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What's happening to the Donald?

Up here in Michigan snowflakes are melting, i hope the crying stops soon! so stupid to expect free anything from the Government, Pres Kennedy said ask not what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country. meaning get off your butts!
This country was not built on free anything.

My father told his children something very profound
What do you want in life......A six pack of beer and a trailer payment, or something more... hard work, proving yourself, and going the extra mile get you something more.
The choice is ours
 
He just expressed a willingness to grant legal status to millions of undocumented immigrants who have not committed serious crimes. How Barack of him. Wonder how that will play in Trump-land?

Talk amongst yourselves.
This is a prisoner exchange program Lock up Hillary and let millions go
 
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The definition of compromise and statesmanship in DC terms is for Republicans win or lose to abandon all conservative principles and accede to the demands of the left wing media and Democrat Party. That's what they call " common ground ". There is no expectation that the Democratic party should ever compromise on their policies to move the country forward. The Republicans who throw their own party voters under the bus ( RINO) become favorites of the media and earn the esteemed title of " Statesman" see John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Any Republican or Conservative who doesn't give in to the demands of left is guaranteed to be labeled a far right extremist.
Excellent post
 
Why is eminent domain a problem? It is the principle that allows government to take property for its needs.

I understand it, but I was watching a news program where their may be Question on Indian Reservations ?
I'm certainly not knowlegdeable about the laws as they pertain to Indian Reservations, but I think that land
is almost like Foreign land because of treaties with the Indians.
Emenent Domain gives the Feds the right to take the land, but It seems that there is a great number of people residing along the border, and I guess, Congress and the Senate may have to vote ? Not Sure ?
But if there is enough opposition, the vote in the Senate is not a sure thing ?
Beach, in any case, You as a lawyer know more about than I do !
 
No that would not be a crappy answer in fact it is probably the truth outside of the military the government doesn't run anything correctly.

The idea of the ACA is a noble one but the way it was forced down the Public's throat and the lies that perpetuated it without even knowing what's in the bill only proves government is clueless in this fact Nancy Pelosi's response of " we have to pass it in order to see what's in it" only shows her ignorance.
That being said there are ways of correcting this through the free market and I'm sorry for 20-something year old to still be on their parents insurance is Ludacris so that has to drop
Preexisting illnesses are something the insurance companies going to have to deal with there are very few jobs in America at this point where you will enter and remain at the same company for 20 years NAFTA killed that as well as the advances in technology.
The problem is the Democrats did not want to work with the Republicans when implementing this at first and they still do not want to work with Republicans even as their number shrink in power
This is a very difficult bill that will have to be worked out soon in order for tax reform to move forward
I like Rand Paul and believe he should Spearhead the new ACA .

Again people have short memories when it comes to how ACA came to fruition. History lesson http://affordablehealthca.com/history-affordable-care-act/. “This so-called public option is going to force millions of Americans out of their private health insurance into a government-run plan,” charged House leader John Boehner.

So because YOU can pay for your insurance or work for a company who provides it makes you out of touch. I've never been without insurance so that also makes me out of touch. However I think it's ludicrous in this modern time that someone could go bankrupt because of medical bills. No one lost their mind when Mitt Romney (a Repub) did the same thing for the state of Massachusetts. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/massachusetts-health-care-plan-6-years-later/
 
The Republican s suffered no backlash resisting Obama s policies bc Obama s policies were unpopular with the American people. Obama was a paradox. While he enjoyed positive popularity his policies were decidedly unpopular. Witness the decimation of the Democratic party at every level of elected governmental office. In 2018 there are far more Democrat Senators up for re- election than Republican Senators. 10 or 11 Democrats are running for re-election in states Trump carried. Real danger in going down the obstructionist path for them. The Right Track / Wrong Track numbers are the biggest tell. During Obama s 2 terms they were almost perpetually negative but now under Trump those numbers hv reversed and are positive. Basically despite the relentlessly efforts by media and Democrats Trump's policies are popular and country wants them largely implemented . My guess is the moronic left and democratic party will double down and only hear the echo chamber of their accomplices in the media. Thus ensuring another Wipeout for them in 2018. Trump may end up being the Waterloo for the Left. And I think that's a beautiful thing! MAGA!!
Which policies did the American people not like? It's obvious most didn't realize "Obamacare" was the same thing as the ACA.
 
