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What is Landow's body count now?

I don't think he will get drafted in the 1st round. He has 1st round talent. 2 different points.

This is the dumbest point you've made and there's so many of them. Some of the best and most talented players in league history weren't drafted in the first rd.

Just an awful argument but not surprising coming from you
That’s not the issue.
You said that he had genuine first round talent
Players with genuine first round talent get drafted in the first round

The fact that players drafted subsequently turn out to be superstars is irrelevant
 
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That’s not the issue.
You said that he had genuine first round talent
Players with genuine first round talent get drafted in the first round

The fact that players drafted subsequently turn out to be superstars is irrelevant
Yeah you're wrong. There's plenty of guys with first round talent that don't go in the first rd for many reasons. Legal issues, injury issues etc.

NFL GMs are wrong a lot and also scouting and evaluating players is hard. Lot of talented players out there who are 1st rd talents end up not being drafted in the first rd for many reasons.
 
Yeah you're wrong. There's plenty of guys with first round talent that don't go in the first rd for many reasons. Legal issues, injury issues etc.

NFL GMs are wrong a lot and also scouting and evaluating players is hard. Lot of talented players out there who are 1st rd talents end up not being drafted in the first rd for many reasons.
But you're wrong far more than they are.
 
1st round talent he is not.
Yeah he's a first round talent. Doesn't mean he will go on the first round. We've said this back and forth how many times now? I don't know who you're more obsessed with, me or RL.

Do you want to keep going back and forth with the same thing over and over and over again. Can you come up with any original thoughts of your own or are you going to talk about this on every thread
 
Yeah you're wrong. There's plenty of guys with first round talent that don't go in the first rd for many reasons. Legal issues, injury issues etc.

NFL GMs are wrong a lot and also scouting and evaluating players is hard. Lot of talented players out there who are 1st rd talents end up not being drafted in the first rd for many reasons.
If they have injury issues, that almost automatically disqualifies them as being deemed first round talent

Since you stated that there were plenty of them, you should have no problem naming 10 guys with first round talent who had legal issues.

You don’t have a clue as to how NFL teams evaluate talent

Stop pretending that you know what you’re talking about
 
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1st round talent he is not.
NDinNJ,

You have to understand that Golson5 is incapable of admitting when he’s wrong and he’s wrong about RL.

I wish that he was right, but in this case, unfortunately he’s wrong
 
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If they have injury issues, that almost automatically disqualifies them as being deemed first round talent

Since you stated that there were plenty of them, you should have no problem naming 10 guys with first round talent who had legal issues.

You don’t have a clue as to how NFL teams evaluate talent

Stop pretending that you know what you’re talking about
I said legal issues, injury issues etc. Learn how to read. I have more nfl draft knowledge than certainly you

I already named Tyreek Hill. Absolutely a 1st round talent but went in the 5th. He's a first ballot hall of famer because he's ridiculously talented. Easily a 1st rd talent. If you say he wasn't you're an absolute moron
 
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NDinNJ,

You have to understand that Golson5 is incapable of admitting when he’s wrong and he’s wrong about RL.

I wish that he was right, but in this case, unfortunately he’s wrong
I agree, I wish he was right as well, but we deal in reality.
 
Yeah he's a first round talent. Doesn't mean he will go on the first round. We've said this back and forth how many times now? I don't know who you're more obsessed with, me or RL.

Do you want to keep going back and forth with the same thing over and over and over again. Can you come up with any original thoughts of your own or are you going to talk about this on every thread
Your stupidity knows no boundaries. It's comical at this point how dumb you are.
 
Yeah he's a first round talent. Doesn't mean he will go on the first round. We've said this back and forth how many times now? I don't know who you're more obsessed with, me or RL.

Do you want to keep going back and forth with the same thing over and over and over again. Can you come up with any original thoughts of your own or are you going to talk about this on every thread
Agree with this.

NJ- your trashing threads man. Let's talk ND.

We win the next 2, then we realistically start talking about the pathway to 11-1.

Let's hope like hell that RL goes crazy and plays himself into a draft pick.
 
Your stupidity knows no boundaries. It's comical at this point how dumb you are.
Cool story. Do you have any original thoughts of your own or anything of substance to add. You're obsessed. You're embarrassing yourself
 
Agree with this.

NJ- your trashing threads man. Let's talk ND.

We win the next 2, then we realistically start talking about the pathway to 11-1.

Let's hope like hell that RL goes crazy and plays himself into a draft pick.
First off, I never even responded to Golson5, I responded to PatIrish, and Golson5 decided to interject himself with a comment. I'm not the one trashing threads, Golson5 is with his ludicrous comments.

As for ND, I hope ND runs the table and Riley Leonard plays like a Heisman candidate, but I live in the real world, not some fantasy land, and the performance of the offense and QB to date tells me this team is not a playoff team. The schedule gives ND an easier path to 11-1, but there are a couple of obstacles in the way, unless they can get the offense fixed. Even if they do manage to finish 11-1 with how one dimensional the offense is due to QB limitations, once ND faces a top 10 team in the playoffs, they will force ND to throw over the top, and ND won't be able to.

Initially, I was against the MF hiring, wasn't a fan of hiring first time HC, due to ND's historic results in modern day college football with first time HC's. ND made the hire, so there was nothing any of us could do but be positive and hope MF will be successful. I like what he's done with most of his coaching hires, and his recruiting, but we are now in year 3 and the program is losing to MAC teams. He got a pass in year 1, but year 3 of the same old same old is telling me MF is not the answer. Maybe he turns it around, and I hope he does, but the odds are against it.

