What does this quote say about ND QB play under Freeman?

[NDblitz]

"Just want to play within the offense. We don't need anything spectacular," Freeman said to NBC sideline reporter Zora Stephenson. "Do exactly what your coaches tell you to do, play within the game plan and the rest will take care of itself. If we start trying to make plays and throw the ball down the field, then all of a sudden we're playing out of character. Just do exactly what we want you to do and the rest will take care of itself."

 

[chaseball]

"Just want to play within the offense. We don't need anything spectacular," Freeman said to NBC sideline reporter Zora Stephenson. "Do exactly what your coaches tell you to do, play within the game plan and the rest will take care of itself. If we start trying to make plays and throw the ball down the field, then all of a sudden we're playing out of character. Just do exactly what we want you to do and the rest will take care of itself."

I really wouldn't put too much weight on anything a coach says to a sideline reporter. But to answer your question: that the starting QB isn't good/talented enough and is a game manager not a playmaker.

 

[88ND]

That the QBs on the roster aren't talented enough and are game managers not playmakers.

Maybe...

Maybe not.

Let's not automatically extend the coaches aren't timid and tentative here and or even picking the right guy.

We witnessed a previous coach who now resides in the south with a fake accent pick the wrong QB for nearly a decade.

Don't make me do it....

 

[chaseball]

Maybe...

Maybe not.

Let's not automatically extend the coaches aren't timid and tentative here and or even picking the right guy.

We witnessed a previous coach who now resides in the south with a fake accent pick the wrong QB for nearly a decade.

Don't make me do it....

You call it pick the wrong QB for nearly a decade. I call it make lemonade with lemons for nearly a decade.

Is it mere coincidence that BK goes to LSU, and turns the highest rated QB he ever had (Jayden Daniels) in his career into a top 5 draft pick and heisman trophy winner?

 

[88ND]

You call it pick the wrong QB for nearly a decade. I call it make lemonade with lemons for nearly a decade.

Is it mere coincidence that he goes to LSU, and turns the highest rated QB he ever had in his career into a top 5 draft pick and heisman trophy winner?

He did pick the wrong guy.
While you were wallowing in your f+P+lbgt thing you do...
That coach repeatedly had the bwtter QB on the sideline

as for his little lightning in a bottle last year...
When you do something lomg enough you get lucky once in a while.

A dog who lives lomg enough gets a warm piece of the sidewalk once or twice in that life.

 

[NDblitz]

Why bring Riley Leonard in to play "Tressel Ball" ? Why change OCs for that matter?

 

[mbd11]

Why bring Riley Leonard in to play "Tressel Ball" ? Why change OCs for that matter?

Parker left for a HC job and we had to replace him.

But as far as Tressel ball, they had that star QB Terrell Pryor at the end of his tenure, who was a huge recruit. Nothing wrong with having a talented QB in a ball control offense. Harbaugh did it with Andrew Luck and later with JJ McCarthy, with great success.

 

[chaseball]

Parker left for a HC job and we had to replace him.

But as far as Tressel ball, they had that star QB Terrell Pryor at the end of his tenure, who was a huge recruit. Nothing wrong with having a talented QB in a ball control offense. Harbaugh did it with Andrew Luck and later with JJ McCarthy, with great success.

Parker was really under appreciated last season. NDs offense improved from like the 30s in OF+ in 2022 to top 15 in OF+ in 2023 back down to #32 in OF+ in 2024 (still very early though).

BTW: I'm using "OF+" because the metric is luck and opponent adjusted.

 

[mbd11]

Parker was really under appreciated last season. NDs offense improved from like the 30s in OF+ in 2022 to top 15 in OF+ in 2023 back down to #32 in OF+ in 2024 (still very early though).

BTW: I'm using "OF+" because the metric is luck and opponent adjusted.

And we didn't have any head-scratching losses to completely inferior teams under Parker's offense. We blew those kinds of teams out. Our only losses were to Ohio State on a last minute touchdown, and on the road against quality opponents in Clemson and Louisville.

 

[Chitown11]

You call it pick the wrong QB for nearly a decade. I call it make lemonade with lemons for nearly a decade.

Is it mere coincidence that BK goes to LSU, and turns the highest rated QB he ever had (Jayden Daniels) in his career into a top 5 draft pick and heisman trophy winner?