The Republican s suffered no backlash resisting Obama s policies bc Obama s policies were unpopular with the American people. Obama was a paradox. While he enjoyed positive popularity his policies were decidedly unpopular. Witness the decimation of the Democratic party at every level of elected governmental office. In 2018 there are far more Democrat Senators up for re- election than Republican Senators. 10 or 11 Democrats are running for re-election in states Trump carried. Real danger in going down the obstructionist path for them. The Right Track / Wrong Track numbers are the biggest tell. During Obama s 2 terms they were almost perpetually negative but now under Trump those numbers hv reversed and are positive. Basically despite the relentlessly efforts by media and Democrats Trump's policies are popular and country wants them largely implemented . My guess is the moronic left and democratic party will double down and only hear the echo chamber of their accomplices in the media. Thus ensuring another Wipeout for them in 2018. Trump may end up being the Waterloo for the Left. And I think that's a beautiful thing! MAGA!!
The Dems who pay attention are finding out that making a big deal of issues that effect a minuscule segment of the population, like the transgender bathroom question or the funding of Planned Parenthood, for example, is a recipe for extinction. The Reps are focused on the big issues that effect large segments of the population, like the economic growth, national security, immigration, health care costs, etc.
 
Libtards really care about Americans who suffer from foreign criminals - I guess anything for a fraudulent vote!

During President Trump’s address to congress on Tuesday, the Democrats booed his proposal to give a voice to victims of immigrant crime.


“We must support the victims of crime,” Trump said. “I have ordered the Department of Homeland Security to create an office to serve American Victims.”

“The office is called VOICE,” he said. “Victims Of Immigration Crime Engagement. We are providing a voice to those who have been ignored by our media, and silenced by special interests.”
 
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Which policies did the American people not like? It's obvious most didn't realize "Obamacare" was the same thing as the ACA.
What the hell are you talking about you total CLOWN? Speak for yourself regarding people not knowing there is no difference between ACA aka Obamacare. It's a distinction without a difference. Are you intelligent enough to know what that means? I'll help . It means what you said doesn't matter bc whether it's called ACA or Obamacare it is what it is . And the public never supported it .
Here is a list of unpopular Obama policies
- ACA ( Obamacare ) signature policy
-Stimulus package ( pork barrel spending on steroids
- Immigration / Amnesty plan
- opposition to Keystone Pipeline
- Deal with Iran
- action in Syria
Proof in pudding is the heavy democratic losses at state and federal election levels. I think Mr Quest that you must have attended Faber College " Fat dumb and stupid son is no way to go thru college son."
 
The Dems who pay attention are finding out that making a big deal of issues that effect a minuscule segment of the population, like the transgender bathroom question or the funding of Planned Parenthood, for example, is a recipe for extinction. The Reps are focused on the big issues that effect large segments of the population, like the economic growth, national security, immigration, health care costs, etc.
Identity politics. They thought they could ride a demographic way and thumb their noses at middle America.
 
27,000 Canadians served in Korea, including my grandfather and and two of my great uncles (one on either side). A Major, who was a field surgeon. An airborne combat medical specialist, who lost his left leg while serving attached to Royal Marines and fighter pilot, who flew as part of the UN'S air operation.

Ontario,
Medics, Field surgeons, and fighter pilots were indeed real heros. we Marines loved our Corpsmen
and all fighter pilots. Without the fighter pilots giving us support as we fought our way out of the Chosin
Reservoir, none of would be alive today !
 
