We'll have to agree to disagree. Downsizing IMHO is highly unlikely. Most gurus from the inside believe Super Conferences are the wave of the future. The only question to be answered is will it be three or four.
We'll see soon enough.
Why Notre Dame should join the ACC in Football.
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We'll see soon enough.
Re...John Ogaunt...........
Argusman is an internet worm hiding behind the anonymity of the net that posts under many different names and actually talks with himself (aka argusman, holy smoke, epiticus, big fella fan, tim terrific, John Ogaunt and a host of others) all due to his lack of self esteem. This childish charade is foisted upon the message board by an adult man of retirement age living in Naples, Florida. He also has an estranged daughter that attended FSU. He is a drop out of Maryville Teachers College (aka NW Missouri State) and pretends to be affiliated with Notre Dame but never attended the school. He hopes to curry favor from Notre Dame alumni through pretense and accolades for the school. He claims to have been honored ("hopnored") at a ND football game but when questioned can not come up with the date, the opponent or anything else. He is the pariah of Rivals, hated by all, estranged by family and has no credibility with any Rivals posters.
Argusman went to Maryville Teacher's College (aka NW Missouri State in Maryville, Missouri). He dropped out and never graduated or received a degree. Of course, you could have guessed that just by reading his posts. All his clap-trap is a figment of his imagination as he tries to curry favor from ND graduates and fans.
Argusman's "alma mater" bwahahahaha!:
The original mission of the school, initially known as the Fifth District Normal School, was to teach elementary school teachers.
Class bell
In 1919 the school was renamed Northwest Missouri State Teacher's College. In 1949 the name was shrunk to Northwest Missouri State College. It's an alternative school for students that failed the entrance exams for the University of Missouri in Columbia.
Argusman is an internet worm hiding behind the anonymity of the net that posts under many different names and actually talks with himself (aka argusman, holy smoke, epiticus, big fella fan, tim terrific, John Ogaunt and a host of others) all due to his lack of self esteem. This childish charade is foisted upon the message board by an adult man of retirement age living in Naples, Florida. He also has an estranged daughter that attended FSU. He is a drop out of Maryville Teachers College (aka NW Missouri State) and pretends to be affiliated with Notre Dame but never attended the school. He hopes to curry favor from Notre Dame alumni through pretense and accolades for the school. He claims to have been honored ("hopnored") at a ND football game but when questioned can not come up with the date, the opponent or anything else. He is the pariah of Rivals, hated by all, estranged by family and has no credibility with any Rivals posters.
Argusman went to Maryville Teacher's College (aka NW Missouri State in Maryville, Missouri). He dropped out and never graduated or received a degree. Of course, you could have guessed that just by reading his posts. All his clap-trap is a figment of his imagination as he tries to curry favor from ND graduates and fans.
Argusman's "alma mater" bwahahahaha!:
The original mission of the school, initially known as the Fifth District Normal School, was to teach elementary school teachers.
Class bell
In 1919 the school was renamed Northwest Missouri State Teacher's College. In 1949 the name was shrunk to Northwest Missouri State College. It's an alternative school for students that failed the entrance exams for the University of Missouri in Columbia.
I agree. I'm not saying I like the idea of Super Conferences. No more than I like the idea of "one and done" in basketball. I and many others more knowledgeable than I just believe that's what the future holds for college FB. Not next year but in the next decade, perhaps. Again, just my opinion.
My opinion...it is rather the wishful trendy thinking that has taken over. Wishing it could be huge conferences.......
ACTUALLY the elephant in the room is Notre Dame and it pisses the execs at the networks off. The fact CBS, ABC can't get on campus during football Saturday drives then mad.
So I believe a lot of the Notre Dame should join talk is sour grapes and trying to get back at or I'll show you mentality.
Our independence is a wonderful thing.
it is a wonderful thing as long as it's sustainable. if there is a move to say 4 super conferences my guess is nd will have their hand forced. i don't think the brand would be strong enough to stand alone in that scenario.
And...
If a team with two losses or so upsets the undefeated in a conference title game then our 12 game schedule provided we only one loss helps.