Parker was really under appreciated last season. NDs offense improved from like the 30s in OF+ in 2022 to top 15 in OF+ in 2023 back down to #32 in OF+ in 2024 (still very early though).

BTW: I'm using "OF+" because the metric is luck and opponent adjusted.

you know what you can do with that bat shit stupid F+ and now OF+, WTF?

 

[tbonesays]

And we didn't have any head-scratching losses to completely inferior teams under Parker's offense. We blew those kinds of teams out. Our only losses were to Ohio State on a last minute touchdown, and on the road against quality opponents in Clemson and Louisville.

I count two head scratching losses there and three poor offensive performances. Parker's offense was inconsistent (at best) against good teams. That may not have been all his fault but he should not have been put in that position.

 

[88ND]

Parker left for a HC job and we had to replace him.

But as far as Tressel ball, they had that star QB Terrell Pryor at the end of his tenure, who was a huge recruit. Nothing wrong with having a talented QB in a ball control offense. Harbaugh did it with Andrew Luck and later with JJ McCarthy, with great success.

Two huge names right there making the huge difference.
J.J. McCarthy and Luck could throw the ball down the field if needed.

You can call the 3 yard curl and sit route all gand but at some point if you must go down field with a big pass it mist get done.

Riley can't make that throw no matter the circumstances.

If any team remaining on our schedule goes up by 14 points in the second half it's over. No matter the opponent.

That's a sad but true reality at this point.

Angeli for president!!

 

[mbd11]

I count two head scratching losses there and three poor offensive performances. Parker's offense was inconsistent (at best) against good teams. That may not have been all his fault but he should not have been put in that position.

There's a huge difference between struggling on the road at Louisville (played in ACC championship game) and Clemson (perennial power; always very tough at home), and struggling against a MAC team.

Against MAC caliber teams under Parker, our offense never struggled. We had 580 yds on CMU last year. We also had over 500 yds on teams like Stanford and Pitt as well.

We took care of business against lesser teams.

 

[mbd11]

Two huge names right there making the huge difference.
J.J. McCarthy and Luck could throw the ball down the field if needed.

You can call the 3 yard curl and sit route all gand but at some point if you must go down field with a big pass it mist get done.

Riley can't make that throw no matter the circumstances.

If any team remaining on our schedule goes up by 14 points in the second half it's over. No matter the opponent.

That's a sad but true reality at this point.

Angeli for president!!

CJ Carr may have Luck or McCarthy kind of talent; we don't know yet. But it's doubtful he plays much this year, probably.

 

[burmafrd1943]

You call it pick the wrong QB for nearly a decade. I call it make lemonade with lemons for nearly a decade.

Is it mere coincidence that BK goes to LSU, and turns the highest rated QB he ever had (Jayden Daniels) in his career into a top 5 draft pick and heisman trophy winner?

did he recruit Daniels?

 

[NDinNJ]

"Just want to play within the offense. We don't need anything spectacular," Freeman said to NBC sideline reporter Zora Stephenson. "Do exactly what your coaches tell you to do, play within the game plan and the rest will take care of itself. If we start trying to make plays and throw the ball down the field, then all of a sudden we're playing out of character. Just do exactly what we want you to do and the rest will take care of itself."

This could be coach speak for we don't want him forcing things, and he's got a point when you try to force throws, etc. that's when the mistakes happen.

 

[BGI User 1596]

did he recruit Daniels?

No

 

[tbonesays]

There's a huge difference between struggling on the road at Louisville (played in ACC championship game) and Clemson (perennial power; always very tough at home), and struggling against a MAC team.

Against MAC caliber teams under Parker, our offense never struggled. We had 580 yds on CMU last year. We also had over 500 yds on teams like Stanford and Pitt as well.

We took care of business against lesser teams.

We don't know if NIU is better than those teams or not, nor whether Hartman is better than RL.

 

[mbd11]

We don't know if NIU is better than those teams or not, nor whether Hartman is better than RL.

I'm very confident NIU's not better than those teams. NIU = Marshall IMO - a decent G5 team that had no business beating us.

 

[Get Nasty]

"Just want to play within the offense. We don't need anything spectacular," Freeman said to NBC sideline reporter Zora Stephenson. "Do exactly what your coaches tell you to do, play within the game plan and the rest will take care of itself. If we start trying to make plays and throw the ball down the field, then all of a sudden we're playing out of character. Just do exactly what we want you to do and the rest will take care of itself."