What the hell are you talking about you total CLOWN? Speak for yourself regarding people not knowing there is no difference between ACA aka Obamacare. It's a distinction without a difference. Are you intelligent enough to know what that means? I'll help . It means what you said doesn't matter bc whether it's called ACA or Obamacare it is what it is . And the public never supported it .
Here is a list of unpopular Obama policies
- ACA ( Obamacare ) signature policy
-Stimulus package ( pork barrel spending on steroids
- Immigration / Amnesty plan
- opposition to Keystone Pipeline
- Deal with Iran
- action in Syria
Proof in pudding is the heavy democratic losses at state and federal election levels. I think Mr Quest that you must have attended Faber College " Fat dumb and stupid son is no way to go thru college son."
Please sheep! Once again you resort to name calling and derogatory remarks yet never answer the question. You listed ONE policy in your reply. Yet those who didn't have insurance before the ACA would disagree with you. Again it's plenty documented this is a policy that needs re-working. But again I'll wait while you reply back with more "policies" that the American people didn't like.
 
If you thought there was any chance that he would try to deport 12 million law abiding illegals you are naive. That was never going to happen.
Not calling you out or anything, cause you're not the one who invented the term. But think about the logic in saying "law abiding illegals". We have every right to kick out every illegal alien we choose, I'm not saying we should, but we cannot allow non citizens to use our tax payer money. That in and of itself is stealing. For instance in my county the average PUBLIC school student cost is 13 grand, and the school board is trying to make the school district a sanctuary district. In many instances illegal immigrants get better hospital treatment than vets. Crime and gang life is rampant in illegal immigrant communities. There is no such thing as a law abiding illegal as they broke the law coming into this country illegally.
 
Also, the Donald is a tough and smart American leader. He is the embodiment of what the leftist media hates, which is why they constantly take shots at him. He is like the doctor that tells a 300 pound smoker he needs to start eating better and stop smoking after 8 years of a sweet sugary diet of obama. He is the a**hole this country needed.
 
Again people have short memories when it comes to how ACA came to fruition. History lesson http://affordablehealthca.com/history-affordable-care-act/. “This so-called public option is going to force millions of Americans out of their private health insurance into a government-run plan,” charged House leader John Boehner.

So because YOU can pay for your insurance or work for a company who provides it makes you out of touch. I've never been without insurance so that also makes me out of touch. However I think it's ludicrous in this modern time that someone could go bankrupt because of medical bills. No one lost their mind when Mitt Romney (a Repub) did the same thing for the state of Massachusetts. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/massachusetts-health-care-plan-6-years-later/

You are mudding the water.
Everybody agrees no one should go broke due to medical bills
Everyone knows the insurance companies had the upper hand
President Obama, and the Saul Alinsky types of the Democratic party, had no intention to work with the Republicans, or for the ACA to work. It was built for failure.
They where banking on its failure along with Hillary Clinton just waltzing in and installing a government single payer program, and that blew up in their face when the American people chose the most out of the ordinary candidate in modern history.
The reason no one lost their mind about Romneycare, was because that was a state run program which didn't affect the rest of the country whereas a federal government was forcing the people into a program, and lied to the public about the benefits the whole time, and you have no problem with that?
 
^^^^ girlyman Canadian liberal

Words from Great sage:
I as a Trump supporter knew he would build a wall which he will do along with high tech gadgets and better survelliance. Never did I think it would be a Lord of the rings wall-- that comes from the imagination of you LIBTARDS !!
Just like when he says he wants to VET certain Muslim countrys to help prevent radical terrorism. You LIBTARDS and your wild imaginations said he wanted to deport all MUSLIMS--another lie by the left.

Trump is also ending all these business hurting regulations that Obama made. Trump is a NATIONALIST PROAMERICANworker. The economy is going to be booming under Trump and will be easy for him to do as Obama never had a gdp quarter over 3 percent (1.8 percent growth his last quarter in office.
Trump is going to lower the corporate tax rate--PROBUSINESS !! And make better trade deals for America !!
And the # 1 thing we will get under Trump is a strict constitutionalist Neil Gorsach (sp?) as a supreme court judge.

iio you may have been fooled but millions of us middle class Trump voters knew exactly what we were getting under Trump and are glad !! .

