What would Father Hesburgh have done?
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This dust-up over Pence is much ado over nothing. Let Pence speak. Let the students whiteboard. No University should have a single point of view. Universities should encourage an open dialogue of multiple ideas, even Notre Dame.
There will be protests or complaints about any high profile speaker. I think even Pope Francis would be criticized.
Let em protest, who cares? But if they get violent - which is highly unlikely at ND - then Fr Ted's 15 minute rule applies.
There will be protests or complaints about any high profile speaker. I think even Pope Francis would be criticized.
Let em protest, who cares? But if they get violent - which is highly unlikely at ND - then Fr Ted's 15 minute rule applies.
Definitely and they all fall for it hook, line and sinker. I still want to hear Trump lead a prayer
funny thing.... Snowflakes sometimes state Pence is a misogynist. Also these same liberals think Bill Clinton was a stalwart for womens rights and prior generation of liberals thought that Ted Kennedy was a lion of the senate. the same man who allowed a young women to drown. Pence is more in line with Catholic values than the snowflakes.
It's too bad that the snowflakes get so much attention these days. There are still lots of brave young men and women, with metal in their character, who answer the call of duty everyday. There's a lot of them who work hard and earn their degree(s) and take up chosen careers. Others go out into the world and melt into the great pot we call America. There's a lot of good young men and women in this generation folks.
And a lot of of good young men and women (as well as some not-so-young men and women) know better than to devalue their arguments by name calling, i.e. "Snowflake," "Libtard," etc. Also, many of us liberals do think that Pence is a misogyinist because of what he has said and written but don't believe that Clinton was a stalwart for women's rights. As to Ted Kennedy being a lion of the senate, the fact is that he was. He was deeply troubled and allowing that young woman to drown was, at best, cowardly and, at worst, criminal. That being said, he was a towering figure in the Senate and accomplished a lot. Back then, there were towering figures on both sides of the aisle that were able to work with the other side. Nowadays, we have (for the most part) puppets that only serve their financial backers. I appreciate your opinion that Pence is more in line with Catholic values because: (a) it is your opinion; and (b) I gave up on Catholicism a long, long time ago so I don't really care.
Funny story, back when I was at NDLS, I asked the only priest I knew if he would marry my fiancé and myself. My wife-to-be really wanted to get married at the Basilica. He declined and explained that while he was confident that I believed in the institution of marriage, he wasn't as confident that I believed in the sacrament of marriage. I had to respectfully agree with him and, instead, found a drunk Irish priest to do the ceremony. We got married on a beautiful Fall day while the football team was playing up in Lansing. Almost 33 years later, the marriage is still thriving even though we are both apparently snowflakes and/or libtards.
Funny story, back when I was at NDLS, I asked the only priest I knew if he would marry my fiancé and myself. My wife-to-be really wanted to get married at the Basilica. He declined and explained that while he was confident that I believed in the institution of marriage, he wasn't as confident that I believed in the sacrament of marriage. I had to respectfully agree with him and, instead, found a drunk Irish priest to do the ceremony. We got married on a beautiful Fall day while the football team was playing up in Lansing. Almost 33 years later, the marriage is still thriving even though we are both apparently snowflakes and/or libtards.
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Duck,
Stop talking in generalities ! You do a lot of talking and don't say very much !
also cut out the " Do more research " nonsense ! If you do that, I will be happy to post further with you !
In answer to your last post ! I have a quote from Louis Armstrong in my office " Born Poor, died rich, and never hurt anyone along the way " , That is very inspirational to me !
I was poor and it was not a result of any mistakes ! I was born that way ! The poverty that I was born into was Extreme ,I did not blame anyone else for my problems. I worked hard , learned from my mistakes, and made my own way in life ! So please don't lecture me on poverty.
Under the Republicans, ...,,,,,, ? The Democrats have governed our inner cities for over 50 years on average.What have they done for the poor ? Zero ! Obama was the President for the past 8 years. He not only did zero, and was not only our worse President but also the most devisive !
Trump has only been President for a few months, so you have no crystal ball to tell exactly how his programs will turn out ? Only time and World events will determine that !
No need to live with it or ammend the Constitution, The Supreme Court will rule in Trump's favor !