Something almost never discussed
Profit is there. In fact, the SEC surpassed projections in the first year. It was expected to pay out $1 million per team, but actually ended up paying out $5 million per team. There's your profit. As the other link pointed out, SECN is bringing in more revenue than established channels like ESPNU or MLB Network. At that point, you simply have to concede that the revenue is indicative of the relative value of the network.
No, the CFP isn't a factor here. The SECN has nothing to do with the CFP. None of the revenue generated by SECN comes from the CFP. SECN revenue is entirely generated from subscriber fees and advertising revenue.
Just for the record, the impact of CFP money is well documented. It's basically this. The CFP makes a base payout of $50 million to each P5 conference. (Other leagues get less.) The conferences get an additional $6 million for appearing in a playoff game, and $4 million for an NY6 bowl. http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/revenue-distribution
I'll still take your bet, because you are simply wrong. You aren't going to see any teams go independent. Again, the money simply isn't there. As I said, each P5 conference pays out at least $20 million per team in television money. Nobody is going to get anywhere that kind of money as an independent. By the same token, you aren't going to see conferences downsize for the same reason. When conferences lose teams, then the TV networks can reduce their contracts.
Holy Crap you are a real jackass! Stop you damn lying. No body here likes you, go away!
Argus alert..........
Please note: argus is morphing into yet another new name............."JohnOgaunt".
Wikipedia.........
"Dissociative identity disorder (DID), previously known as multiple personality disorder (MPD),[1] is amental disorder on the dissociative spectrum characterized by the appearance of at least two distinct and relatively enduring identities"
Argusman is an internet worm hiding behind the anonymity of the net that posts under many different names and actually talks with himself (aka argusman, holy smoke, epiticus, big fella fan, tim terrific,JohnOgaunt and a host of others).
Yep, we have a weiner!
Please note: argus is morphing into yet another new name............."JohnOgaunt".
Wikipedia.........
"Dissociative identity disorder (DID), previously known as multiple personality disorder (MPD),[1] is amental disorder on the dissociative spectrum characterized by the appearance of at least two distinct and relatively enduring identities"
Argusman is an internet worm hiding behind the anonymity of the net that posts under many different names and actually talks with himself (aka argusman, holy smoke, epiticus, big fella fan, tim terrific,JohnOgaunt and a host of others).
Yep, we have a weiner!
You should stop drinking. You smell like urine all the time and your family will have some respect for you. You're going to end up just like your father, passed out drunk in the gutter every night. Man up fool. Stop supporting rapists and criminoles. Sober up and have some respect for yourself.
Wikipepia: Troll
Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; smart posters, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings,
Here's where I come in:
and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group.
Hope the troll is ready for this...
It's always been that way. The SEC never played a round robin schedule, and the Big Ten and Pac 10 didn't either, except for a brief period in the early 80s.
Not really. CBS is a niche programmer. They only have the SEC, so they can't get on campus at Texas, Southern Cal, Ohio St, etc. either. ABC does get Notre Dame games, via the ACC agreement. (See Notre Dame vs Florida St in 2014, vs Clemson 2015.)
This Duo/n0le troll has stated before that he has been trolling this argus character in his mind for 10 years. 10 years. And that post was made in 2015. So effectively this is it's 11th year trolling. Lately the troll has been observed attacking a daughter of a poster on this board. In the spirit of JW I guess.
Let's think about some thing's that have happened in the world in these 11 years.
In the last 11 years this country has elected an African American president 2 times.
In the last 11 years the smartphone has been invented changing the world for many.
In the last 11 years ND has been to the NC game once and came close this last year, under our coach, BK.
In the last 11 years this great country has landed a nuclear truck on Mars.
In the last 11 years this great country has found water on other planets.
All this while the troll has spent these last 11 years trolling a message board and harrassing the fans of the great university that is ND.
You should get yourself a gun. Go back into your trailer, put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger.
Save the resources you are using up like water, food and air for someone with a more worthy purpose in life.
Because you and your entire life's purpose are pathetic, by any interpretation of the word.
Let's think about some thing's that have happened in the world in these 11 years.
In the last 11 years this country has elected an African American president 2 times.
In the last 11 years the smartphone has been invented changing the world for many.
In the last 11 years ND has been to the NC game once and came close this last year, under our coach, BK.
In the last 11 years this great country has landed a nuclear truck on Mars.
In the last 11 years this great country has found water on other planets.
