this board respect Las Vegas and its betting spreads, but so ignorantly dismiss the only publicly available free system that takes into account account every snap played by every team while disregarding garbage time and adjusting for opponent strength and luck. Vegas and other betting sites are using models very similar to F+ to set those opening lines. I know this as someone who bets on sports regularly and notices the similarities..

I do not know what field most of you are in, but granular analytics data informed just about every decision by just about every multinational company, and by just about every professional sporting team.

If you take a look at the opening spreads for games played on neutral fields, and you look at the F+ rankings, the opening line spreads closely match how teams are ranked in the F+ system as long as there are no major injuries or any other drastic changes. A lot of people were probably surprised that Texas was favored over Washington, but granular data models (like F+) have Texas as a better team over the course of every snap played.
Yeah, Vegas doesn’t have a clue, I guess that’s why the build Billion dollar hotel-casinos and send jets and limos to bring gamblers to Vegas and then give those gamblers free suites, food and drink.

You don’t have a clue as to how Vegas sets the opening line, over/under, etc., etc..
 
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