My hope is that Rees let's him throw this time. He was WWAAAAYYYY over protective of letting Buchner pass. They need to let him turn it loose
Yet you just said he would be drafted in round 1 in your post …Not a chance in hell 10 QB's will be drafted ahead of Michael Penix.
And saying where Penix will be drafted 10 weeks before the NFL combine, and 4-5 months before the NFL Draft, is a slippery slope.
Watch him play. Rather than quote Pff or draftbuzz, you tell me.Yet you just said he would be drafted in round 1 in your post …
Yes it does. He needs the experience in live games. He has very little of it in the last 4 years.Now is a good time to see what Angeli has. I would only play Buchner if it was an emergency. Let him get the practice time but playing him doesn't accomplish much. Risk vs reward.
Maybe like 2 to 3 players a team sit out. When you say so many you are really reachingOn this we disagree, it's meaningless to the players as well, that's why each year so many sit them out. It's truly unfortunate, but that is exactly what has happened to CFB. I hate it, I'm sure you hate it, but it's the way it is
Those games have always been more important. Every since we were little kids.Absolutely. Cracks me up that some marketing person at ABC/ ESPN comes up with the label of "NY6" bowl games for promotional purposes and those games suddenly become more significant than the other non playoff bowl games. They're ALL consolation games. The sign says " play like a champion today " not " play like a gator bowl winner today ".
I'll tell you then. He's not a round 1 guyWatch him play. Rather than quote Pff or draftbuzz, you tell me.
There is ZERO REASON TO PLAY ANGELI. He's third string next year if minchey doesn't pass him on the depth chart. If he is. Serious contender for the number two spot next year then sure give him a series or two. If not play Buchner he needs live repsYes it does. He needs the experience in live games. He has very little of it in the last 4 years.
Gotta play him if he is healthy
He's not a round 2 guyI'll tell you then. He's not a round 1 guy
Today they mean nothing. When it moves to 12 teams anything not the playoff is totally meaningless outside of extra practices.Those games have always been more important. Every since we were little kids.
Rose, sugar, Fiesta, orange, cotton
Always been the biggest of games. Nothing new
In your opinion. I still want to win those big games and I know a lot of other fans do as wellToday they mean nothing. When it moves to 12 teams anything not the playoff is totally meaningless outside of extra practices.
I'm definitely starting Buchner if he is healthy. I wouldn't mind seeing a series or two from Angeli but I hope Buchner plays well and takes every snapThere is ZERO REASON TO PLAY ANGELI. He's third string next year if minchey doesn't pass him on the depth chart. If he is. Serious contender for the number two spot next year then sure give him a series or two. If not play Buchner he needs live reps
Stop your crap. Don't pivot. Don't change the narrative. You first said he would be a first round pick, then admonished another poster who said that he would not be among the first 10 QBs chosen....by saying it was ridiculous to forecast where he would be picked this far in advance.Watch him play. Rather than quote Pff or draftbuzz, you tell me.
Yeah ND doesn't hang banners for the Taxslayer Gator Bowl or the Chickfilet Peach Bowl. I'm glad the kids get the experience and swag but it's a glorified exhibition nothing moreIn your opinion. I still want to win those big games and I know a lot of other fans do as well
It's great if he gets some pt, and plays great, but at some point people have to look at the depth chart and what's coming in and realize it's very unlikely Angeli ever starts outside of injury.I'm definitely starting Buchner if he is healthy. I wouldn't mind seeing a series or two from Angeli but I hope Buchner plays well and takes every snap
So your best players sit out and you don't think that effects the game. I see Mayer, Patterson, Foskey and possibly Adiamolola (sp) sitting out. Therefore any luster a bowl may have once had, it's goneMaybe like 2 to 3 players a team sit out. When you say so many you are really reaching
Then don't watch.Yeah ND doesn't hang banners for the Taxslayer Gator Bowl or the Chickfilet Peach Bowl. I'm glad the kids get the experience and swag but it's a glorified exhibition nothing more
I'll tell you then. He's not a round 1 guy
OK. If both of you contend that Michael Penix is not among the first 64 players selected in a QB starved NFL, all good.He's not a round 2 guy
Maybe thats why we lose all the big bowl games since 94Yeah ND doesn't hang banners for the Taxslayer Gator Bowl or the Chickfilet Peach Bowl. I'm glad the kids get the experience and swag but it's a glorified exhibition nothing more
Maybe. But Pyne has played a lot of football and Angeli is a better prospect than him. You never know what can happen in football and especially in this era of transfersIt's great if he gets some pt, and plays great, but at some point people have to look at the depth chart and what's coming in and realize it's very unlikely Angeli ever starts outside of injury.
