Way to many negative plays
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Sloppy game. Very frustrating to watch ND blow several chances to break the game wide open. The last two scores by IU were unacceptable. I will never understand how you play such good defense through 56 minutes and then play like you just walked onto a field for the first time. Well I am happy they win but Georgia is a different animal. Gotta play better on offense to win that game.
A good team does not belong in the playoffs. There are a lot of "good teams". A good defense does not surrender 400 total yards.
Clemson went 15-0 in 2018 and gave up over 500 yards to Alabama in the championship game. There is still time to delete this ydkb
With 12 teams they're not all going to be "great". There's about 4-6 that you could consider in that vein IMO. The remainder are "good".
We have a good defense and surrendered nearly 600 against USC.
Alabama is good. Colorado is good. To make the 12 you should be more than just good.
Can't you guys let us enjoy the win for a day or two?
When healthy, this defense meets every definition of great. No team is healthy at this point in the season.
Sure they do. 400 yards isn't a big number. You're acting like that is a ton of yards for some weird reason. We average 40ppg. They held us to 27 points and 394 yards
What teams with good defenses should have been in over them?
Alabama gave up 418 yards to Vanderbilt. 408 to Tennessee. 519 to Georgia. 399 to Auburn. Is that good? Is that playoff worthy?
How about Ole Miss. 421 to LSU. 492 to Arkansas YIKES. Playoff Worthy?
Miami gave up 479 to Syracuse and yards and points to a lot of teams that I don't need to look up. Playoff worthy ?
Who are these great teams that haven't given up 394 yards to a Playoff team who scored 40a game
Really stupid point here
I said "A good defense does not surrender 400 total yards". Bama does not have a really good defense. Again, I said a "really good defense" does not give up 400
Yes, when healthy. This version of the ND defense is not great. Fun to watch but not great.
We have surrendered 400 yards this year. Are we not really good?
Ohio State has surrendered over 400 yards this year. Are they not really good?
Oregon has surrendered over 400 yards
Penn state has
Georgia has
Ole Miss has
Bama has
Who are these good defenses you speak of?
Again, you said IU has a really good defense. I said NO they do not. I said a really good defense does not give up 400 yards. No, ND does not have a really good defense. This is due to injuries and youth.
Again, I said IU does NOT have a "really good defense". A really good defense does not surrender 400 yards.
As Lou used to say...those guys have scholarship players too.
Give it a rest. Indiana's defense is pretty damned good. It proved it all year. I don't care if their schedule was weak. So was ours, and our defense proved itself to be damned good, too, despite lots and lots of injuries.
The defense is going to carry this ND team as far as it goes. The offense will be asked to do enough to win the game. Saying it all year, the offense is one dimensional.
Riley Leonard isn't a good passing QB, he's very average if not below average. I was at the game and we were seeing open receivers and literally saying there it is and it took RL 2-3 seconds after we said it to throw it.
Riley Leonard isn't a good passing QB, he's very average if not below average. I was at the game and we were seeing open receivers and literally saying there it is and it took RL 2-3 seconds after we said it to throw it.
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As long as you say no team in cfb has a really good defense then I would agree
But if we are judging it against the rest of cfb then yes they do
I agree with most of what you said, except that the O is 1D. RL can run, throw short, and scramble. Not a deep passer and, to your point, not the best pocket awareness.
But the OL and backs can be effective. Play action targets like Faison too. The TAMU game comes to mind. The O helped enough for the D carry the team...which I think you are dead right about.
For me, it will come down to Denbrock putting the O in the best position to do enough.
No chance, the offense will need to step up in a big way to have a chance at a natty. We’ll go as far as RL takes us. The defense will hold its own but with all the injuries can’t do it alone against the Oregon, OH St, Texas of the world. As shown against USC, they are vulnerable and the O/passing game will need to be better.
I have nothing against Leonard, but the hype around him as a dual threat 1st round talent was way overhyped. He's been serviceable and helped the offense score enough to win games, but the defense has been carrying this team all year.
You are hung up on the 1st round talent comment by Golson.
He isn't a complete QB but his ability to run is a nightmare for defenses.
To call him serviceable is a joke. He is a winner.
It feels like some won’t be satisfied with him until he ends up in the NFL hall of fame.
