UVA is a good football team

[IrishExpert2288]

Coming off a big road 24-19 win over Top 20 PItt, Malachi Fields is really good WR, Chris Tyree is coming back to town and we know what he can do if you fall asleep. For us old guys we have seen ND in National Championship contention only to stub their toe is the final home game of the regular season. Lou Holtz would be looking at probably 3 National Titles had ND #1 not gotten upset at home in 1990 vs Penn State, and 1993 vs BC.

Marcus Freeman only real short coming so far in his young, but promising career, has been his football teams playing flat at home vs unranked opponents. With that said Marcus seems to be doing a great job of using the N Illionis game to keep this team humble and motivated to take care of teams they should beat.

Looking forward to see ND take care of business at home, then head out to take on Army and USC in the Coliseum. (PS another game that gives old guys acid indigestion every time) Go Irish

 

[sjb75]

Coming off a big road 24-19 win over Top 20 PItt, Malachi Fields is really good WR, Chris Tyree is coming back to town and we know what he can do if you fall asleep. For us old guys we have seen ND in National Championship contention only to stub their toe is the final home game of the regular season. Lou Holtz would be looking at probably 3 National Titles had ND #1 not gotten upset at home in 1990 vs Penn State, and 1993 vs BC.

Marcus Freeman only real short coming so far in his young, but promising career, has been his football teams playing flat at home vs unranked opponents. With that said Marcus seems to be doing a great job of using the N Illionis game to keep this team humble and motivated to take care of teams they should beat.

Looking forward to see ND take care of business at home, then head out to take on Army and USC in the Coliseum. (PS another game that gives old guys acid indigestion every time) Go Irish

Virginia isn’t a “good” football team relative to the top 25 in CFB. Pitt had no business being ranked top 20, they have defeated no one that was anywhere near the top 25, and Virginia isn’t much better.

Virginia is simply an average to even below aversge CFB team, IMO, who would struggle to win any game against the very bottom of the SEC.

 

[Irish_inPSU]

I hope I'm right in saying that VA and Army don't bother me. If we show up and take care of business, those two games should be put away by the third quarter. But we all know the bad habit of playing down to opponents we've had.

That said, USC terrifies me. I don't think they're great, but they aint bad either and they always have plenty of talent to go around. Its a winnable game for sure, but we better show up and be prepared to play all four quarters. The fact that USC will be playing spoiler is what bothers me most.

 

[savvyandsassier]

Yeah, I suppose. Pitt was obviously pretty good. So beating them would certainly be an indicator that UVA is also pretty good, or can be. At this point, I would assert, forget about SOS, just go 11-1. At platitudinous as that sounds. So if UVA is getting hot, and rounding into form, then we need to be up for this game. It's funny, I wonder if the team was 'up' for FSU, just because they're FSU, in a way. So even though the game was never going to be in doubt, even before it was played, there could still be a letdown given what a dominant, satisfying performance it was. And now we play UVA, who does have their shit together, certainly much more than hapless, broken FSU does, and they could catch us with our pants down!

 

[BM16]

Notre Dame's schedule has worked out in a way probably no one expected this year. Everyone circled FSU as the marquee game, FSU was finished after four weeks.

But they've beaten three teams that have quality wins on their schedule:

Texas A&M-beat LSU
Louisville-beat Clemson
Georgia Tech-beat Miami

 

[Golson5]

Virginia is a solid team. If we don't show up it will be a 4 quarter game

If we come ready to go we should have our backups in the 4th

 

[savvyandsassier]

Notre Dame's schedule has worked out in a way probably no one expected this year. Everyone circled FSU as the marquee game, FSU was finished after four weeks.

But they've beaten three teams that have quality wins on their schedule:

Texas A&M-beat LSU
Louisville-beat Clemson
Georgia Tech-beat Miami

That's like, once removed type shit. And if you're going to take it any further you need to get a mathematician, or a 'quant'. I always thought of SOS simply as, well, did you play against good teams? Yeah, I think so, how can I tell? Well, we have to look at the teams they played, because what if all they played against was shitty teams like you're worried you might have? And then it just goes on ad infinitum. There's probably some obscure mathematical principle that could be employed to break the intellectual impasse that the circular logic inherent to indefinite use of the transitive principle creates. But that would be so profoundly far removed from the glory and the spoils typically associated with victory on the battlefield, it would make baby Jesus cry, even though Jesus hates fighting. Actually there probably isn't. Otherwise it would totally be used by sports geeks already, if not the committee itself.

That's why it would be preferable to just have all automatic bids, and the only thing that matters is winning and losing, and not how 'good' you are, and certainly not whether you 'deserve' one, which is the worst. The very concept of 'desert', that of deserving something, by some ultimately subjective, intangible criteria and thus receiving it, couldn't be any more the stone polar opposite, of imposing your will on a vanquished foe. Might is right, baby! And nobody else does that anywhere in sports, and that's why. Because it sucks, and is bullshit. It's just intuitive, and an insult to the natural competitive impulse. You gotta win, and you know what you need to do and can control your own destiny. The committee robs you of that. They're like roman emperors, giving the thumbs up or thumbs down. And we're the heaving mob in the colosseum.