Lol... Bodi

It was Mr. Trump who routinely campaigned that he would build a wall and it would be "big" and "high". I'm not the liberal media. Those words came out of his mouth routinely during his campaign. For you to pretend that they didn't and to suggest that the opposition constructed that idea is completely foolish. You can't actually be delusional enough to think that Mr. Trump didn't create and perpetuate th8s idea of a massive wall, that even those in his own party are starting to downplay as more of "metaphor".

You can call me a girly man all you want. The opinion of the the servicemen and women of the United States Military, who I routinely serve beside, matters much more to me than yours. Myself, as well as those fine young men and women, would run circles around your old ass :)

And remember that those girly Canadians had their own beach at Normandy, just like you did. They were in Hong Kong fighting the Japanese before America even entered into the war. They parachuted into Germany and France alongside your airborne troops. They stood alongside the United States Military as they marched towards Germany. They single-handedly liberated the Dutch from German occupation and a terrible starvation campaign. They fought beside America in Korea. They played and integral role in Afghanistan. Your own Colonel in charge of all special forces in Afghanistan publicly stated that Canadian JTF2 Tier 1 operators were his first choice over your own Deltas and SEALS because of their elite professionalism and counterterrorism training that is second to none..... I could go on forever here, but the point is that that you have no ****ing clue what you're talking about when you refer to Canadians as girly. Again, I'll defer to the opinions of the men and women who proudly serve your country on a daily basis and have wildly different views than you.[/QUOTE]

Maybe, but how much can you and your girly friends bench? I lift more than run now. What I lack in VO2 Max I make up for in powerful pecs !:mad:
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You are mudding the water.
Everybody agrees no one should go broke due to medical bills
Everyone knows the insurance companies had the upper hand
President Obama, and the Saul Alinsky types of the Democratic party, had no intention to work with the Republicans, or for the ACA to work. It was built for failure.
They where banking on its failure along with Hillary Clinton just waltzing in and installing a government single payer program, and that blew up in their face when the American people chose the most out of the ordinary candidate in modern history.
The reason no one lost their mind about Romneycare, was because that was a state run program which didn't affect the rest of the country whereas a federal government was forcing the people into a program, and lied to the public about the benefits the whole time, and you have no problem with that?
Dip...so in your mind when legislature for ACA was being drafted it was the intent to trick the American people about the benefits? Have you ever seen something planned but go astray from it?
 
Dip...so in your mind when legislature for ACA was being drafted it was the intent to trick the American people about the benefits? Have you ever seen something planned but go astray from it?
This is not something that's in my mind like a fantasy
Fact 1- there was no way this program could be sustained on its own.
Fact 2- spewing lies to mislead the public about keeping your plan/doctor's....ECT

Yes this was design to mislead the public inorder to allow a single payer system to be their next step.
Completely calculated, but they left out the Trump factor
Why else do you think Harry Reid created the simple majority rule which has blown up in the Democrats face.
They didn't see him coming
 
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Dip...so in your mind when legislature for ACA was being drafted it was the intent to trick the American people about the benefits? Have you ever seen something planned but go astray from it?
,......Continued
Let's say something that nefarious wasn't happening. They rammed this through without reading the bill
That on its own is incompetent
 
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,......Continued
Let's say something that nefarious wasn't happening. They rammed this through without reading the bill
That on its own is incompetent
or you can't just say I'm a conservative republican who poo-poo's anything done by any other party but mine. By the way ACA has also helped control the premium increase in the private market. Don't believe me research it.
 
or you can't just say I'm a conservative republican who poo-poo's anything done by any other party but mine. By the way ACA has also helped control the premium increase in the private market. Don't believe me research it.

So me not liking the FACT the Democrats ramming major legislation through without reading it, and then knowingly lying about the benefits time, and time again until the lie could not be sustained, and then pretending like they didn't say it is poo- pooing on anything done by anyother party only tells me you can't see the forest through the trees
Deductibles are rising, premiums are rising, choices are shrinking hum

BTW there are only two parties silly
 
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Comrade Trumpsky is full of lies and fake news.