All this while the troll has spent these last 11 years trolling a message board and harrassing the fans of the great university that is ND.
You should get yourself a gun. Go back into your trailer, put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger.
Save the resources you are using up like water, food and air for someone with a more worthy purpose in life.
Because you and your entire life's purpose are pathetic, by any interpretation of the word.
"Argusman" is probably the only Rivals handle that has been used as a noun, verb, and adjective by posters across the country.
The troll has been effective no doubt. It's been 11 years.
Wikipedia:
Psychological characteristics
Two studies published in 2013 and 2014 have found that people who are identified as trolls tend to have dark personality traits and show signs of sadism, antisocial behavior,psychopathy, the noxious personality characteristics known as the "dark triad of personality" should be investigated in the analysis of trolling, trolling appears "to be an Internet manifestation of everyday sadism."
Rapists and criminoles.
Wikipedia:
Psychological characteristics
Two studies published in 2013 and 2014 have found that people who are identified as trolls tend to have dark personality traits and show signs of sadism, antisocial behavior,psychopathy, the noxious personality characteristics known as the "dark triad of personality" should be investigated in the analysis of trolling, trolling appears "to be an Internet manifestation of everyday sadism."
Rapists and criminoles.
Not true. Until recently teams in the same conference didn't go 6-8 years without playing each other (except the SEC ).
Imagine you calling anyone a loser. You are obviously still smarting from all the ridicule you received for your "ND basketball season is in the dumpster" thread. Of course, you couldn't have been more wrong.
But please, show us all where in that publication you linked it states which power 5 athletic programs made money and lost money.
By using your perspective the Big 10 makes the most sense if ND was forced into a conference. It would also help getting NDs wrestling program back in the mix
BC ,Pitt, the U, FSU have nowhere the history as the teams in the Big 10
Yes, it is true. The Big Ten and Pac 12 don't go 6-8 years without playing each other. They play 9-game schedules, so they still have a normal rotation. The SEC had that issue even in the old days. The only conference where this is a change is in the ACC.
Argus et al...............
"Tell me a new story about my kids, they love it"
ahh.........sure.........ah huh...........yeah right..........
Real proud of papa making up different names and posting them on a message board while talking with himself.
More like...........
"How many personalities are required to have him put away?"
Oh wait.....................
Argusman et al, is estranged by his FSU daughter and family while trying to gain acceptance from ND alumni and fans!
Don't respond to my posts if you don't know what you are talking about. Iowa and Illinois did not play each other for six straight years, from 2007-2014. There were others in the Big 10 who didn't play each other for six straight years, but I don't have the time or desire to go and look them up. It was well documented here in the midwest.
As a business analyst/stratest, everything is predicated on ROI. Without knowing the details of the financials, I am relatively comfortable in stating that ND is in the black. Their endowment fund is huge. Maybe they stay in the black by continuing to ignore the Basketball Facilities. How Brey continues to do what he does is a mystery. Buguit...suck that!
Look it up yourself, lazy ass. It was your stupid ass that posted 13-14 data when 14-15 data has been readily available for months.
Finally, agreement. The brand of ND has been degraded significantly. 28 years without a NC does that. Basically the brand for ND is a combination of nostalgia and hope. For instance, 2012 was a result of that. We had no business being in the NC game but some polsters hoped for a Jim Valvano type Cinderella story. The CW years prior to coach finesse continued to produce teams posing as contenders. The devastating destruction at the hands of our opponents in these losses resounds with the polsters to this day. Until this team become dominant to the point that they cannot be left out of the NC discussion and actually win a meaningful bowl game, this doubt will persist. Close games to Wake Forest, Navy, Tulsa, etc. will not get it done.
In other words, the brand does not justify the self-absorption of ND football administration and its myopic vision of its place in CFB, Eventually, if the institution does not adhere to the powers that be, we will be on the outside looking in with our little beaks pressed against the window.
Here you go lazy ass. You were wrong, as usual.