 

[IrishExpert2288]

I hope I'm right in saying that VA and Army don't bother me. If we show up and take care of business, those two games should be put away by the third quarter. But we all know the bad habit of playing down to opponents we've had.

That said, USC terrifies me. I don't think they're great, but they aint bad either and they always have plenty of talent to go around. Its a winnable game for sure, but we better show up and be prepared to play all four quarters. The fact that USC will be playing spoiler is what bothers me most.

1980 bugs me. ND was 9-0-1 and had already accepted a bid to play #1 Georgia in the Sugar Bowl for the National Championship. ND went out to the Coliseum to play a 7-2-1 USC teams that was on a 2 game losing streak and got smoked 20-3.

Of course the USC roster had Marcus Allen, Roy Foster, Don Mosebar, Bruce Matthews, Keith Van Horne, Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith, Chip Banks, Joey Browner.

 

[sjb75]

That's like, once removed type shit. And if you're going to take it any further you need to get a mathematician, or a 'quant'. I always thought of SOS simply as, well, did you play against good teams? Yeah, I think so, how can I tell? Well, we have to look at the teams they played, because what if all they played against was shitty teams like you're worried you might have? And then it just goes on ad infinitum. There's probably some obscure mathematical principle that could be employed to break the intellectual impasse that the circular logic inherent to indefinite use of the transitive principle creates. But that would be so profoundly far removed from the glory and the spoils typically associated with victory on the battlefield, it would make baby Jesus cry, even though Jesus hates fighting. Actually there probably isn't. Otherwise it would totally be used by sports geeks already, if not the committee itself.

That's why it would be preferable to just have all automatic bids, and the only thing that matters is winning and losing, and not how 'good' you are, and certainly not whether you 'deserve' one, which is the worst. The very concept of 'desert', that of deserving something, by some ultimately subjective, intangible criteria and thus receiving it, couldn't be any more the stone polar opposite, of imposing your will on a vanquished foe. Might is right, baby! And nobody else does that anywhere in sports, and that's why. Because it sucks, and is bullshit. It's just intuitive, and an insult to the natural competitive impulse. You gotta win, and you know what you need to do and can control your own destiny. The committee robs you of that. They're like roman emperors, giving the thumbs up or thumbs down. And we're the heaving mob in the colosseum.

bizarre.

 

[NDblitz]

USC is ranked 18 in ESPN FPI. UVA is a solid team. Beating Pitt at Pitt should get NDs attention. Army is not as athletic as Navy but they are tougher and more physical imo.

 

[sjb75]

USC is ranked 18 in ESPN FPI. UVA is a solid team. Beating Pitt at Pitt should get NDs attention. Army is not as athletic as Navy but they are tougher and more physical imo.

Attention? When you lose in South Bend to to MAC crappy Northern Illinois, anyone should get Notre Dame’s attention.

 

[jerbach]

Attention? When you lose in South Bend to to MAC crappy Northern Illinois, anyone should get Notre Dame’s attention.

While your point is well taken, I would argue that NIU was a more dangerous team than present perceptions would indicate. They were coming off a very good win in the first game, probably spent a good deal of time and effort during the lead up to the season planning for Notre Dame and could "make their season" for years to come by beating ND in its own stadium. ND was obviously flat after all the effort and energy it put into the TAMU game. A perfect trap game. While Leonard played poorly, what really blows my mind were the two blocked field goal attempts. Inexcusable.

 

[sjb75]

While your point is well taken, I would argue that NIU was a more dangerous team than present perceptions would indicate. They were coming off a very good win in the first game, probably spent a good deal of time and effort during the lead up to the season planning for Notre Dame and could "make their season" for years to come by beating ND in its own stadium. ND was obviously flat after all the effort and energy it put into the TAMU game. A perfect trap game. While Leonard played poorly, what really blows my mind were the two blocked field goal attempts. Inexcusable.

Blocked Field Goals? One was over 50 yards.

When you score 14 points and lose in South Bend against a crappy NIU team that recently lost to Buffalo, Toledo, and Ball State, please don’t make excuses.

Trap game? LMAO.

 

[jerbach]

Blocked Field Goals? One was over 50 yards.

When you score 14 points and lose in South Bend against a crappy NIU team that recently lost to Buffalo, Toledo, and Ball State, please don’t make excuses.

Trap game? LMAO.

Nobody was making excuses. The game should not have been close, but recognizing some factors that could come into play will help avoid similar defeats in the future. Obviously, we didn't learn our lesson from the Marshall game either. Unfortunately I was at both of those games.

 

[echowaker]

Attention? When you lose in South Bend to to MAC crappy Northern Illinois, anyone should get Notre Dame’s attention.

Dead horse alert.

 

[echowaker]

Blocked Field Goals? One was over 50 yards.

When you score 14 points and lose in South Bend against a crappy NIU team that recently lost to Buffalo, Toledo, and Ball State, please don’t make excuses.