Poll: CNN Brand Continues to Plummet on Fake News

YouGov poll shows that CNN falls behind MSNBC and Fox News in brand perception, the Daily Caller reports.

The poll asked respondents, “If you’ve heard anything about the brand in the last two weeks, through advertising, news or word of mouth, was it positive or negative?”

Of the three cable networks, Fox News was the only network to score a neutral brand perception. CNN and MSNBC both scored negative on brand perception.

“CNN’s negative acceleration point happened in mid-October 2016, around the time Anderson Cooper interviewed Melania Trump, notably discussing her husband’s famous ‘Access Hollywood’ tape,” YouGov’s Ted Marzilli notes.

“Also at that time, a local North Carolina Republican office was firebombed, causing conservative-leaning media to pounce on CNN for suggesting Trump’s rhetoric spurred the incident.”


Marzilli adds that particular news events and President Trump’s bashing of the network’s news coverage have taken a toll on CNN.

Trump has consistently called CNN “fake news,” along with the New York Times, for its not-so-favorable coverage of his administration and its penchant for making several mistakes when reporting on the administration:

On Tuesday, CNN’s Jim Acosta inaccurately claimed that Trump made no mention of the “administrative state” in his speech to a joint session of Congress. Trump alluded to the “administrative state” while talking about his lobbying ban for executive branch officials and hiring freeze for non-essential federal government workers.

CNN dedicated much airtime in January to memos alleging that Trump’s presidential campaign was in communication with Russian officials. The reports turned out to be false.
 
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So me not liking the FACT the Democrats ramming major legislation through without reading it, and then knowingly lying about the benefits time, and time again until the lie could not be sustained, and then pretending like they didn't say it is poo- pooing on anything done by anyother party only tells me you can't see the forest through the trees
Deductibles are rising, premiums are rising, choices are shrinking hum

BTW there are only two parties silly

Is this fact or opinion?
 
The Republican being being called obstructionist during the past Administration is very laughable considering Congress when it was in the Democratic hands never included the Republicans or wanted to work with them to come together with a comprehensive understanding

Wasting time by voting many multiple times to repeal the ACA when they knew neither the Senate nor Obama would go along shows how little those Republicans were interested in cooperating or governing.

They convinced their base over those years and now the Republicans have both houses and the White House. Their strategy of denying Obama any progress did seem to work for them. Why deny that it was their strategy?
 
Is this fact or opinion?
Surely you know this to be fact:



From Politifact:

We counted dozens of times that President Barack Obama said that if people liked their health plans, they could keep them.


It was a catchy political pitch and a chance to calm nerves about his dramatic and complicated plan to bring historic change to America’s health insurance system.

"If you like your health careplan, you can keep it," President Barack Obama said -- many times -- of his landmark new la
But the promise was impossible to keep.

So this fall, as cancellation letters were going out to approximately 4 million Americans, the public realized Obama’s breezy assurances were wrong.

Boiling down the complicated health care law to a soundbite proved treacherous, even for its promoter-in-chief. Obama and his team made matters worse, suggesting they had been misunderstood all along. The stunning political uproar led to this: a rare presidential apology.

For all of these reasons, PolitiFact has named "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it," the Lie of the Year for 2013. Readers in a separate online poll overwhelmingly agreed with the choice. (PolitiFact first announced its selection on CNN's The Lead with Jake Tapper.)

For four of the past five years, PolitiFact’s Lie of the Year has revolved around the health care law, which has been subject to more erroneous attacks than any other piece of legislation PolitiFact has fact-checked.

Obama’s ideas on health care were first offered as general outlines then grew into specific legislation over the course of his presidency. Yet Obama never adjusted his rhetoric to give people a more accurate sense of the law’s real-world repercussions, even as fact-checkers flagged his statements as exaggerated at best.