School $Excess Rev over Expense
The University of Texas at Austin $74,615,226
The University of Tennessee-Knoxville $64,225,295
University of Georgia $45,022,773
Louisiana State University $41,054,484
Florida State University $38,972,098
Ohio State University-Main Campus $35,572,785
The University of Alabama $34,910,135
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor $30,163,429
University of Washington-Seattle Campus $26,658,095
Syracuse University $25,506,102
University of Louisville $25,504,501
Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus $25,433,746
University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus $25,418,255
Auburn University $25,373,546
University of Oregon $24,313,122
University of Arkansas $23,863,038
University of Notre Dame $22,538,018
University of Missouri-Columbia $20,436,400
Michigan State University $19,937,636
North Carolina State University at Raleigh $18,353,129
Duke University $17,699,994
Oklahoma State University-Main Campus $17,660,057
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill $17,328,441
Texas A & M University-College Station $16,954,147
University of Nebraska-Lincoln $16,504,240
University of Wisconsin-Madison $15,786,521
University of Florida $14,576,424
University of Mississippi $14,078,519
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University $13,307,243
University of Southern California $13,181,941
Oregon State University $12,940,971
University of Utah $12,079,341
Stanford University $11,458,419
Clemson University $10,826,534
University of Maryland-College Park $10,682,487
University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus $9,674,351
University of Iowa $8,994,200
University of California-Berkeley $8,985,851
Washington State University $8,496,058
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign $8,418,831
Texas Tech University $7,580,102
Texas Christian University $7,508,323
Rutgers University-New Brunswick $7,453,051
West Virginia University $7,235,950
Baylor University $7,141,662
Iowa State University $7,096,362
University of South Carolina-Columbia $7,076,073
Kansas State University $6,747,238
Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus $5,931,268
Wake Forest University $5,475,205
Vanderbilt University $3,272,867
Boston College $2,511,967
Mississippi State University $2,424,809
Arizona State University-Tempe $1,927,040
University of California-Los Angeles $1,853,305
University of Colorado Boulder $1,224,029
University of Miami $573,798
University of Arizona $559,409
Northwestern University $498,065
University of Kentucky ($1,009,497)
Indiana University-Bloomington ($1,593,981)
University of Virginia-Main Campus ($5,379,372)
University of Kansas ($6,806,751)
University of Minnesota-Twin Cities ($7,940,070)
Purdue University-Main Campus ($8,036,270)
!TROLL ALERT!
Wikipedia: Internet Troll
Psychological characteristics
Two studies published in 2013 and 2014 have found that people who are identified as trolls tend to havedark personality traits and show signs of sadism, antisocial behavior,psychopathy, the noxious personality characteristics known as the "dark triad of personality" should be investigated in the analysis of trolling, trolling appears "to be an Internet manifestation of everyday sadism."
Hey psycho, please provide me the definition of a brand and your definition of ND Football's brand.
Wikipepia: Troll
Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; smart posters, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings,
Here's where I come in:
and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group.
Psychological characteristics
Two studies published in 2013 and 2014 have found that people who are identified as trolls tend to havedark personality traits and show signs of sadism, antisocial behavior,psychopathy, the noxious personality characteristics known as the "dark triad of personality" should be investigated in the analysis of trolling, trolling appears "to be an Internet manifestation of everyday sadism."
Hope the troll is ready for this...I'm just waiting for punch drunk and stupid to join in..
argusman, holy smoke, epiticus, big fella fan, tim terrific, John Ogaunt and a host of others.
Argus et al...............
"Tell me a new story about my kids, they love it"
ahh.........sure.........ah huh...........yeah right..........
Real proud of papa making up different names and posting them on a message board while talking with himself.
More like...........
"How many personalities are required to have him put away?"
Oh wait.....................
Argusman et al, is estranged by his FSU daughter and family while trying to gain acceptance from ND alumni and fans!
Wtf are you guys doing?
The brand is as strong as it always has been because of what you mentioned...nostalgia and hope. Relevance in football is not always about winning a Natty. Although that is extremely helpful. It's about always being in the conversation. Every opponent said what this year? "A game against ND is always big." Or, something to that effect. Practically, Every game is primetime and the CFP has us in top 3 if we just put away Wake and BC, going into Stanford. The Brand is still strong my friend! We are a top 10 program again.
Why would ND go to a conference? We just had a one loss season going into the last 3 weeks of the season and the committee had us ranked 4th. If we just toast the teams we were supposed to toast we are #3 going into Palo Alto. No need for 13th game or conference.
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