I live in reality, Golson5 believing Riley Leonard is a first round talent is fantasy land, and I have every right to call that fool out on his stupidity. As I said it's comical at this point with him. To me I'm just having fun with it now.
 
Yet another thread hijacked by a dick measuring contest.
 
First off, I never even responded to Golson5, I responded to PatIrish, and Golson5 decided to interject himself with a comment. I'm not the one trashing threads, Golson5 is with his ludicrous comments.

As for ND, I hope ND runs the table and Riley Leonard plays like a Heisman candidate, but I live in the real world, not some fantasy land, and the performance of the offense and QB to date tells me this team is not a playoff team. The schedule gives ND an easier path to 11-1, but there are a couple of obstacles in the way, unless they can get the offense fixed. Even if they do manage to finish 11-1 with how one dimensional the offense is due to QB limitations, once ND faces a top 10 team in the playoffs, they will force ND to throw over the top, and ND won't be able to.

Initially, I was against the MF hiring, wasn't a fan of hiring first time HC, due to ND's historic results in modern day college football with first time HC's. ND made the hire, so there was nothing any of us could do but be positive and hope MF will be successful. I like what he's done with most of his coaching hires, and his recruiting, but we are now in year 3 and the program is losing to MAC teams. He got a pass in year 1, but year 3 of the same old same old is telling me MF is not the answer. Maybe he turns it around, and I hope he does, but the odds are against it.

I live in reality, Golson5 believing Riley Leonard is a first round talent is fantasy land, and I have every right to call that fool out on his stupidity. As I said it's comical at this point with him. To me I'm just having fun with it now.
NJ- c'mon. You know this isn't how grown men act. You're acing like a little kid playing games on the internet with your anonymous name. You've become obsessed w personal attacks via the internet. It's almost like you use this site as an outlet to cover for voids in your life or extreme boredom.

We can't have a thread here without you coming in and going after posters and even Leonard.

Take a moment and really look at the content you contribute here. It's not how men are supposed to act.

If we were live and in-person, you would never act like this. You know it too.
 
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NJ- c'mon. You know this isn't how grown men act. You're acing like a little kid playing games on the internet with your anonymous name. You've become obsessed w personal attacks via the internet. It's almost like you use this site as an outlet to cover for voids in your life or extreme boredom.

We can't have a thread here without you coming in and going after posters and even Leonard.

Take a moment and really look at the content you contribute here. It's not how men are supposed to act.

If we were live and in-person, you would never act like this. You know it too.
Thanks dad.
 
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I said legal issues, injury issues etc. Learn how to read. I have more nfl draft knowledge than certainly you

I already named Tyreek Hill. Absolutely a 1st round talent but went in the 5th. He's a first ballot hall of famer because he's ridiculously talented. Easily a 1st rd talent. If you say he wasn't you're an absolute moron
And I cited legal issues and injury issues, you’re the one who needs to learn how to read.

As to you having more knowledge about the NFL draft than me, that’s really funny,
You don’t have a clue as to what you’re talking about.
How many NFL team owners, GM’s, Presidents and coaches have you discussed their drafting methodology with ?

What made Tyrek Hill a # 1 draft choice in 2016 ?
 
Just like Patty, its a match made in heaven
ChiTown, since you brought me into it, My arguments tend to be fact based, and my logic, geometric like, whereas you and others tend to be uninformed and overly driven by your fragile emotions
 
NJ- c'mon. You know this isn't how grown men act. You're acing like a little kid playing games on the internet with your anonymous name. You've become obsessed w personal attacks via the internet. It's almost like you use this site as an outlet to cover for voids in your life or extreme boredom.

We can't have a thread here without you coming in and going after posters and even Leonard.

Take a moment and really look at the content you contribute here. It's not how men are supposed to act.

If we were live and in-person, you would never act like this. You know it too.
My attacks are in direct response to Golson5's attacks. I can't even respond on another posters comment without Golson5 interjecting himself into the conversation.
 
Whatever we’re doing needs questioned

But I’m sure freeman will attack it and fix it like he’s never been able to do with anything
 
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Yes, somehow Marcus Freeman is losing to Northern Illinois at home, the weekend you disappeared for days.
I wasn't on for 2 days lol.

Yet somehow he's winning 74% of his games and has 9 top 25 wins in 2.5 years.

Kelly had 9 in his last 4 years
 
yesterday was like Duke last year, a win but it’s a sign the team isn’t improving and may be regressing
Nope. Last year we lost to Louisville by double digits and got manhandled by them.

This year we beat them by 7 and led for 52 minutes of the game.
 
I wasn't on for 2 days lol.

Yet somehow he's winning 74% of his games and has 9 top 25 wins in 2.5 years.

Kelly had 9 in his last 4 years
When you lose to Northern Illinois at home, being in every thread telling us how great this team is, and how wonderful Marcus Freeman is, seems a bit much.
 
When you lose to Northern Illinois at home, being in every thread telling us how great this team is, and how wonderful Marcus Freeman is, seems a bit much.
I never said the team is great or that MF is great. You must be inferring that because you only bring up that negative. So if I'm being positive it seems that I'm saying they are great when I haven't.

But people on here talking like the team is garbage and MF is garbage is just silly and ridiculous. So when people talk stupid I'm going to step up
 
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I never said the team is great or that MF is great. You must be inferring that because you only bring up that negative. So if I'm being positive it seems that I'm saying they are great when I haven't.

But people on here talking like the team is garbage and MF is garbage is just silly and ridiculous. So when people talk stupid I'm going to step up
That’s fair. OK.

Good post.

I also have a bigger problem with the get nasty posters trashing the program.
 
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