Trap game? LMAO.

Dead horse alert.

 

[Telx1]

Virginia is a solid team. If we don't show up it will be a 4 quarter game

If we come ready to go we should have our backups in the 4th

Agreed. I don’t take any game for granted with this team after the NIU debacle. And despite how well we are playing, I am really sensitive to the amount of talent we are missing due to injuries. Freeman is doing a good job of keeping the NIU memories front and center, but still hard to get up for every game. Army’s record and style should be sufficient motivation; and playing a talented rival in USC at the colosseum to get into the playoffs is more than enough motivation for that game; but UVA is going to require discipline and team wide focus to show up and play at the level where backups are playing in the fourth. Hope that’s the case.

 

[sjb75]

Agreed. I don’t take any game for granted with this team after the NIU debacle. And despite how well we are playing, I am really sensitive to the amount of talent we are missing due to injuries. Freeman is doing a good job of keeping the NIU memories front and center, but still hard to get up for every game. Army’s record and style should be sufficient motivation; and playing a talented rival in USC at the colosseum to get into the playoffs is more than enough motivation for that game; but UVA is going to require discipline and team wide focus to show up and play at the level where backups are playing in the fourth. Hope that’s the case.

Well stated.

 

[Granite45]

When you score 14 points and lose in South Bend against a crappy NIU team that recently lost to Buffalo, Toledo, and Ball State, please don’t make excuses.

Believe top QB has been injured and their RB Brown aslo has been injured at times. Brown scored on passing TD against KVA who was very inexperienced in this 2nd game of the year. Much different team.

 

[sjb75]

Believe top QB has been injured and their RB Brown aslo has been injured at times. Brown scored on passing TD against KVA who was very inexperienced in this 2nd game of the year. Much different team.

Gosh, that explains everything.

Thank You.

 

[Golson5]

Agreed. I don’t take any game for granted with this team after the NIU debacle. And despite how well we are playing, I am really sensitive to the amount of talent we are missing due to injuries. Freeman is doing a good job of keeping the NIU memories front and center, but still hard to get up for every game. Army’s record and style should be sufficient motivation; and playing a talented rival in USC at the colosseum to get into the playoffs is more than enough motivation for that game; but UVA is going to require discipline and team wide focus to show up and play at the level where backups are playing in the fourth. Hope that’s the case.

I took a few games for granted since NIU including FSU but not this week

 

[mbd11]

Virginia's 5-4, 3-3 in the ACC. So they're an average ACC team. But they had 2 good wins over BC and Pitt, so they're capable of playing decent football.

 

[tkirish]

At this point I am sure ND isn’t taking anyone for granted. I am also certain the coaches are keeping the players focused on UVA and nothing else. The key to this 3 game stretch is execution on offense, defense and special teams. Now is the time to put it all together and perform like the playoff team they want to be.

 

[graceh90]

Nobody was making excuses. The game should not have been close, but recognizing some factors that could come into play will help avoid similar defeats in the future. Obviously, we didn't learn our lesson from the Marshall game either. Unfortunately I was at both of those games.

I think you should volunteer to not attend home games in which ND is more than 14 point favorites for the remainder of coach Freeman’s tenure.

 

[buckey]

Virginia isn’t a “good” football team relative to the top 25 in CFB. Pitt had no business being ranked top 20, they have defeated no one that was anywhere near the top 25, and Virginia isn’t much better.

Virginia is simply an average to even below aversge CFB team, IMO, who would struggle to win any game against the very bottom of the SEC.

They’re not playing an sec team. Get some relevance.

 

[Kelso86]

Virginia is a solid team. If we don't show up it will be a 4 quarter game

If we come ready to go we should have our backups in the 4th

"Virginia is a solid team. If we don't show up it will be a 4 quarter game"

That is the key -- showing up and being ready -- and, Senior Day has historically been one of those game where you never know what will happen.

Once the emotions of Senior Day wear off, ND should be able to take care of business -- Freeman and staff appear to show they can get the guys ready.

 

[raulduke_007]

Attention? When you lose in South Bend to to MAC crappy Northern Illinois, anyone should get Notre Dame’s attention.

^^^USC troll mad his team sucks & ND is on track to make the playoffs. Find something better to do with your time sport.^^^^

 

[jerbach]

I think you should volunteer to not attend home games in which ND is more than 14 point favorites for the remainder of coach Freeman’s tenure.

I was at the FSU game and enjoyed every minute of it.

 

[HDK]

Nobody was making excuses. The game should not have been close, but recognizing some factors that could come into play will help avoid similar defeats in the future. Obviously, we didn't learn our lesson from the Marshall game either. Unfortunately I was at both of those games.

He has no interest in recognizing anything other than the fact that ND lost to lowly NIU because he's a Southern Cal fan trolling this site.

 

[BGI User 1596]

^^^USC troll mad his team sucks & ND is on track to make the playoffs. Find something better to do with your time sport.^^^^

Ouch!

 

[sjb75]

I was at the FSU game and enjoyed every minute of it.

I watched on television. I get it.