Those Judges are a hell of a lot smarter than you are ? That is an assumption that you have no way of knowing ? undoubtablly, some may be smarter and others not ? As we both know, Judges were Lawyers,
who got politically appointed to be judges. Studying law does not make Judges smarter than any one else !
There are many people more intelligent than lawyers and judges in all walks of life ? I also have a number of lawyers and judges in my family and they are very intelligent. However, they may be my equals intellectually,
but no way are they superior !
The Catholic Church has been corrupted, Yes it has, much to my regret !
I find it offensive that my tax dollars are used to support Abortion, the murder of the innocent! much to my regret Colleges and Universities also have tax exempt status, I regret having my tax dollars go to them as well. my preference would be to do away with all tax exempt status. !
I find it even more offensive that some of my religious leader are more concerned with federal funds than with the teachings and examples of Christ !
Is the single defining value abortion? As a catholic don't you think there are more values than that. IS that the only value of merit. Even the Pope himself vehemently disagrees with the stances of his administration, so why are you acting like Pence on Campus is a no-brainer? There is a debate to be had and students should debate.
Name calling is the weapon of choice of the uninformed. Grade school mentality.
Hate to say it, but one can really tell who graduated from college and who didn't by the comments made in this thread. Very, very obvious.
That original priest was correct he saw that you were for everything but believed in nothing
Catholics support a president that has been twice divorced? Comrade Trumpsky's Communist cohorts would ban religion if he is not tried for treason first.
I love elitism.
Did not graduate from college
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Bill Gates
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You're 100% correct. Watching snowflakes / unwashed makes me wonder if Colleges are the way to go?
This is too good and I could resist no longer. These snowflakes need to grow up and act like serious college students. For your entertainment--let the video roll.
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In 10 years there will be a 20 per cent reduction in the number of colleges. Maybe more. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Act like whiny buttholes and no one wants to be around that vibe. Plus there is zero ROI on a college education now and the professors will have to take their liberal work ethic to Walmart
So Pence is a misogynist and Ted K. was a lion of the Senate. Wow. That is some rich stuff.
Add ND to the list of colleges that are filled w/ leftist professors & administrators (starting at the top) and snowflake 18-22 yr olds that usually have no clue what they're protesting. Protest to protest. Good plan. That's been perpetuated by the socialist community organizer we've had in office the last 8 yrs too. Maybe we should've invited reverend wright and the snowflake students would've cheered and been all warm & fuzzy inside when he shouted "god damn America has had its chickens come home to roost". I have no problem w/ the students speaking their mind but let's put in perspective that they're 18-22 years old and generally are full of shit at that age. I know I was, and most of my peers were too. Pence makes you feel unsafe? Don't worry snowflake, mommy & daddy will make sure little johnny & Susie are in a safe space. What a joke. Our generation has itself to blame for creating a bunch of fragile softies. Wait until they get into the real world and get steamrolled by the realities of life. Parents of this generation of kids should look in the mirror at that point.
There are 2 types of people who love use the phrase snowflake. The crotchety, older person who believes things will go back to the way they were in the 40s and 50s and resist change. Then there is the new age alt-righter who who things being conservative means they are up most outstanding human to walk the face of the earth and will resort to name calling to prove they are better.
Everywhere. See list of successful entrepreneurs and Presidents who did not graduate college. The argument and evidence for college providing ROI is weak. You can make the case but it is like saying Trump team colluded with Russia-- no eviddnce
Years ago, ok. Not anymore. Sure education will always have value and enrich a person. But ROI? Put the money u save on tuition into your career.
College has gone from a place to grow, learn and exchange ideas to a place that promulgates inaction and wimpiness. Sad
Mentioning "god" in a speech is pretty vague. His "god" and my "God" are not the same.
As you say - it's pandering.
4 year degree (business administration) at private college:
Cost 200k
Job prospect: Barrista at starbucks
6 month boot camp Java development:
Cost 6k
Job prospect: 150k anywhere, any company.
Who was the last President who did not graduate college?
A handful of entrepreneurs who did not graduate college is not evidence that there's no ROI on going to school.
No evidence for college providing ROI? This says otherwise: https://www.usnews.com/news/article...f-college-still-outweigh-costs-fed-study-says
I'd enjoy seeing you go to Notre Dame and telling all of those students there that they are wasting their money and are better off not going to school.
Then I guess we agree that a president mentioning "God" in a speech is a poor indication of whether a President is somehow more Christian than another President.