Instead, he fought back against inaccurate attacks with his own oversimplifications, which he repeated even as it became clear his promise was too sweeping.

The debate about the health care law rages on, but friends and foes of Obamacare have found one slice of common ground: The president’s "you can keep it" claim has been a real hit to his credibility.

Why the cancellations happened

How did we get to this point?

The Affordable Care Act triedto allow existing health plans to continue under a complicated process called "grandfathering," which basically said insurance companies could keep selling plans if they followed certain rules.

The problem for insurers was that the Obamacare rules were strict. If the plans deviated even a little, they would lose their grandfathered status. In practice, that meant insurers canceled plans that didn’t meet new standards.

Obama’s team seemed to understand that likelihood. U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius announced the grandfathering rules in June 2010 and acknowledged that some plans would go away. Yet Obama repeated "if you like your health care plan, you can keep it" when seeking re-election last year.

In 2009 and again in 2012, PolitiFact rated Obama’s statement Half True, which means the statement is partially correct and partially wrong. We noted that while the law took pains to leave some parts of the insurance market alone, people were not guaranteed to keep insurance through thick and thin. It was likely that some private insurers would continue to force people to switch plans, and that trend might even accelerate.

In the final months of 2013, several critical elements of the health care law were being enacted, and media attention was at its height. Healthcare.gov made its debut on Oct. 1. It didn’t take long for the media, the public and Obama’s own team to realize the website was a technological mess, freezing out customers and generally not working.

Also on Oct. 1, insurers started sending out cancellation letters for 2014.

No one knows exactly how many people got notices, because the health insurance market is largely private and highly fragmented. Analysts estimated the number at about 4 million (and potentially higher), out of a total insured population of about 262 million.

That was less than 2 percent, but there was no shortage of powerful anecdotes about canceled coverage.

One example: PBS Newshour intervieweda woman from Washington, D.C., who was a supporter of the health care law and found her policy canceled. New policies had significantly higher rates. She told Newshour that the only thing the new policy covered that her old one didn’t was maternity care and pediatric services. And she was 58.

"The chance of me having a child at this age is zero. So, you know, I ask the president, why do I have to pay an additional $5,000 a year for maternity coverage that I will never, ever need?" asked Deborah Persico.

The administration’s botched response

Initially, Obama and his team didn’t budge.

First, they tried to shift blame to insurers. "FACT: Nothing in #Obamacare forces people out of their health plans," said Valerie Jarrett, a top adviser to Obama, on Oct. 28.

PolitiFact rated her statement False. The restrictions on grandfathering were part of the law, and they were driving cancellations.

Then, they tried to change the subject. "It’s important to remember both before the ACA was ever even a gleam in anybody’s eye, let alone passed into law, that insurance companies were doing this all the time, especially in the individual market because it was lightly regulated and the incentives were so skewed," saidWhite House Press Secretary Jay Carney.

But what really set everyone off was when Obama tried to rewrite his slogan, telling political supporters on Nov. 4, "Now, if you have or had one of these plans before the Affordable Care Act came into law, and you really liked that plan, what we said was you can keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law passed."

Pants on Fire! PolitiFact counted 37 times when he’d included no caveats, such as a high-profile speech to the American Medical Association in 2009: "If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what."

Even Obama’s staunchest allies cried foul.

On Nov. 6, columnist Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune wrote that the public "was entitled to hear the unvarnished truth, not spin, from their president about what they were about to face. I don't feel good about calling out Obama's whopper, because I support most of his policies and programs. But in this instance, he would have to be delusional to think he was telling the truth."

The next day, Obama apologized during a lengthy interview with NBC News’ Chuck Todd.

"We weren’t as clear as we needed to be in terms of the changes that were taking place, and I want to do everything we can to make sure that people are finding themselves in a good position, a better position than they were before this law happened. And I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me," he said.

Political fist-fight

The reaction from conservative talk shows was withering. On Nov. 11, Sean Hannity put Obama’s statements up there with President Richard Nixon’s "I am not a crook," and President Bill Clinton’s "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

On the liberal network MSNBC, Joy-Ann Reid said the Obama administration’s intention was to fight off attacks like the ones that scuttled Clinton’s health proposals in the early 1990s.