I dont think there was any luster ever for the gator bowl. Top players rarely ever sit out the big bowl games.So your best players sit out and you don't think that effects the game. I see Mayer, Patterson, Foskey and possibly Adiamolola (sp) sitting out. Therefore any luster a bowl may have once had, it's gone
Who cares? This game means nothingSo you’re willing to lose the game just to give some players some experience for next year ?
I said hes not a round 1 guy and stand by thatOK. If both of you contend that Michael Penix is not among the first 64 players selected in a QB starved NFL, all good.
We will re-visit in late April.
Agree. This narrative that a multitude of players sit out from each team simply isn't true.Maybe like 2 to 3 players a team sit out. When you say so many you are really reaching
Noted.I said hes not a round 1 guy and stand by that
Wrong! There's a lot new, its called the playoffs! Yes, the better teams play in these bowls but that doesn't make them anymore important. Its playoffs or bust. The games are meaningless.Those games have always been more important. Every since we were little kids.
Rose, sugar, Fiesta, orange, cotton
Always been the biggest of games. Nothing new
Oh I'll watch for the entertainment thanks, but the game means nothing!Then don't watch.
If the game means nothing to you, don't watch.Oh I'll watch for the entertainment thanks, but the game means nothing!
94,000 will pack the Rose Bowl for Utah-Penn State.Wrong! There's a lot new, its called the playoffs! Yes, the better teams play in these bowls but that doesn't make them anymore important. Its playoffs or bust. The games are meaningless.
Uh huh..dressed as seats. PSU isn't drawing a huge crowd at rose bowl94,000 will pack the Rose Bowl for Utah-Penn State.
That's one heck of a lot of travel and $$$$$$ spent for a game that means nothing.
Exactly that's close to 20% of your starters out.So your best players sit out and you don't think that effects the game. I see Mayer, Patterson, Foskey and possibly Adiamolola (sp) sitting out. Therefore any luster a bowl may have once had, it's gone
In your opinion. I watch the big bowl games and the players, coaches and the fans sure look like they care a lot about themWrong! There's a lot new, its called the playoffs! Yes, the better teams play in these bowls but that doesn't make them anymore important. Its playoffs or bust. The games are meaningless.
Nonsense. Their fans travel like crazy and will be pumped for that. I know. I live in PA and am a graduateUh huh..dressed as seats. PSU isn't drawing a huge crowd at rose bowl
LMAO.Uh huh..dressed as seats. PSU isn't drawing a huge crowd at rose bowl
Then don't watch.Exactly that's close to 20% of your starters out.
That's why it's about next year not ending this year.
Yep. Have fun. Gunslinger. If he sucks it up, we know Angeli and Minchey have a good shot.My hope is that Rees let's him throw this time. He was WWAAAAYYYY over protective of letting Buchner pass. They need to let him turn it loose
I'm sorry your too stupid to understand what "the game means nothing" actually meansIf the game means nothing to you, don't watch.
No playoffs means the game means nothing. Dude you are really quite stupid94,000 will pack the Rose Bowl for Utah-Penn State.
That's one heck of a lot of travel and $$$$$$ spent for a game that means nothing.
While I agree with you overall, didn’t you play in the Rose Bowl under Perles? Michigan State wasn’t playing for a national championship, but I assume you didn’t think the game was meaningless. Granted CFB was different in those days.Of course you want to win. But the biggest advantage to these games is the extra practice time which gives your younger players more opportunities to improve in a structured environment.