It's a quote, whatever. This does look like a jim tressel quote/approach.

I'm less concerned about a quote, and more concerned about a coach that has had 3 different OCs, 4 different QBs, and the offenses are very very similar. We aren't focused on recruiting the skilled positions like we were.

RB and WR recruiting this cycle are atrocious.

 

[NDinNJ]

"Just want to play within the offense. We don't need anything spectacular," Freeman said to NBC sideline reporter Zora Stephenson. "Do exactly what your coaches tell you to do, play within the game plan and the rest will take care of itself. If we start trying to make plays and throw the ball down the field, then all of a sudden we're playing out of character. Just do exactly what we want you to do and the rest will take care of itself."

The reality is there is nothing wrong with what Freeman said. They are playing NIU. Fact is ND is a far more talented team than NIU. ND should not have to do anything spectacular to beat NIU.

 

[buckey]

"Just want to play within the offense. We don't need anything spectacular," Freeman said to NBC sideline reporter Zora Stephenson. "Do exactly what your coaches tell you to do, play within the game plan and the rest will take care of itself. If we start trying to make plays and throw the ball down the field, then all of a sudden we're playing out of character. Just do exactly what we want you to do and the rest will take care of itself."

That’s a scary statement. So not the coaches fault or gameplan, it’s overconfident players. Did he just throw players under the bus?

 

[NDblitz]

That’s a scary statement. So not the coaches fault or gameplan, it’s overconfident players. Did he just throw players under the bus?

Riley Leonard is a bit of a gunslinger. I just wonder if they are trying too hard t
o make him a pocket passer and that's why he looks so off.

 

[Harpo Marxist]

Not alot has been said about the two blocked field goals. Sure, the 62 yarder was not likely anyway...but it seems the NIU defensive front just physically overpowered the center of the offensive line. That was not a good look and raises even more questions. The first kick was the difference in winning and losing the game.

 

[sjb75]

Not alot has been said about the two blocked field goals. Sure, the 62 yarder was not likely anyway...but it seems the NIU defensive front just physically overpowered the center of the offensive line. That was not a good look and raises even more questions. The first kick was the difference in winning and losing the game.

If you are Notre Dame, don't expect to make a 62 and 48-yard field goal.

NIU missed a 53-yard FG.

 

[FightingIrish44]

Not alot has been said about the two blocked field goals. Sure, the 62 yarder was not likely anyway...but it seems the NIU defensive front just physically overpowered the center of the offensive line. That was not a good look and raises even more questions. The first kick was the difference in winning and losing the game.

And the first was “only” 48 yards so not that long of a kick. I wonder what the issue is. It was probably kicked too low.

 

[FightingIrish44]

If you are Notre Dame, don't expect to make a 62 and 48-yard field goal.

NIU missed a 53-yard FG.

It’s the 48 yarder being easily blocked that’s the issue.

 

[sjb75]

It’s the 48 yarder being easily blocked that’s the issue.

There were way more issues to concern yourself with than FG blocking.

 

[FightingIrish44]

There were way more issues to concern yourself with than FG blocking.

Yes, but they all add up to winning and losing. Gotta fix em all.

 

[Harpo Marxist]

There were way more issues to concern yourself with than FG blocking.

So....a 17-16 Notre Dame victory wouldn't have changed the conversation? OK....got it.

 

[tbonesays]

I'm very confident NIU's not better than those teams. NIU = Marshall IMO - a decent G5 team that had no business beating us.

Not Clemson, I meant the other hapless teams against which Parker printed gaudy stats. 2024 NIU could and probably is better than #109 CMU or #89 Stanford

Not alot has been said about the two blocked field goals. Sure, the 62 yarder was not likely anyway...but it seems the NIU defensive front just physically overpowered the center of the offensive line. That was not a good look and raises even more questions. The first kick was the difference in winning and losing the game.

Alls I have to say is that we tried a 62 yd fg instead of a Hail Mary.

 

[mbd11]

Not Clemson, I meant the other hapless teams against which Parker printed gaudy stats. 2024 NIU could and probably is better than #109 CMU or #89 Stanford

We also had 456 yds on a good NC State defense last year, and 468 on Oregon State. Although the Oregon State game offensive plays were called by some other assistant, since Parker was gone already.