"That’s why the administration boiled it down to that, if you like your health care, you can keep it. Big mistake, but it was a mistake that I think came a little bit out of the lesson" of the Clinton years, she said Nov. 12.

Two days later, House minority leader Nancy Pelosi defended Obama’s statement as accurate and blamed insurance companies. "Did I ever tell my constituents that, if they like their plan, they could keep it? I would have, if I'd ever met anybody who liked his or her plan, but that was not my experience," she said.

Obama offered an administrative fix that same day, allowing state insurance commissioners to extend current plans. But only some have chosen to do so.

In announcing the fix, Obama again conceded he had exaggerated. "
 
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Wasting time by voting many multiple times to repeal the ACA when they knew neither the Senate nor Obama would go along shows how little those Republicans were interested in cooperating or governing.

They convinced their base over those years and now the Republicans have both houses and the White House. Their strategy of denying Obama any progress did seem to work for them. Why deny that it was their strategy?
You're joking?
What else were they to do?
 
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Wasting time by voting many multiple times to repeal the ACA when they knew neither the Senate nor Obama would go along shows how little those Republicans were interested in cooperating or governing.

They convinced their base over those years and now the Republicans have both houses and the White House. Their strategy of denying Obama any progress did seem to work for them. Why deny that it was their strategy?
Granite, that did become their strategy. The reality is that Obama was unable to deliver compromises because he wasn't willing to buck his base, and Boehner had the same problem with his tea party activists. Both made verbal agreements that they had to abandon, and the name calling ensued. Reid effectively destroyed any chance for open debate on any bills of import to the GOP, and Obama waged his non stop blame the Republicans in Congress for every failure. Divisiveness and partisanship became entrenched SOP and the only answers either party gave the American public was to blame the other in a non stop war of words. The public grew sick of this, and Trump and the year of the outsider is the result. If the Dems choose to continue on this path, I think they will suffer at the ballot box.
 
The Dems who pay attention are finding out that making a big deal of issues that effect a minuscule segment of the population, like the transgender bathroom question or the funding of Planned Parenthood, for example, is a recipe for extinction. The Reps are focused on the big issues that effect large segments of the population, like the economic growth, national security, immigration, health care costs, etc.

So, do you mean to advocate for the "Tyranny of the Majority" as a means for running the country? The Founders deliberately developed a representative form of government as one step toward avoiding such a system. Similar justification for developing the Senate (2 Senators per state( and the Electoral College so large states would not dictate all decisions.
 
So, do you mean to advocate for the "Tyranny of the Majority" as a means for running the country? The Founders deliberately developed a representative form of government as one step toward avoiding such a system. Similar justification for developing the Senate (2 Senators per state( and the Electoral College so large states would not dictate all decisions.

President Obama ran as the ""Tyranny of the Majority" boldly stating ..."I've got a pen, and I've got a phone"
As a supposed constitutional scholar he never felt Bound by it
 
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The public grew sick of this, and Trump and the year of the outsider is the result. If the Dems choose to continue on this path, I think they will suffer at the ballot box.

My memories and I disagree with much of your characterization.

And, if truly the year of the outsider, why did so many incumbents get re-elected? It is pretty clear that many votes were seeking a completely selfish outcome from the election, whether the "return" of jobs or "more" money from lower taxes, neither of which is likely if tariffs and other costs arer also raised. I expect, but hope not, that the country will suffer in the near future.

Even as the stock market increases betting on an improved economy, only approx. 55% of Americans have investments in stocks; how will the other 45% of Americans make out in the near future?
 
This does not make any sense at all.
Sure it does

The Democrats held 2/3rds of the political rule at the time
The Tea Party was growing as a alternative to the conservative voice yet the minority. President Obama seen this movement as the growing force and threat to his momentum with little resistance from the established conservative creating political oppression by the majority element acting through the democratic process
 
My memories and I disagree with much of your characterization.

And, if truly the year of the outsider, why did so many incumbents get re-elected? It is pretty clear that many votes were seeking a completely selfish outcome from the election, whether the "return" of jobs or "more" money from lower taxes, neither of which is likely if tariffs and other costs arer also raised. I expect, but hope not, that the country will suffer in the near future.

Even as the stock market increases betting on an improved economy, only approx. 55% of Americans have investments in stocks; how will the other 45% of Americans make out in the near future?
Incumbents in Congress get re elected because our congressional districts are gerrymandered. Incumbent Republicans ran against Obamacare and the disaster that was our foreign policy, and a pathetic economy. Outrage and disgust is better reflected at the national level, and we had an avowed socialist independent almost defeat the powerful Clinton and Bama political machines, and Trump a populist in Republican disguise killing every establishment candidate. If you're so concerned about who will benefit from a atrump economy, you should research who benefitted from the Obama economy, where the divide between rich and poor grew at a tremendous rate and where our middle class shrunk at an alarming rate. Enough said, we are looking through different lenses and nothing will change that. Perhaps we can agree that a strong vibrant growing middle class it is critical to our democracy and to our social fabric, and we can disagree on how to best accomplish this.
 
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Surely you know this to be fact:

From Politifact:

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Dip, post links it's much simpler to follow. Secondly, I'm still waiting for the fact the Admin knew it was a lie when drafting the legislation. Your earlier statement indicated it was a nefarious attempt to "trick" the American people. Anyone can call something that didn't happen a lie after the fact. By your same logic would you agree that Trump "LIED" when he told the sheep that Mexico would pay for the wall?
 
Ontario,
Medics, Field surgeons, and fighter pilots were indeed real heros. we Marines loved our Corpsmen
and all fighter pilots. Without the fighter pilots giving us support as we fought our way out of the Chosin
Reservoir, none of would be alive today !

Rgc7,

Thank you for your service as well. All of us that enjoy freedom here in the West are indebted to you for your sacrifice.

Thankfully, my grandfather is still with us and enjoying his retirement. Unfortunately, his brother, as well as my mom's uncle, have both passed. Three quick stories for you, however.

My grandfather went on to be a Lieutenant-Colonel and made his way up the ranks, eventually becoming one of the Canadian military's most respected orthopaedic surgeons. He loved everything about the military and being an officer. He served until forced retirement age and even in his mid 70's served as a chief consultant in the oversight of the training of many of the Canadian and American surgeons that had such immense success at forward surgical bases in Iraq and Afghanistan.

His brother, the med tech who lost his leg in Korea, was fitted with a prosthetic and although he never again served abroad, he continued his calling as a training officer at the Canadian combat medical school in Chilliwack British Columbia. Unfortunately, we lost him some years ago and he was buried next to his father, in Beachwood National Military Cemetery (similar to Arlington) in Ottawa.

My mom's uncle was actually British. My mom is a dual-citizen, who was born in Sterling, Scotland. Her uncle flew spitfires in opposition of Hitler in WW2. As the war raged on, Britain had a massive pilot shortage and called on their Commonwealth Allies to supply Britain with pilots to man their aircraft. My mother's uncle was one of the most experienced combat pilots left alive in Britain so they sent him to Canada to be one of the chief flight instructors at the aviation school they set up in Canada. He later returned to Britain and flew countless missions in the final defense of Britain. After the war, he and his brother (my mom's dad) decided to move to Canada for more opportunity and they were granted dual-citizenship. He then transferred to the RCAF, where he was among the lead flight instructors during it's establishment and he was sent back to war to lead the boys in Korea. After the war he retired and flew commercially for British Airways and was a flight instructor for Air Canada. He flew for 46 years, and proudly, never lost a passenger or crewmember on any of his aircraft. Had the pleasure of getting to know him before he passed. Impressive man. Very humble. Spoke 4 languages and was highly intelligent and very, very tough.
 
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